I hope there is a cheap version of this with the live material. Though the 4 disc described above makes sense
― Stevolende, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
will they include the closet mix and the regular mix, I wonder? This is looking like a must buy
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings.
SO RELEASE THEM ALL!!
― Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
I was thinking that too, but I'm wondering if the other half (or near-half) has already been released on Live 1969. Because those are (mostly? kind of?) the same tapes, right?
And anyway, if they release part of the shows on this box, and then later release a Complete Live Matrix Recordings box, knowing Velvets fans will buy both, it's win-win! For Universal!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
closet mix is so pointless
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
...except for the alternate 'Some Kinda Love", which is amazing
― sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah that's the main diff. excited for the matrix stuff! it's about time. yeah, they might just go with stuff that is not the same performances as on Live 1969.
― tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I'm p squarely in the regular mix camp, just curious how complete this'll be. I guess closet mix could be left as an enticement to backlist banana box purchasers.
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 August 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
Yeah..
There was a mono third l.p. In the sundazed box, which 'version' was it, closet or Valentin?
― Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
(which is the definition of a Velvet Underground trainspotting question)
― Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
vu & nico was 6 discs, right? this could easily be 6 discs if they decide to include the closet mix + "lost album" material. I think levenson has said that session tapes exist for the album, so there may be some cool alternates or or chatter. lou telling doug how to sing candy says, etc.
― tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
haha "sing just like me"
― sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
hmm, have only ever heard the closet mix
― Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
Really? The Valentin mix is more prevalent these days.
― Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
yeh i only heard the Valentin version recently for the first time, sounded all kinds of wrong after 20+ years of closetness
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 11 August 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
Back whenever, I bought the (expensive) Japanese issue, as it has always used the Val mix, for to hear it, finally.
Felt daft about 6 months later, when the cd edition came out with the val mix for ever..
― Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
Definitely prefer the Valentin mix but i heard that one first so that may be why. Like the Valentin some kinda love better.
― tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
I was so baffled when I heard that new Some Kinda Love on the 80's reissues, I had tracked down a french copy of the 3rd LP. I guess I prefer the Valentin mix (which is actually the original, right?), but I much prefer the closet take of SKL and feel sentimental about that mix as a whole.
― sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link
I prefer Valentin mix/"Some Kinda Love" too, but not by a huge margin. It's the one I heard first and am most familiar with.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link
Well, it seems it's going to be a 6CD set!
CD1: The Val Valentin mix (stereo)CD2: The 'closet' mix (stereo)CD3: The mono promo mix, plus the a and b-side of the singleCD4: "Sessions"
1. FOGGY NOTION 6.44 2. ONE OF THESE DAYS 3.53 3. LISA SAYS 2.55 4. I'M STICKING WITH YOU 2.26 5. OCEAN 5.12 6. I CAN'T STAND IT 3.23 7. I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT IN 6.32 8. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER 2.57 9. ROCK AND ROLL 5.15 10. RIDE INTO THE SUN 3.26 11. SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND 12. FERRYBOAT BILL 2.15 13. ANDY'S CHEST 2.52 14. CONEY ISLAND STEEPLECHASE
CD6: "Live at the Matrix Part Two"
1 SISTER RAY (36.46) 2 HEROIN (8.18) 3 WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT (8.45) 4 I’M SET FREE (4.48)5 AFTER HOURS (2.56) 6 SWEET JANE (4.20)
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
"Foggy Notion" better include that six-note dealie at the beginning.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Bill Levenson on the Steve Hoffman forums sez:
I saw your post today, and thought I'd comment.The track listing you posted is incorrect. What you posted is an old work-in-progress list of mine, which has been updated. Disc 4 has been totally reworked to feature either original 1969 mixes, or new 2014 mixes that strip away the 1980s technology of the VU/Another View albums. We spent a lot of time working on Disc 4, and we're very happy with the way it turned out!I hope this list doesn't mislead a lot of SH forum members and fans!Regards,Bill
The track listing you posted is incorrect. What you posted is an old work-in-progress list of mine, which has been updated. Disc 4 has been totally reworked to feature either original 1969 mixes, or new 2014 mixes that strip away the 1980s technology of the VU/Another View albums. We spent a lot of time working on Disc 4, and we're very happy with the way it turned out!
I hope this list doesn't mislead a lot of SH forum members and fans!
Regards,
Bill
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
Dammit, I liked the 80s mixes!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
xp
it doesn't, those bastards:
http://www.discogs.com/Velvet-Underground-VU/release/1504773
note track time of 6:58
unless that's a mistake as well
for more insane detail see:
http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-velvet-underground-iv.html
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
OMG this is the one I will pay cashes moneys for. Bring it on.
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
MATRIX RECORDINGS Y'ALL
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for those links, sleeve! Guess I'll hold on even tighter to my vinyl VU.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
so psyched for the matrix stuff. the other stuff doesn't seem tooooo exciting, though i'm sure it'll be nice (was kind of hoping for some random unreleased studio recordings). in other VU trainspotting news: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/eat-to-the-beat-tickets-13180177265Chefs Paul Kahan of Nico Osteria, Blackbird, and the Publican, and Matthias Merges of Yusho, Billy Sunday and A10 present a spectacular multi-course dinner inspired by the groundbreaking 1967 album The Velvet Underground & Nico - with special guest Velvet Underground founder John Cale.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link
i had missed this & oh wow at the matrix show comin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsB25ReZp4c
― schlump, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
yessss - here's the whole sampler: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/04/24/the-velvet-underground-the-matrix-sampler/
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
Well, the "1969" LP from the box set (hey, I managed to get one out of a box) has the Foggy intro.
So, you never know.
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
What? John Cale will make an irl appearance at VU themed events?!?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
catered
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
in chicago! someone from ILM has to go.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
Paging La Lechera.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
I can cater! Egg white light/white hot omelettes in the morning, Some Kind of Steak at night...
This makes me wanna cry tbh
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
When is the food thing? I'd freak out if I could sup with John Cale. I'm sure it's $$$$$$$$$$.
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
oct. 12 - $250would depress me too, if it was happening anywhere near me, because there's pretty much no way I could justify spending the cash.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
:(That's absurd
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
you guys seriously i know jc is probably a rich man now and he has rich ppl friends but who has $300 to blow for the VIP pass to this thing? it's depressing.
i mean can i crawl under someone's serving platter and plant myself on a cheese plate and wait to get thrown out?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
(i have never been thrown out of anywhere in my life)
Mail yourself
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
that is a great idea!! merely for amusement!
https://cdn.evbuc.com/eventlogos/64729987/guestsweb.jpg
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
get job with catering company, quit day after Cale event?
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
don't forget, greg kot and jim dero will be there too
― the power, it hit me like a fist (askance johnson), Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
For $300, Cale should be your table's personal violist throughout your meal.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
Here's the other weird thing -- the food ticket is $250. For a mere $50 more you get to hobnob DIRECTLY?! I'm gonna look for a box
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
What will the items on offer consist of>I'm waiting for the manicotti?
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
kale salad
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
Some kind of meat
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link