relistening to this now and it holds up wellit's not on this thread but i remember somebody put a great post about how janelle monae probably brought the album home all excited, queued it up to her track and there's an indelible conversation about teabagging forever prefacing her gentle ballad
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 August 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link
Lol.
On a side note, some of Young Thug's stuff is pretty technical, just not in a traditional rappity rap way.
― The Reverend, Monday, 18 August 2014 23:46 (ten years ago) link
I love rappity rap.I wish the D.O.C. hadn't gotten in that car accident :(
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link
Waka and keef aren't that similar
Keef's more of a gucci disciple
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 01:51 (ten years ago) link
well me and DJP agree on Keef that's cool
― nova, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link
of all the recent flash-in-the-pan rap cause celebres Chief Keef and Waka are by far the worst
― Οὖτις, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:22 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
co-sign too
― nova, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link
Kurt vile probably agrees with you
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link
2 chains is not being given sufficient consideration itt
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 12:22 (ten years ago) link
btw guys just because I said those two were the worst doesn't mean that they are bad in the same way
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:21 (ten years ago) link
you are bad in the same way tho ha owned
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
waka and keef are pretty similar in a lot of ways tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
but in other ways they are not?
don't worry shakes Waka can do grumpy old man east coast rap too!!! Raekwon chop on the chorus and everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3zukznO4TU
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
― nova, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
'flash in the pan'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 00:33 (ten years ago) link
waka went hard in the pan
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 00:40 (ten years ago) link
lol
― a series of sleeps (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 01:15 (ten years ago) link
ew
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 00:33 (3 hours ago) Permalink
fair enough, I just think dude's music sucks & there's other rappers who go for that vibe (GENERAL vibe mind, I'm not saying he's derivative) who do it way better
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 03:39 (ten years ago) link
I mean Waka. Keef's buzz has faded a ton yeah? again though either way just not a fan, there's a point where rappers who aren't "traditionally" good don't actually have anything else to make up for/overcome it. dudes who're supposed to get over on swag/style/vibe who have none of those things imo.
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link
When did this place get taken over by middlebrow rap fans?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link
since we started hanging out in a Big Boi solo album thread probably
― some dude, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 03:59 (ten years ago) link
lol middlebrow
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:00 (ten years ago) link
I like Waka and hate Keef. They aint the same
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
is Young Thug middlebrow? dang and I was feeling all edgy talkin' bout him with people at work
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link
wtf is highbrow rap anyways? shabazz palaces?
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:01 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well yeah wasn't saying that
Waka def. has a "swag" also it's just not something I find appealing. Keef OTOH is swagless imo
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link
Keef Otoh Swagless is the lead villain in the new Star Wars movie/dadjoke
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
another general comparison but I feel the same way about Keef as I do about Juicy J (recent, not Three 6 knowledgeable besides a couple jams I dig) in that they're supposed to have this cool style that makes up for their lack of rapping ability, but their flow/voices are terrible & they're as boring as any conscious rap stereotype, just in different ways
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link
Man if you ain't about Juicy J...gtfo
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:19 (ten years ago) link
Juicy J has one of the greatest flows ever
― some dude, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:21 (ten years ago) link
why tho
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link
his flow is the audio equivalent of thudding your head against the wall
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:23 (ten years ago) link
And what exactly could be better than that?
― longneck, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 06:45 (ten years ago) link
I just feel like people judge quote unquote ignorant rap on a curve at this point, like an overreaction to the previous underground/backpacker mentality
I mean I dig Young Thug's music tons but that's cuz he's got style for days, some of these other guys it's just OK what am I getting out of this
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 08:44 (ten years ago) link
but back to the subject Andre is def. better than Big Boi and anyone who thinks otherwise is cray, relisten to Andre's "Gangsta Shit" verse. shit even the "So Fresh, So Clean" verse where he raps 100% to the drum hits
― nova, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link
Young Thug's on the Pitchfork list, so=middlebrow, maybe? And in reply to The Reverend way above I meant his approach/image is sort of sloppy, not his technique, tho I hadn't actually thought abt it it till you mentioned it
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link
The Roots are true middle brow rap for naming an album after a Malcolm Gladwell book
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:01 (ten years ago) link
Illadelph Half-life is by far my favorite Malcolm Gladwell book
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:27 (ten years ago) link
Lmao at nova judging Juicy J w/o knowing 3-6
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:28 (ten years ago) link
"I'm just saying, Ice Cube sucks...based on Are We There Yet?... Not familiar with NWA"
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:30 (ten years ago) link
novaPosted: August 20, 2014 at 12:10:30 AM
I feel the same way about Keef as I do about Juicy J in that their voices are terrible
not sure someone who doesnt have any ears is the best to judge this
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link
i mean both of those guys have notably amazing voices and its a big part of how they operate
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link
I'm confused - would liking Chief Keef make me highbrow or lowbrow
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:21 (ten years ago) link
I think it depends on your reasons for liking him
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
As for what highbrow rap is, think Native Tongues stuff/Shabazz Palaces seems abt right
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
pfff try some immortal technique, learn something
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/cqVKrWh.jpg
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
Already know about chem trails thanks
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
tech n9ne is pretty cool, a lot more creative than most rappers today
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
a classic example of highbrow rap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTjt6bKlubQ
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link