Yeah, that piece may have been banal but it's not like the writing or the thesis is worthy of this thread.
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link
I know that piece doesn't exactly reek of in-depth musical expertise, but if prominent feminist writers want to sometimes write a column about feminist messages in music, that seems fine with me.
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
not that they need my approval, definite poor choice of words on that. Just mean that it's weird to see it show up in the worst music writing thread, right after the piece about how D'Angelo used to be capital-S sexy and then he gained weight
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm fine with it too, but not if it means disregarding entire eras of music (Rosen's Twitter feed spells it out pretty well what's wrong w/ it).
I'd rather discuss (and mock) pieces like this rather than the college paper shit that usually gets posted in this thread as of late.
(and I'll be honest, I'm not a huge fan of Marcotte, I'm still bitter about how she's handled criticism from feminist POC about various issues).
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, fair point. I'm not a huge fan of Marcotte either.
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
this jody rosen? http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/beyonce-the-woman-on-top-of-the-world/
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that's him. I don't see your point.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
unfair, but kind of funny:
Beyonce: The Woman on Top of the WorldBy JODY ROSEN
A few years ago, Beyoncé Knowles was like any other record-breaking pop star in an already crowded field. Then something changed.
Jody Rosen @jodyrosen
"But somehow, seemingly overnight, things changed." The Somehow Seemingly Overnight Theory of History.
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
This isn't funny or interesting enough to be in this thread tho, rly
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
http://www.journalismjobs.com/Job_Listing.cfm?JobID=1602421
― maura, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
that piece may have been banal but it's not like the writing or the thesis is worthy of this thread
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
simon reynolds line is disgusting, tho
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Which line is that?
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
the one about ll cool j's face looking like a nazi helmet
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
and this is a guy who said that indie bands were racist for not incorporating enough "rhythm"
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link
or wait, that's sasha frere-jones. simon reynolds said that british indie fans didn't listen to r&b or hip-hop, which is probably true. point redacted.
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
more offended by his comparing it to a penis, myself
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
Reynolds' line about the nazi helmet is in response to LL comparing himself to Hitler, no?
― Position Position, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
nazi dickhead ll cool j
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
so since it somehow went unremarked, maura's link there is a CFP for the lead editor of the music department for the largest alt-weekly newspaper in San Francisco.The job requires hiring and maintenance of a staff of up to twenty freelancers, writing the lead article for the printed paper's music section on a weekly basis, director level consultation, editing for all web-published pieces and regular writing for the proprietary website. You're expected to give up nights and weekends to attend shows.That job is NOT full-time. It's a twenty hour a week gig with hourly pay and (presumably) no benefits. In San Francisco.Even in what is likely the best case scenario, being the lead music writer/editor of SF Weekly will not pay for your rent.That's the goal for anyone working as a music writer today. That's what a high-profile job looks like.Kids: run far far away from this field unless your parents are rich.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
This person will report and write the lead music story for the SF Weekly paper every week and will assign, edit, and write posts for the paper's music blog, All Shook Down. The ideal candidate will have professional experience covering Bay Area music, a deep knowledge and voracious interest in music of all genres, and the enthusiasm and energy to develop sources and find fresh, compelling stories.
20 hrs/wk, hourly rate
lol xpost
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
i need a new job
― maura, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
me too
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
lol:
- Ability to turn out pristine, compelling copy with or without an editor
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
"Kids: run far far away from this field unless your parents are rich."
or do your own thing! start something good on your own. and work it. fuck all these crappy places. it's basically an entire industry BEGGING you to be creative and do something cool on your own.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
has this been posted? i hate to link to laweekly and their clickbait pieces. i was actually surprised to see this in the print edition, i didn't realize they bothered wasting actual ink on this stuff.
http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/05/why-la-is-more-punk-than-new-york
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
almost think this thread should be locked. it's bad mojo. the good music writing thread has cobwebs on it...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
― Position Position, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:50 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not really no
― a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
couldn't agree more with "do your own thing! start something good on your own" and yes when that works it is awesome, but it's a cluttered, noisy world out there, it's hard to get something like that off the ground MUCH LESS bringing in revenue and unfortunately nobody's bills are going away. never mind finding the time to do it. again, i agree wholeheartedly but that's just easier said than done.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
admittedly, i tend to be risk averse and have a mortgage and two little mouths to feed. doing something cool is a young person's game, i guess.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
uh it's still kinda difficult for the single childless renter, too, trust
― maura, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
everything is easier said than done. i quit a union job that gave great health care and benefits to me and my family to open a used record store at the height of a recession. it ain't easy. being young helps. all kinds of things help. having a full time job and working on something else at night is rough. don't have kids if you can help it. it's just that SO MUCH of this internet and print stuff sucks SO bad. websites, free papers, newspapers, magazines. and if you aren't gonna get paid anything (or much) anyway, just do it on your own. if you can make a living as a print or web journalist churning out crap, that's fine. everyone has to eat.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
can't remember the last time i did anything cool
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
I ate some gelato the other day, that was cool
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
most people will NEVER make a living with music writing, so why not just do stuff that interests you? or think of a cool project for you and your friends to work on. for fun?
i'm not even talking to people here. just...in general.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
de capo best new gelato 2014
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
it's just all so BAD. nobody with any brains should want to have anything to do with it. i don't care if it's huffpo or buzzfeed or the guardian or whatever. BAD!!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
I've been running Burning Ambulance since 2010. I make no money from it; there aren't even ads on the site. Granted, entire weeks can go by without a post, and our daily pageviews hover in the low hundreds, but I'm happy with it, the artists I write about are happy with it, and that's enough. Monday to Friday, I do other stuff.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Ugh, I don't want to start my own zine.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
I'm chewing a toothpick and fixing up my harley as I type. Is that cool?
― radioplay vs coldhead (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
idk are you getting paid for it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
did i mention how bad everything is?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
"Ugh, I don't want to start my own zine."
duh, i'm not talking about you slackers. people with energy. and pep.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
writing essay-length posts on ilx is probably the easiest way to reach a receptive -- or at least reactive -- readership for your views on music.
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
nothing is more discouraging than laboring away at a blog or something and having nobody read what you wrote.
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:00 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Flagged this post.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
here, NA. Cheers:
http://img4-2.myrecipes.timeinc.net/i/recipes/ck/03/03/honey-gelato-ck-434637-l.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:00 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
*throws up all over keyboard*
― famous instagram God (waterface), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
this college radio DJ writing all over a soft machine record has provided me with my ur-blog entertainment for the day.
https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10632697_10153289057817137_1283090260107719433_n.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
even an ur-comment section!