almost think this thread should be locked. it's bad mojo. the good music writing thread has cobwebs on it...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Reynolds' line about the nazi helmet is in response to LL comparing himself to Hitler, no?
― Position Position, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:50 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not really no
― a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
couldn't agree more with "do your own thing! start something good on your own" and yes when that works it is awesome, but it's a cluttered, noisy world out there, it's hard to get something like that off the ground MUCH LESS bringing in revenue and unfortunately nobody's bills are going away. never mind finding the time to do it. again, i agree wholeheartedly but that's just easier said than done.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
admittedly, i tend to be risk averse and have a mortgage and two little mouths to feed. doing something cool is a young person's game, i guess.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
uh it's still kinda difficult for the single childless renter, too, trust
― maura, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
everything is easier said than done. i quit a union job that gave great health care and benefits to me and my family to open a used record store at the height of a recession. it ain't easy. being young helps. all kinds of things help. having a full time job and working on something else at night is rough. don't have kids if you can help it. it's just that SO MUCH of this internet and print stuff sucks SO bad. websites, free papers, newspapers, magazines. and if you aren't gonna get paid anything (or much) anyway, just do it on your own. if you can make a living as a print or web journalist churning out crap, that's fine. everyone has to eat.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
can't remember the last time i did anything cool
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
I ate some gelato the other day, that was cool
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
most people will NEVER make a living with music writing, so why not just do stuff that interests you? or think of a cool project for you and your friends to work on. for fun?
i'm not even talking to people here. just...in general.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
de capo best new gelato 2014
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
it's just all so BAD. nobody with any brains should want to have anything to do with it. i don't care if it's huffpo or buzzfeed or the guardian or whatever. BAD!!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
I've been running Burning Ambulance since 2010. I make no money from it; there aren't even ads on the site. Granted, entire weeks can go by without a post, and our daily pageviews hover in the low hundreds, but I'm happy with it, the artists I write about are happy with it, and that's enough. Monday to Friday, I do other stuff.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Ugh, I don't want to start my own zine.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
I'm chewing a toothpick and fixing up my harley as I type. Is that cool?
― radioplay vs coldhead (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
idk are you getting paid for it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
did i mention how bad everything is?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
"Ugh, I don't want to start my own zine."
duh, i'm not talking about you slackers. people with energy. and pep.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
writing essay-length posts on ilx is probably the easiest way to reach a receptive -- or at least reactive -- readership for your views on music.
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
nothing is more discouraging than laboring away at a blog or something and having nobody read what you wrote.
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:00 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Flagged this post.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
here, NA. Cheers:
http://img4-2.myrecipes.timeinc.net/i/recipes/ck/03/03/honey-gelato-ck-434637-l.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:00 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
*throws up all over keyboard*
― famous instagram God (waterface), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
this college radio DJ writing all over a soft machine record has provided me with my ur-blog entertainment for the day.
https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10632697_10153289057817137_1283090260107719433_n.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
even an ur-comment section!
waterface, why don't you start a zine?
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
he's too busy working on his zing
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
i used to love reading the write-ups on record sleeves at my college radio station, scott. there too people would often add little addendums to the original texts.
― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link
Let's show the sinners that we have the stamina to keep up with this dangerous, tragic, uncertain world! Let's SPREAD CHRIST'S LOVE!!!
― Peeking at Peak Petty (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 5:49 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
class post
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
nothing is more discouraging than laboring away at a blog or something and having nobody read what you wrote
I definitely have been there though sometimes something cool happens like the time Andrew W.K. linked to one of my posts through FB and Twitter and I got like a 1000 views overnight
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
flag boast
― post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
(but really, that would be cool. congrats.)
― post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
alpine and scott otm throughout of course but there's something a bit sadistic about yelling "the old methods don't work, let us go boldly into the future" to people who just invested ten years diligently and intelligently trying to work by those old methods
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
The only reason our blog regularly got 100 views a day was because my mate wrote a listicle about the Top 10 beards in rock.
― radioplay vs coldhead (dog latin), Thursday, 28 August 2014 08:54 (nine years ago) link
"Old methods"? Who the hell spent their youth thinking writing abt music ws going to earn them money?
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 28 August 2014 09:26 (nine years ago) link
there's something a bit sadistic about yelling "the old methods don't work, let us go boldly into the future" to people who just invested ten years diligently and intelligently trying to work by those old methods
its more sadistic to tell them the old methods do work when they patently don't. scott otm, on doing your own thing but also about this thread having bad mojo. i regularly unfollow because it gets me down but every new clusterfuck draws me back. but fuck it, of course there's terrible writing out there. but better to spend time focusing on the good, or doing your own.
― you couldn't even wear a fedora if your lifes depended on it (stevie), Thursday, 28 August 2014 09:47 (nine years ago) link
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:26 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/smily1339.gif
― bozack horseman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
:,(
― maura, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
http://mkalty.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/hang-in-there-baby.jpg
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
the old ways
― j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
"the old methods" = getting an internship/freelance gig at a major publication, struggling and honing your craft while publishing wherever you can, getting a staff position at that publication.It was hardly a failsafe or a given that process could or world work but the presumption was that if you had the talent and diligence and put in the time, you could find a living wage if you were one of the hard-working and lucky ones to break through. cf to that SF job posting.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
http://culture.pagannewswirecollective.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/wicker-man-lee.jpg
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
so normally I'd agree with the "bad mojo" stuff (even if it does veer perilously close to "just get a job making 94K and bennies!") and try to limit myself to the most abhorrent, mean-spirited and/or gross of the worst.
in that spirit, this is just a blurb but somehow condenses so much into three sentences:
http://seattlish.com/post/96123357756/erm-the-weeklys-bumbershoot-preview-for-la-luz-is
― katherine, Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
It reads like he reverse-engineered the blurb from the Stooges reference
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/jazz-after-politics/
Argh, fuck this fucking guy.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Monday, 8 September 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
yeah, that was making the rounds among my jazz folks today including a few very incensed people
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
way way too stupid to bother being incensed about
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 8 September 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
"too stupid" is not something this thread is concerned about, as it has been demonstrated previously
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 8 September 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
I find this guy persistently awful. It upsets me that he's the head of a music department at what's supposed to be a progressive college.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Monday, 8 September 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Moyer pretty effectively slays one sacred cow implicated in this: not all improvised music is great. Yes, improvisation has produced some wonderful music, but it has also imposed plenty of tedium on audiences over the years.
The strawman of "everyone, everywhere, throughout recorded history has consistently stated that all improvised music is always great" aside, how is he even allowed access to a computer, much less employed by a college?
Also, all music is improvised, but that's another argument.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link