It's a cruel cruel summer: the sounds of deep tech / shuffle / cuttin shapes / upgrunt house / etc. etc. in 2014

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Oh, right - now that would definitely explain it! :)

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

Hmmm, I blame that Benny B mix above for crossing my wires! I think I've also associated the tune with Mark Radford in my mind for some reason, which is probably a bit weird. At least from a distance though, there does seem to be a bit of a bleed between London deep tech proper and other strains of bass-heavy house. Maybe this gets back to lex's question.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

like i said the easiest way to understand this music, it's developments, trajectory and "newness" is by paralleling it with how UKG grew out of american house and garage

id explain more but my right hands in a cast so its kind of long right now lol

rizla teef, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

are you trilliam by any chance?

Benny B, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

what gave it away ;)

rizla teef, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

'okay' (and ten walls if we're mentioning it) may not be deep tech per se but nor in my view is the scene (whilst still being very distinct as a whole) so formally codified and encapsulated now that those tunes are irrelevant and not part of the conversation to some extent. like yeah they're big popular tunes but there's elective affinities at play too - 'elephants' is a viable set moodpiece, 'okay' has that chunky clipped bass bubble that miko is quite right to associate with radford's sometimes broader interpretation in his shows

the idea of establishing a "true" deep tech (i still like calling it shuffle tbh btw fuiud) rubric & canon is an interesting one - like for instance 'okay' might not be but shiba's remix of mk 'always' in my opinion indisputably is - and to do so (and finally be of use to lames who can't ever be bovd to click on a mix or two) would most likely require a chronological recap of some sort

so let's do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2011 - funky peters out, hot creations crosstown rebels etc help to normalise an urban club relationship with house (police have nothing to lock off etc), jamie jones mix of azarii catches ears, audiowhore and house ents events establish themselves. mark radford and others of a techy persuasion continue to play alex niggeman martin landsky minimal type stuff, begin to gain a small foothold

2012 - while the above two strands continue alongside each other, "deep" house n bass catches on and spreads out (interzone), dusky shadow child moda etc widely popular stuff. but london develops a particular fascination of its own (arguably seceding from the garage side) with tunes such as the randomly-selected following

Kolombo and Ante Perry - Completely Positive (Walker & Royce Remix)
Alex Arnout - One (More)
Telepopmusik - Try Me Anyway (Dirty Channels Remix)
Baunz - The Same Thing (Huxley Dub) [pay attention to the switch at 3:30 as a before/after instructive audio document ]

fun club shuffling cutting shapes dance scene coalesces around this new icy fauxstere centripetal boogie. newcomers plus guys who used to make grime and bassline and funky and dubstep etc get involved and start to make their own bits to match, labels spring up and formalise, fashion becomes style etc

2013 to date - scene grows, all of the above continues intertwined but with its own selective localised focus now, an additional grimier/jungle menace minimal strand inevitably develops (Carnao Beats - Just Say Nothing), nuum mixer churns anew. "g-house" from europe begins to have an additional effect (as it does everywhere), hard straight down the line bangers with rap adding to the vox sample matrix

basically how i personally break it down to an extent, ur all cordially invited to educate me otherwise

r|t|c, Thursday, 18 September 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

what is g house

the late great, Thursday, 18 September 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

jon carter of mars

r|t|c, Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/amineedge/amine-edge-dance-halfway
https://soundcloud.com/thisiscuff/cuff009-ennio-go-insane
https://soundcloud.com/gcattin/kant-ey-yo
https://soundcloud.com/marlonhoffstadt/dansson-marlon-hoffstadt-shake
https://soundcloud.com/whartone/sonny-wharton-dazed-confused

this kinda stuff i suppose. some of it is very fun. i wish i had kept a list

the sound and its relationship with deep tech are more actually more interrelated than i'm letting on (ldn to paris connection as mentioned above, carnao and amine edge making friends and influencing ppl) but i) who cares it's called g-house and it's french and ii) it's imo worth making the hardline distinction as it continues to encroach on the original london stuff

r|t|c, Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

oh i like that stuff

the late great, Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

Yo Ilxers, let me share with you my latest mix, basically a showcase of my deep tech favourites, including some of the thread favourite vocals (Circles, Gladiator, Take Control..), fresh releases, couple of exclusives and some older bits. Took me a while to choose from more than 100 tracks..still ended up with around 40 lol
https://soundcloud.com/danielnoir/ldn-house-utopia-vol-1

MimoMcha you should follow DJ Simon Titus, he's running a few nights in Amsterdam and plays deep/tech (arguably with a more commercial overlap, you couldn't get away with playing Eastside Records and House Ent material all night at a random Amsterdam venue)...hes booked Oliver Rees, Adam Cotier or Riaz Dhanani in the last few months.

d.noir, Thursday, 18 September 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

That's great, thanks for the tip! I'll definitely look into it.

Mix looks cool too.

MikoMcha, Friday, 19 September 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87OLa1r_xTs

uk national breakfast radio 4 u

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 09:54 (nine years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/donaeo/free-download-tazer-wet-dollars-donaeo-remix

donaeo's given his rmx away for free btw

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 09:56 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njTZh0laN28

shoulda mentioned this one too for the faithless kru

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 10:08 (nine years ago) link

i finally figured out the track i asked about way upthread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsTVIxBTlks

is it g-house?

the late great, Monday, 22 September 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

hard to accurately pinpoint the timeline now but from the looks of things i would imagine s.e.f might be somewhat pissed if 'wet dollars' gets chart money

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

"wet dollars" is g-house, shuffle tech or jacking?

the late great, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

it's pretty great, i prefer the vocal samples in "m-o-e" but i like the beat of "wet dollars" better

the late great, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

it's skipper + handclaps

the late great, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link

the track that starts this thread is finally getting a release, it's on itunes for pre-order. FINALLY I'LL HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A SOUNDCLOUD RIP

lex pretend, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

sotu seem especially laggardly but generally speaking this stuff has the most thorough release infrastructure uk urban dance has had for a decade. proper labels, tons on beatport/juno etc

can't wait for that 'circles' truce dub, dunno why the gits even took the soundcloud down

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

yeah i'm still waiting for the carnao beats one to get released. and the syap nicki minaj one. (btw he's done a honey cocaine edit which is super as well!)

lex pretend, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdBNzHJTtQg

here is another top 10 eoy 2k14 shufflepop tune, superior even to 'circles', that you yes YOU can buy TODAY

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link

(k i lied, it's top 3 rly)

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

rtc I know you and I have politely butted heads on here a few times in the past, but I've got to give a big thank you for the mini history lesson and track IDs upthread. Had been hearing & loving One (More) & Go Insane in sets for a while without knowing what they were/who they were by. Hadn't heard that Huxley dub before but it's great.

There's no stopping the thetans from hopping (Mr Andy M), Monday, 22 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

SOTU has turned out to be a much more exciting label than I expected.

There's no stopping the thetans from hopping (Mr Andy M), Monday, 22 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah, thanks all for the mini history lesson!

lex pretend, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

ha i rly rly rly wouldnt take that vague history lesson as gospel (i was rather looking the other way/missing what was under my nose at the time) but i'm glad to hear it might prove to be better than nothing. still encourage all corrections plz if there are any

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

SOTU has turned out to be a much more exciting label than I expected.

― There's no stopping the thetans from hopping (Mr Andy M), Monday, 22 September 2014 21:41 Bookmark

ya def. love this new 1:

https://soundcloud.com/djtruce/zander-hardy-feat-anton-romero-let-me-show-you-truce-remix-preview

+ i'm absolutely fucking DYING for this to come out arghhh get on with it

https://soundcloud.com/soturecordings/wait-for-u

r|t|c, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

i was a bit less convinced by tim's defining it according to ilm threads

i guess there's no real geographic location to this stuff? it's all a bit "slight tweak of other things that have existed for a long time". i think i get it but i couldn't explain it?

lex pretend, Monday, 22 September 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

x-post YES Wait For U remix is a big one.

There's no stopping the thetans from hopping (Mr Andy M), Monday, 22 September 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

ah it's out i can post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_XZkvFSs0

ANTHEM

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link

i take it back, that was terrible

the late great, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 05:26 (nine years ago) link

and... there we go.

i guess there's no real geographic location to this stuff? it's all a bit "slight tweak of other things that have existed for a long time". i think i get it but i couldn't explain it?

Still think the easiest way to get it is just to listen to a DJ mix.

Tim F, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 07:15 (nine years ago) link

post invective or bite tongue... eeny, meeny...

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:16 (nine years ago) link

oh go on.

Tim F, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link

Anyway I love the rifftastic section of "From Above", so fabulously unclean sounding.

Tim F, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link

Seems relevant for this thread.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/802ff5595554035da46e2f22d4c3a482/tumblr_ncbo5qFjGz1qz9ddwo1_500.jpg

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

I share some music taste with my instructor and someone else in the class asked about it and I wasnt really sure what to say. I mentioned deep house and they looked at me in horror. I was surprised at the reaction as I didnt think they would really know what it was, then I remembered the music in this thread is called deep house and would be on his radar

saer, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

I had momentarily forgotten it was called deep house because I see this many days and subconsciously think it is called upgrunt

saer, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

he probably thought you were referring to the disclosure, duke dumont, MoS new sound deep house, deep house

this strain of house is for most intents and purposes a very insular, decidedly london thing although it is starting to reach the fringes of that world.

rizla teef, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

ha so i think ever since i'd been checking for this stuff i'd been hearing this one tune among many thinking yesss this is a vibes... comes up in a mix now so i'm like right ok finally let me shazam that fucker

and ummmm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcaqi1z-2y4

turns out completely unbeknownst to me they've been keeping p much bang on the various modern pulses these last couple of years...

r|t|c, Monday, 29 September 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/djsupad/just-wat-da-docta-ordered-supa-d-b2b-truce

vibes up a commute a treat. if u cant get to grips with + are not totally down for this stuff after the first hour i can't do nuffin 4 ya guv

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 11:15 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z-BVl4EJzI

two of the best b2b

rizla teef, Saturday, 11 October 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

love that nutty refix (after the hour mark there) of the ar remix of 'so much pressure' with the sam & the womp 'bom bom' sample

hey riz do u ever check for any of the shows on http://usdfm.co.uk/dj-schedule/ and are they any good? seems strange that only scholar tee that ever reposts them... might have a go at taping jack n danny later

r|t|c, Sunday, 12 October 2014 10:00 (nine years ago) link

looping "i'm the cat with the bass and" with that kiddy voice like that kinda bringing the 'charly' / 'sesame's treet' appy ardkore vibe :)

r|t|c, Sunday, 12 October 2014 10:12 (nine years ago) link

kinda amazing that no one's really tried to slip a seemingly innocuous ditty about balloons past the chart censors

r|t|c, Sunday, 12 October 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link

Anyway I love the rifftastic section of "From Above", so fabulously unclean sounding.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 14:04 Bookmark

it doesnt have the sly wink infantilism of a 'charly' or anything but the clean plaintive innocence of the rest of 'from above' among its own and surrounding dark filth is really what makes the track imo... like if the sample was the old leviticus burial "first you say yeah, then you say no..." rather than just a bit of supremes people would probably grok it immediately

r|t|c, Sunday, 12 October 2014 10:30 (nine years ago) link

"people" largely meaning "those unnamed of a certain advanced age lying face down in a puddle of their own stale n fetid sensibility" obv

https://soundcloud.com/louieandersonmusic/louie-anderson-who-want-it-original-mix-forthcoming-on-shadow-music

ooh talking of which! lex needs this banger in his life if it isnt already!! (kinda hate myself for having allowed the construction of a reality where i can't have this as my ringtone :/)

r|t|c, Sunday, 12 October 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link


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