really only care about the Matrix shows, altho I don't fully understand what's different/new from what's on the Live 1969 discs.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Is this just poorly worded, because they make it sound like there's two Valentin mixes:
Disc One of this collection contains the album stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a veteran of sessions for Ella Fitzgerald and Stan Getz, recorded at T.T.G. Studios in Hollywood, while the band was staying at the Chateau Marmont. The second disc features what Sterling Morrison dubbed “The Closet Mix,” which Reed described as a way to “get directly to somebody, unfiltered… So, if you listen to the record, it’s like sitting across from you.” This was the original version on the 1969 pressings of the album, later replaced by yet another Val Valentin stereo mix.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
new 2014 mix
uh oh
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
^^Kanye verses added, no doubt!
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
think the 2014 mixes are replacing 1985 mixes
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, they're de-'80sd or something.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
he aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule;
ummmm
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
oh OK that might be a good thing xxp
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
xp durrrrr
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
see also Edward IIIs eloquent defense of the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix, he wrote abt it in the artist poll
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
_he aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule;_ummmm
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, Doug Yule's ex-gf Shelly.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix
? where would one hear this
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link
xp ha yeah, i think it's supposed to be shelly, but doug definitely does not sing that one.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
Inspired by sterling morrisons electroshock therapy
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link
Drummer Moe Tucker's testosterone-fueled beats
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
John Cale's well-documented struggle with pica informed much of the initial recordings
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
man my jokes always suck and yet i keep making themnever give up!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
I irl lol'd at pica
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:53 PM
http://www.discogs.com/Velvet-Underground-Etc/master/660580
used to be available via the "nuns on the seawall" blog
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
B-b-but does Doug sing the "Hitchhike" intro?
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link
BUT YOU GUYS THE MATRIX RECORDINGS WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU NIGGLING ABOUT THE PROMO BUMF FOR
― hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
how come the only source I can google on this is a Norwegian press-release-regurgitation site? Nobody else picked it up after a week?!
(and how on ye olde green earth did you ever find it, Tyler?)
― hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link
Starting to think some college kid put that "Hitchhike" thing at the top of a syndicated Voice Media Group listicle called "Top 5 Things To Know About The Velvet Underground Before You Die."
Not surprised at tyler being hip to anything VU related very early in the game. Like if some Freeport demolition team turned up Lou's lost bar mitzvah photos, I'd assume tyler and his blog would have the scoop.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link
(that "Lead vocal by Doug Yule" thing looks like the sentence was about "Candy Says" but the "Pale Blue Eyes" bit got dropped in, badly)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 06:48 (nine years ago) link
if some Freeport demolition team turned up Lou's lost bar mitzvah photos
That's weird, I was thinking about Lou's bar mitzvah yesterday (which is weird in itself).
― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:22 (nine years ago) link
ha, i just saw it over on those wacky steve hoffman forums. i dunno, the more i think about it, the more i'm kind of annoyed that the matrix tapes are being bundled up with this deluxe edition -- they should just be doing a "complete" release of all of those recordings. (there are a few interesting things missing in the tracklisting)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
also sort of bummed there isn't like "take 1" of what goes on or other things like that.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
oh don't worry, they'll roll them out as a separate set w/bonus tracks in a few years xp
― sleeve, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
lol yeah
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link
It would be nice if "I'm gonna move right in" was a vocal version, but I guess it's still going to be 6 mins of, well, no vocal.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
I did check yesterday, the mono LP version from the box is the closet mix.
Still sounds good though.
a version of “There She Goes Again,” interpolating the opening guitar quote from Marvin Gaye’s 1962 hit, “Hitch Hike.”just like every version of this song! it's weird that that little bit of trivia is repeated everywhere.― tylerw, Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tylerw, Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's just as likely that they nicked it from the rolling stones cover, no?
also jesus christ these stupid fucking deluxxxe box sets woven of unicorn hair costing a week's wages. shit makes me want to download illegally.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkU3yg4lK0
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
the "velvet underground 75th anniversary holographic box set" features a 372-minute live version of "sister ray," spread across seven CDs. the fourth CD is the intermission.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
would buy
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
can you really call the 4th album unreleased when everything on it has been officially issued already in some form or another
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
don`t forget those hot 2014 mixes bro
― Brio2, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
what goes on (and on til the break of dawn)
― Brio2, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
a 372-minute live version of "sister ray,"funny you should mention it -- just saw thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63xKbG_9aok
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
amazing
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
going to listen to it all. twice. stereogum is milking the clickbait: "Unreleased Velvet Underground album to be included in new box set"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
that youtube should just be the opening string chords repeated over and over
it'd be like vexations
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
Sterling Morrison once claimed there was a literal "lost 4th album" that they cut in LA in late '69, of which the tapes were lost in route when shipped to MGM in NYC. Salt grains needed.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
most album-losingest band ever. i bet you'd go over to lou's place and there'd be like 4 lost albums down the back of his couch.
― Brio2, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
lol, yeah, who knows but that mention from sterling is the only thing i've ever heard about that west coast record -- i think there's the possibility that things like "countess from hong kong" and the demo of "i found a reason" were recorded around the time he's talking about. but i don't know, he liked telling people about amazing things they would never hear (see "sweet rock n roll" and "what goes on" live w/ Cale)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
but i can't help it, seeing "UNRELEASED VELVET UNDERGROUND ALBUM TO BE RELEASED" headlines today is irritating me.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link
I wanna talk to that Lou Reed, man, he threw a lost acetate at his roadie.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
(Xp) In the spirit of "What else can be left?" in the case of another artist, I always wanted to call a band Unreleased Hendrix.
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link
every time lou reed got drunk he lost another VU album
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link