^^^exactly!!
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
that song is like A+ example of what im talking about. i dont think hes just BSing lyrics, i suspect something else is going on
thats the same song where he says "supere" to rhyme with "ideal" and it is really, really weird
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i like the corny lyrics he drops too:
Let's take a rocket ship to MarsAnd anchor off the satellite for lonely heartsSuch a special placeIn outer space
the corniest! i have to imagine that the song is written from a kid's perspective or something, i have no idea.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
oh i should also say im def only talking about the lyrics on ferment and chrome
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
i saw this interview with him once where someone asked what kept him going and he said "at risk of sounding american, its fear"
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
superboy:
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyou up there on the screenI'd be your future boymy big eyed bird in the moviesI'd be your future boybecause if that is what you needa cinematic boy like mewho'll come along and set you freedon't fear, superboy is hereand it feels good to me
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahas the wisdom runsa boy should know his limitationsbut I've talked myself through lesscan I be your future pestbecause if that is what you needa sycophantic boy like mewho'll tell you things you really don't needoh joy, I'm your boyand it feels good to medon't fear, superboy is hereit feels good to me
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
yes, they were great live
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
yeah but thats from adam and eve when the lyrics became less vague and less of a tool or whateverlike however hilarious those lyrics are, and they are, i do think hes trying to sing about a thing
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
i get what you're saying. yeah i mean chrome is one of my favorite early '90s albums and i will sing every lyric but i'm not sure i know what any single line really means but they sound great and "i get" what he's doing in the moment, even if i don't really get it.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
from a p recent interview w rob
"I’m ashamed to say this was an interesting example of what happens when you come up with a melody line that can only be sung with certain words (because of how the words are constructed and how they affect the tone). As you can probably tell, the above lyrics do little to strengthen the focus of what the song is obviously about and are there purely as a supporting melodic device."“Flower To Hide was another song where the lyric was very much dictated by the initial vocal gibberish that come up when coming up with the melody lines. It’s funny when this happens in songs because you feel almost guilty about not constructing a 'focused lyric' that nails in a witty, metaphorical, ironic way a particular slice of life. Songs often are born as an apparent compromise of melody and lyrical straightforwardness. This of course can yield some fantastic results. Flower To Hide is about something but I dare not say what because it might jinx it."
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link
so "born from gibberish" seems otm
Chrome is definitely still the album of theirs for me. It's like they built up, got the fluke American breakthrough and then doubled down.
*checks upthread* Man I was talking about Rob's Porsche fascination ten years ago, who knew.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
do you like anything after?
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
not after porsche obsession but after chrome? lol
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Chrome is the only one of the first four that I don't really get :/
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
I mean, Happy Days is half rubbish, half great, but Chrome escapes me somehow - not rubbish, but not really for me. Maybe I should give it a listen
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
thats because its as american as a pizza without figs
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
surely Happy Days and A&E are even more US alt-rock
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
There's life after Porsche obsession? Never! (My dad had a 911.)
The first four are all good in separate ways. Wishville kinda falls away.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
i clearly need to revisit A&E and happy days
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
i was jk imago. obv its def less american sounding than happy days but its still p damn american alt rock sounding
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
I'll relisten.
Happy Days...I reckon there's a brilliant 8-or-9-track album in there
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
ferment is my fave tho, the farther they get from that the less im into it
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
embarrassing but true story:
i first heard of catherine wheel on Q101, which was sort of the KROQ equivalent in chicago, and for awhile at least it was the best station i'd ever heard. they were playing the most amazing '80s alt-rock and college rock and new (at the time) music from the the and sugar and other acts like that. they were advertising some rock festival and talked about CATHERINE WHEEL and i was thinking, hmm well i do like that name i think i'll go buy her CD without even reading up on it.
lots of revelations after that, good ones mostly.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
When you bumped the other CW thread I listened to "the nude", and then again, and again, totally got stuck
― cure for peen (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
WaydownHealEmpty HeadEat My DustShockingKill My Soul
^would be my preferred edit, maybe rearranged so like
ShockingWaydownEat My DustEmpty HeadHealKill My Soul
great mini-album right there
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
it sounds like he is singing 'corncrake' during the chorus of crank. i wish he was
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
ohhh 'broken head' yeah i love this one, always have. that chorus! wish the whole album brought it like this but it's been fun so far
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
would boldly state that on 'adam and eve', more or less every track has a melodic hook more or less up there with this one
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
I met Rob once, top bloke, very down to earth.
There's an acoustic EP that includes "The Nude". Stunning.
They were an excellent and prolific B- sides band.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
ok "corncrake" just made me actual lol
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
"Corncrake"? The Wicker Man?
― The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link
"call me crank"
what
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:37 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think about this post whenever i listen to "Crank"
― nomar, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link
mmmm corncrake
― a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:56 (seven years ago) link
:D
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link
i posted in the thread almost 12 years ago? it has been a wild ride and maybe i need to move on too?
have not thought about Catherine Wheel in a very long time. i think i saw them four time total. they were great live.
― To Live and Die In L.A. (Bee OK), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 03:53 (seven years ago) link
It's interesting how pretty much all the original shoegaze crew as such has hit the reunion phase but this bunch didn't. (Other non-returnees off the top of my head: Boo Radleys, Pale Saints.) And yes granted CW weren't exactly shoegaze but they were of that generation, had a greater amount of success over here at the time compared to a lot of them, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link
Ferment is getting a vinyl reissue at the end of June. hope Chrome follows suit quickly thereafter...
― nomar, Friday, 26 May 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link
My favorite Catherine wheel is the one-two punch of "strange fruit" and "chrome"
― brimstead, Friday, 26 May 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
and then "the nude" so it's really like three punches
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 26 May 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link
re: the first punch, no song has ever punched me more
― geoffreyess, Friday, 26 May 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link
and now CHROME is getting a proper reissue via Music on Vinyl in September!
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link
So…something’s uphttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10160083830801136&id=545041135&_rdr#!/story.php
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 July 2022 05:38 (two years ago) link
There's never been expanded reissues, and lord knows there's material aplenty...
New material would be welcome, of course, if a bit trepidatious about the potential.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 29 July 2022 14:27 (two years ago) link
Seems like it was just announcement of Adam and Eve streaming (hadn't realize it hadn't been?)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 July 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link
Well, specific dates in this one.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqYs7e6NzIf/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
What does this mean? Is there new stuff or is this for reissues? I would like to see them live again as it was always great. I think I saw them around seven times.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link
Guess we'll find out! After last year's tease that wasn't much, I'm suspicious, but the fact that there are two dates mentioned is intriguing.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link
probably the only band I'd spend all my money and fly anywhere to see
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link