I did like that one one-off of his that da croupier had a screen name after- Zwan.
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
Loved and still love both. Ranged Life's ~shots fired~ lyrics were traumatic at the time. For a minute or so, but still. Corgan quite literally grew up to be an insufferable dumbass, Malkmus became the awkward, quiet uncle who drinks a bit too much and you feel kind of sorry for at family reunions. Both shot to fame only to completely bomb after that. Corgan went all out berserk religion and wrestling style, Malkmus resigned to some "ok" noodling on his guitar being nothing better than a very poor man's Ted Leo-imitation.
Corgan sunk deeper, but at least he jumped the shark grotesquely and in an enjoyable/insufferable way. Malkmus just seems to try to disappear more and more, trying to be "witty" in the process, releasing mediocre albums every three years.
Voting Corgan. He tanked it but he tanked it good.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
otm
― bun b bag (crüt), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
"Range Life" *shots fired* wasn't The Statement critics said it was. Flash guy, meet fellow flash guy. Plus, writers will die for a witty stanza.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
i.e. false binary
as opposed to the very substantial binaries you've been filling this thread with
― some dude, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link
What was it then? Teenage me heard Malkmus flaming Corgan. Difficult to hear it otherwise tbh
Xp
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjolEUj00g
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
― some dude,
ugly vs not ugly guitarist -- what else counts?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link
This thread inspired me to listen to Wig Out at Jagbags and, like with every Malkmus solo album, I find myself thinking "Hey, this isn't as bad as I was expecting" knowing full well I'll never play it again.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wymViayJyG4
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
Otm. Malkmus became so dreadfully "ok" yet utterly, completely boring it is just as much insufferable as Corgan's all out madness. Xp
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
i've got a bald head / my name is yul brynner / and i am a famous movie star
― syro gyra (get bent), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
would rather hear Corgan sing "Embassy Row" these days
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
picturing corgan singing "fight this generation"
― syro gyra (get bent), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link
Hey people, sisters and brothers, brothers and sisters, come on now. That means everybody just cool out.
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
the Range Life lyric is pretty mild, but then again he does lump the pumpkins in with stone temple pilots, which really is a shot in the back. either way, it had real consequences because Corgan forced Pavement off of Lollapalooza in 1994 by threatening not to play, after they had replaced Nirvana as the headliners.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link
Malkmus was always so mean to Spiral Stairs.
malkmus was not at all mean to spiral stairs during the reunion shows, but i felt kinda bad because the former was basically a rock god and the latter basically looked like paul simon
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link
run them both through a wood chipper and use them as chum.
voted Corgan.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link
Spiral Stairs basically sucks
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link
I just want to remind everyone that this happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3tV8n-CVnA#t=22263
― Pono For Pyros (zero of the signified), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link
...and then again, this also happened:
https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10537192_10102666232156215_742803194163461979_o.jpg
― Pono For Pyros (zero of the signified), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link
what -- those jeans?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link
Can't see the image, is he wearing Bob Weir Daisy Duke jorts?
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link
malkmus but i'm having a hard time coming up with strong feelings about this. i guess my main argument would be that most of the stuff corgan has done is completely embarassing but i'll always have time for cherub rock and rhinoceros.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link
is Weir Daisy Duke Jorts the follow-up to Wigwam Jagoff At Jackie Jormp-Jomp's?
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link
smashing pumpkins are that rare band where I really can't understand why anyone likes their music at all, it's just so horrible
there isn't a band on the planet I wouldn't vote for ahead of smashing pumpkins
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
Afraid I'm not familiar with that particular opus.(Xp)
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
tbh i think it's kind of cool when someone with a piercingly unpleasant voice, ridiculous pretensions and a toxic personality muscles their way to multi-million sales with a good ear for hooks. Malkmus got pretty much exactly where he was likely to land with his influences and skill set, Corgan's ascent was so unlikely as to be almost illogical.
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
Take both these guys over Grohl's nice guy ubiquituous torchbearer of rock bullshit
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
^this actually
― Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
is grohl a secret asshole? hadn't heard
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link
well obviously. courntey love's "He’s just a sub-mediocre kind of guy who does this ‘nice guy’ nonsense” is just searing, but otm.
― rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link
xp
― rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link
malkmus was not at all mean to spiral stairs during the reunion shows, but i felt kinda bad because the former was basically a rock god and the latter basically looked like paul simon.
Man, imagine being the Garfunkel, but looking like the Simon.
― pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link
I was always on SS' side until I finally heard the full version of Nothing Ever Happens.
I mean, more like Wounded Cat, amirite?
― pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
kannberg looked completely miserable by the end of the pavement reunion show i saw but oh well
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
Corgan. Pavement are/were fucking wank.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link
I just feel it's easier to tell Malkmus to shut up.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link
There is something really nasty and insecure about Corgan's extroverts ways and I can't stand that, despite the fact that I've always enjoyed his desire to create a broad landscape as music and many other ideas behind the Smashing Pumpkins. So yeah sure Pavement didn't shoot for the moon the same way, but they hit the right notes with me.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:41 (Yesterday) Permalink
thought at the reunion show I caught malkmus played half-heartedly whenever a SS number was up
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
these reunion shows sound pretty much like exactly the ones I saw in the 90s.
― pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
Well, minus the
http://i.imgur.com/3lZIgTF.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link
feel uncomfortable even having to cast a vote for one of these straight white male pieces of human trash, but malkmus
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link
well obviously. courntey love's "He’s just a sub-mediocre kind of guy who does this ‘nice guy’ nonsense” is just searing
I'm far more pro-Courtney than most but I wouldn't take her opinions on people in Kurt's inner circle as gospel. I think people are just loath to admit that people who are famous at least partially for being "nice" might genuinely be nice because they don't like their output.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link
i think we can all agree that kurt would've hated the foo fighters (as they were after he wasn't, at least)
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 05:46 (nine years ago) link
A few of Grohl's ideas about rock purism are dumb as shit, but I have a friend who knows him and I believe her when she says he's genuinely nice and a pretty dope friend.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link
always thought he was a good guy, never dug his music and sort of resent him for being as popular as he is, but hey. great guy
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 05:58 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nme.com/news/courtney-love/80347
i believe every word
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 06:00 (nine years ago) link
paul simon is cute!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, agreed on the second option. Jonathan Melvoin rip :-/
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 31 October 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Shit I forgot Tommy Lee.
Who is your favorite member of the Smashing Pumpkins?
― Moka, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link