i think there's even a song on one of the new SP albums coming out soon called "Nadir"
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
ok I'm not watching this but fuck the Foo Fighters for real now
http://youtu.be/Fv5ekzTubwU
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
oh man we should a Foo Fighters vs. Nirvana poll :D
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
I think it's SM who might be the insufferable drinking partner. It seems like a shallow reading to declare him a detached, terminally ironic superficial hipster type, but I've never seen any evidence to the contrary. I watched this interview with Ian Svenonious (think it's on youtube) that was just UGH.
Billy seems like kinda like a bro??
― rip van wanko, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=624HfkMty_8
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
who plays better lead guitar – Macca, Corg, or Malk?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WleSh2SY304
i rest my case
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
that actually shows his virtuosity as a rhythm player - this is more lead-heavy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byzeyLkvn9E
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
this one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzBVvD1vUvM
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
much prefer malkmus's music as a whole, though he never had a '1979' moment, where the entire ethos is distilled into a single song of immense power ('gold soundz' probably closest but still so far)
don't care what either of them are like off-record
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR9aRK2HdNc
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
the "Malkmus isn't trying" canard is so received-wisdom. what is he not trying to do, or trying not to do? which bands are unlazily doing the thing that he's doing lazily? there's a sprawl to what he does but the idea that this reflects "not trying" is very "I heard somebody say 'slacker' about this music once."
A fundamental part of Pavement's aesthetic, at least on the first couple of albums, seems to be that they were playing pop/rock music but were deliberately not trying to be tight or polished in their musical execution. (The Pumpkins mostly certainly were trying to sound like a polished, super-layered arena rock machine.) They came up with a distinctive sound by doing so but it doesn't seem like too much of a leap to say that they were 'not trying' in this way.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
yeah, otm
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
― rip van wanko
There's a thread somewhere about things Billy Corgan said to a member of some other band at a bar... Stone Temple Pilots or Soundgarden - don't remember - and he sounds like the worst drinking partner.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
the core. the heart music. echo & the bunnymen.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
things Billy Corgan said to Kim Thayil in Australia in 1994 poll
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
seems to be that they were playing pop/rock music but were deliberately not trying to be tight or polished in their musical execution
you think it's easy but you're wrong
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
Malkmus' process is refined, but the results are not on purpose
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq4JGSxMzms
i hope you don't have to be branford marsalis to grasp how this could be seen as "not trying"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
or rather, "sure could try harder"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
selling luxury homes now. shameful.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/pavement%20driveway%20for%20your%20luxury%20home.png
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
corgan would never
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
*devil eyes*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvrvVGh2hY
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
I don't want to be anywhere near billy Corgan and alcohol.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
would you close your door when you play that please xp
― rip van wanko, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
recent pro-corgi posts in this thread making me wish i had never been a sp fan
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
paws cover makes me believe though
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
I LIE JUST TO BE REALAND I'D DIE JUST TO FEELWHY DO THE SAME OLD THINGS KEEP ON HAPPENING?BEYOND MY HOPES, THERE ARE NO FEELINGS THERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFVRYbtQ_A
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
"Stop Breathin" is Malkmus' masterpiece imo. incredible song
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link
lyrics of "tales of scorched earth" make a real case for malkmus
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
"scorched earth" is an apt description for Corgan's vocals
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
I'd maybe go for "Wicked Wanda" as the finest Malkmus.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
some real Brazilian nuts in Malkmus' lyrics
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
I never got into Pavement until after they broke up but I did see them live twice and was shocked that they weren't awful because everyone always said they were uncaring slackers who couldn't actually play anything. I loved Smashing Pumpkins when they were around but never saw them live which is kind of a major regret.
Nowadays I'll listen to any Pavement record or b-side or lost track but as far as I'm concerned there are only 2 Smashing Pumpkins records (three if you count Pieces Iscariot).
― joygoat, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
U Beefin My Grimes?
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
murder burnout hipsters! unite! come align for the big fight . . . to rock . . . for you! beware!
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link
can't find the the video in which Corgan uses the first verse of Bullets for a mixed martial arts intro.― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It was pro wrestling:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryYcyt8FPlg
― JRN, Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:28 (nine years ago) link
lmao
― some dude, Thursday, 16 October 2014 03:40 (nine years ago) link
another signature Corgan song - distills a lot of his essence in three minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkgML3AJZ28
I fear that I am ordinary, just like everyoneTo lie here and die among the sorrowsAdrift among the daysFor everything I ever saidAnd everything I've ever done is gone and deadAs all things must surely have to endAnd great loves will one day have to partI know that I am meant for this world
My life has been extraordinaryBlessed and cursed and wonTime heals but I'm forever brokenBy and by the way...Have you ever heard the wordsI'm singing in these songs?It's for the girl I've loved all alongCan a taste of love be so wrong?As all things must surely have to endAnd great loves will one day have to partI know that I am meant for this world
And in my mind as I was floatingFar above the cloudsSome children laughed I'd fall for certainFor thinking that I'd live Forever
But I knew exactly where I wasAnd I knew the meaning of it allAnd I knew the distance to the sunAnd I knew the echo that is loveAnd I knew the secrets in your spiresAnd I knew the emptiness of youthAnd I knew the solitude of heartsAnd I knew the murmurs of the soul
And the world is drawn into your handsAnd the world is etched upon your heartAnd the world so hard to understandIs the world your can't live without
And I knew the silence of the world
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c-5LXYRj87U/UzERyao4xgI/AAAAAAAAA5w/g-hygRVTdq0/s1600/malk2.gif
― pplains, Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
xxxp oh yes!! thanks!!
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
Malkmus shrug at high school poetry class nonsense = otm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link
Muzzle remains one of the best songs he's ever written imho.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link
he's making fun of his nonsense in that song, while having this weight- the feeling is close to "well, everything's gonna be alright in the end, ashes to ashes, dust to dust"
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link
he's making fun of his nonsense in that song
so he's shit at making jokes too then eh
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
You can't really scream to Pavement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev0rTCGQ8pY
― jmm, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
lol there are a bunch of Pavement songs with screaming in them
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Unfair, Conduit for Sale etc.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
yeah but it's ironic falsetto screaming, not the core/heart scream
― rip van wanko, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link