McCartney has always been a reflective and nostalgic guy, it seems... whether it's getting nostalgic about Penny Lane during The Beatles, or getting nostalgic about The Beatles and even his life before The Beatles at numerous points during Wings and his solo career. But the reflection has overtaken the wacky on his later solo records, and it suits him. You can't sing about putting the fucking butter in the pie forever.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
right there
that's it
yes
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
Oklahoma was never like this!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBDcb7kq_g
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
I've got all the Beatles albums on shuffle play now, including Thrillington stuff, The Fireman etc. 'Sing The Changes' has just come on and the backing vocals sound like late '80s U2.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
I think song wrote and recorded a song a day on that last Fireman album.
― DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
and by song I mean Paul lol
I don't even see it as a Fireman album, really. It has more in common with his "proper" solo albums than anything done under the Fireman name before that.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
having slogged through McCartney, Ram, Band on the Run, Redrose Speedway, Venus and Mars and Speed of Sound yesterday Macca's tossed off semi-nonsensical approach to lyrics *really* begins to grate in large quantities. There are things I love on all those albums but his dedication to vapidity is some kind of force of nature.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:16 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is interesting, I have no idea what I'd think about Paul if I'd gotten to know his records like this tbh! Very much benefits from having only one CD bought every couple weeks, welp, gotta toss it on again while I play some more Civilization and get to know the ins and outs of "Mamunia." I do wish the lyrics weren't so tossed-off on the best compositions ("My Love" is just such a fucking wasted opportunity, every time). But the goofiness is part of the appeal of the deep cuts.
I think Paul could have improved "Imagine" quite a lot, not on bass but on piano. Heard it at the store for the first time in a while the other night and was shocked to notice just how roly-poly and "demo loop" the main riff sounded like. Get another idea! Also, just having it be more of a "group" song might really help undercut the JOHN LENNON IS HEAR TO SPEAK SIMPLE TRUTHS aspect of it - some backup vocals, some strumming, a solo from George, some energy in the drumming, and you've got something between Hey Jude and Revolution 1, something a little huskier ... rather than this preachy precious shithead inviting you to Imagine!.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link
tbf I had heard/purchased all those albums individually, was just on a binge yesterday and that struck me. I think my intro to Macca's solo catalog was initial childhood awareness of the Wings hits ("Band on the Run", "Listen to What the Man Said", "Live and Let Die" etc.) and then I never bothered with any albums proper until I borrowed Ram from someone and fell in love with it. Acquired the others in short order.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
Ah, dig! That makes sense. I remember having a VERY carefully curated "recommended listening order" for friends interested in McCartney when I was a teen. You really had to work your way up to Red Rose Speedway and Back to the Egg, and I think I basically didn't mention Speed of Sound which I played all the time for "Wino Junko" and "She's My Baby" mainly.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
Back To The Egg is the most underrated Wings album of them all, and I can never quite understand why it doesn't get more love.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
the songs suck
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
"Arrow Through Me" excepted.
waited years for crate digging hip hop star to sample it until Erykah Badu came along
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
is Red Rose Speedway not well regarded? it was probably my favourite Wings album
― soref, Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
BTTE doesn't have good hits anchoring the usual round of pantomime genre exercises, so even if it rocks a little harder than London Town and there are a few beautiful melodies ("Love Awake," "Arrow Through Me," "Baby's Request") the rockers feel like unearned attempts at climaxes, or just desperate stabs at whipping up energy. I say all this as a fan, and someone who does enjoy the record. It's just kinda thin, especially if you don't count "The Broadcast," "We're Open Tonight," and "Reception" as even really being songs. Anyway, it'd never be my first pick for "branching out beyond Ram? Well, have I got an album for you!"
Not sure what the c.w. on Red Rose Speedway is at this point.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
xxxpost:
and 'Getting Closer', 'Again and Again and Again', 'Old Siam, Sir' and the whole of side two.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Oh, I'd totally recommend it after Ram, Band on The Run and Venus and Mars. Such a fun record.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
I have never heard that one - kinda skeptical
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
Bottom-tier Wings: Wild Life, Wings At The Speed Of SoundMiddle-tier Wings: Red Rose Speedway, London TownTop-tier Wings: Band On The Run, Venus and Mars, Back To The Egg
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
And as if by magic, 'Old Siam, Sir' comes on shuffle play. Time to rawk!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Always been curious whether the lesser Wings singles like "Arrow Through Me," "Letting Go," "Sally G," etc got genuine radio play
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
consistently baffled by people's affection for Back To The Egg.
― piscesx, Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
"Sally G" is great, haven't thought about that one in a while. "I never thought to ask her what the letter G stood for / but I know for sure it wasn't Good."
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
At least one thing Back to the Egg has going for it is being better-recorded than the last couple of records before it - shaking off some cobwebs there.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
London Town has its highlights: 'Cafe On The Left Bank' (which would have fit snugly onto Back To The Egg, come to think of it), 'Girlfriend', 'With A Little Luck'. Fond of 'Backwards Traveller/Cuff Link' too. However, London Town's highlights show up the rest of the album to be not particularly that great. Remove 'With A Little Luck' from side two and what do you have left?
Back To The Egg on the other hand is consistently good to very good throughout, and is very much a start-to-finish, complete album experience (rather than a "individual tracks in isolation" deal).
― Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 23 October 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
I really love that very rare field recording of a horny panda skullfucking George Harrison's corpse spliced with a demented McCartney screaming in agony about his tax bill as he sheared off his own bollocks with a sthil-saw, it never quite garnered the rave reviews it deserved but it is a very important part of the post-Beatles albums canon.
― xelab, Friday, 24 October 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link
otherwise known as "My Love"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 October 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link
that's the one!
― xelab, Friday, 24 October 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
I gotta rep for Back To The Egg as well. It just sounds much more crisp and lively than London Town or Speed of Sound plus has much better songs- Getting Closer, Arrow Through Me, Old Siam, So Glad To See You, To You. And Daytime Nighttime Suffering as a bonus track which is a top ten solo Paul song.
Of course it has it's share of filler but so does every Paul record...
― ColinO, Friday, 24 October 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
McCartney II is his best solo album by far! Totally brilliant.
― Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
Remove 'With A Little Luck' from side two and what do you have left?
uh MORSE MOOSE AND THE GREY GOOSE you philistine duh
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
also "name and address" is fun
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 24 October 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
Oh fucking hell, I forgot how batshit 'Morse Moose and The Grey Goose' is! Great intro, then disco groove, then he shoehorns a sea shanty in the middle. Yeah, I'll agree, this is another highlight.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Friday, 24 October 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
I really dig on The Alternate London Town and don't find much else in the solo-Beatles catalog to admire.
Save Nilsson.
― bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 24 October 2014 05:20 (nine years ago) link
LOL @ xelab
I haven't heard any McCartney besides I, II and Ram. Got "All the Best" when I was a kid just off my discovering the Beatles kick and it was a massive letdown and I've been weary since then.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 October 2014 05:35 (nine years ago) link
weird there's not been a proper Paul 'Best Of..' in 30 years. unless one counts Wingspan i suppose.
― piscesx, Friday, 24 October 2014 06:00 (nine years ago) link
McCartney has said the mid/late 70s were one of the happiest times of his life. He could get the train up to London, walk from Charing Cross to his record company's offices in Soho, entirely unmolested. The John was shot, and his life was turned on its head again.
― mahb, Friday, 24 October 2014 08:56 (nine years ago) link
the john always had a sweeter end of the deal
― conrad, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:54 (nine years ago) link
All the Best is splendid car fare.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 October 2014 11:01 (nine years ago) link
Ha, All the Best was my McCartney gateway drug! But I was young and well before my Beatles discovery period.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 24 October 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link
listened to Lennon's "Rock and Roll" last night - what a weird album. It's not bad exactly, but it's funny he would do the exact thing he seemed to resent Paul for even suggesting just a few years earlier. In a funny way it does bear some similarity to the 50s-obsessed wing of glam (Gary Glitter etc.) altho without the camp or the muscle. Oddly nothing really rocks all that hard. I can't help but think Spector would've given it more power had he gotten the final say over it, but John seemed to increasingly favor limp, sort of washed out sonics as the decade wore on, like he didn't really appreciate the low end of a solid rhythm section.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
tbf it's entirely likely Lennon wouldn't have made this album at all if it wasn't for the lawsuit
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
one weird thing i remember reading about that album is that spector is the one who suggested he cover "just because" -- which john, a lifelong elvis fan, had never heard. i definitely feel like most of the energy goes out of his solo work post-71, but part of that might be down to poor production -- i used to have the lennon anthology and i remember there was some good stuff on that.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 24 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
The sessions tapes are a treat though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmI-MdAxs0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSO8Z-qrPtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pVnXgiG0bk
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Friday, 24 October 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
lol "remember the solo, that's the bit where I don't talk"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
spector is the one who suggested he cover "just because" -- which john, a lifelong elvis fan, had never heard
Wait, I'm confused, what is this story? The "Just Because" on Rock and Roll is the Lloyd Price song, not the Elvis/Stanley Brothers/Frankie Yankovic etc.one, and there's no way Lennon had never heard Lloyd Price. Or did Elvis ever cover the Lloyd Price song?
― Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Friday, 24 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
"What're they gonna do, play jazz with Jethro Tull?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 24 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
"I'm gonna be a 90 year old guru"
:(
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 October 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link