Does anyone know roughly what percentage of recorded music is on spotify? Like, how many albums have ever been released, and how many are on Spotify?
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link
I went through a list of 1000 albums released in 1971 and around 500 were available on Spotify. So half.
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link
That must have involved some serious typing. Thanks!
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 11:54 (nine years ago) link
the amount of stuff getting put out through means other than a significant label now is so huge I bet that % is dropping
― ogmor, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah, my percentage is probably wildly off the mark, even for stuff from the early 70s, as most private press and indie stuff only shows up if it was reissued at some point.
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link
I wonder how many hrs of music youtube has by comparison
― ogmor, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
i bet you could listen to music on youtube for an entire day and never have to repeat a song
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
I went through a large bunch of my stuff. It came out around 70% on Spotify.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link
Certain licensing-sensitive genres like film scores are probably only about 10% present on spotify. But that's a genre where the majority of the music is out of print physically for the same reason.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
the vast majority of ALL recorded music is out of print and/or has never been translated digitally so I'd be shocked if it was above single digit percentage pointshttp://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub133/sum133.html
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
OTOH 85% of groovy Italian schlock soundtracks are represented so who gives a twat about crappy American soundtracks.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
1989 isn't available so spotify should just quit imo
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
it was a good run
Red wasn't on there for a full calendar year and we all survived.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
most of us anyway
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
I will wait until christmas when someone will def give me a starbucks gift card. I will then buy the album at starbucks with the gift card.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Dumb 1989 is better
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
$9.99 auto-rip from amazon is tempting, but then they're going to send me a cd! why don't they just offer the album digitally for $9.99?! what a disaster for the environment.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
YouTube has the acetates of yer grandad farting in the bathroom, with all of the attendant good and evil about that...
I know this absolutely ACE garage rock album wasn't on Spotify in its entirety about six mod ago, so:
http://open.spotify.com/album/2rPBcCdWIUOo8iJ85Ks5Ed
Now you can hear We the People's "My Brother the Man"! And other fuzz punk gems!
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
is it true that apps are due to be killed?
not sure how i'm going to live without the blue note app :(
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 November 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
what apps do you mean?
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:31 (nine years ago) link
I never really understood the apps but I usually just construct playlists like Albums Released in April of 1965
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 November 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
Giggle play's interface is so ugly, I'm tempted to switch back to spotify on aesthetics alone.
― calstars, Sunday, 2 November 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
so Taylor Swift pulled all of her albums, eh?
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
I understand what pulling all streaming could do for an artist/label, but I don't get the singling out of spotify. I am just going to listen to Taylor Swift's old albums on rdio now. But I will continue to use spotify for everything else.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
well it could obviously do something for her if she's in negotiations with them
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
dunno how effective an embargo is when there's plenty of other legal sources for what you're withholding
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
I guess I'm assuming that inciting spotify user outrage with spotify is the main play here. I don't know how much spotify makes off of plays from Swift's back catalog.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
her new album sold more in one week than any other album has sold all year. it's very possible this is about driving up catalog sales by not letting spotify placate those who lost some earlier album on a broken ipod or whatever. or maybe they're trying to squeeze an advance out spotify, like the ones given up to get catalogs from rhcp, metallica, etc. it is funny that it's still on beats and the rest, but those services have far fewer subscribers
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
yeah not everyone is an streaming-service-savvy internet music nerd like we are, and a lot of those ppl wd probably spend $10 to hear her album if it wasnt on spotty
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link
what's funny to me is that i'd usually argue album artists would benefit from putting singles on spotify, which is what artists like coldplay, black keys and beyonce have done, using the service like a jukebox/radio rather than a replacement for album sales. but in taylor's case she doesn't even need spotify as a promotional device - there's no debate that people will pay for it.
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
i mean, if you removed all but two-four songs from each album on spotify you'd still have an INSANE amount of music to play with, that's more than worth 5 dollars. only now record nerds and big fans would be forced to spend more than 5 dollars for the total package.
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
xpost:
Indeed, my ears always seem to be paying for it!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Monday, 3 November 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
maybe taylor swift has an exclusive contract with beats?
― strychnine, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
that's definitely a potential outcome, esp considering taylor herself hasn't made any big political statement re all this, just big machine
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
good way to kill the competitors for the paymaster?
― strychnine, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
its so obvious why someone of her stature WOULD do this that it seems weird she'd ever consider putting her stuff on spotify at all
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
well as with metallica, rhcp, the john lennon estate, the advance might make it worth her while.
what's funny about any degree of backlash beyond "aw man my playlist went grey. rats." is i don't know why anyone would begrudge her maximizing her revenue from albums, as it's yet to be any worse than "you have to pay normal album price to get the album." it's just some people in 3 years decided they were entitled to all music ever for the monthly price of a happy meal.
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
also while it's still profitable to stick to cds and mp3s, if streaming becomes the standard eventually you won't have fans with mp3/cd players.
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
hold-outs like bob seger clearly control their rights contractually, i'm curious whether coldplay, the black keys, etc actually do or if their labels do the real weighing of the matter. like if peter buck was like "fuck spotify, pull rem albums off streaming" could warner bros be like "no, your used cds sell for a buck asshole, we'll take the pennies where we can?" with labels having equity in spotify they might be judicious about which acts get to be singles-only and which have their album sales sacrificed for the good of the eventual ipo.
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
david byrne has said he can't legally remove talking heads albums but he would if he could
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
it's just some people in 330 years decided they were entitled tostuck paying $15-25 for all musican album
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
hope the apps don't go away
the Blue Note app is one of the most awesome thing's that's been done in digital distribution of music
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, November 3, 2014 3:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^this really isn't fair it's not as if they haven't been doing much lower price points on itunes, amazon, and google music. i've DL'd new releases for $2 or gotten old catalog stuff for $5 all the time
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I mean if swift says her albums will now cost 25 bucks then yes I would say that sucks
― da croupier, Monday, 3 November 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, November 3, 2014 4:07 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
describe?
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/blue-note-records-spotify-app-streamlines-jazz-discovery-20120912
― koogs, Monday, 3 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
well that looks incredible.
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
What struck me was how innovative Jimmy Smith was
Spotify learnt me this too
― example (crüt), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
im not sure how to install any of these apps?
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link