more of a*
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Friday, 31 October 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
@Spazz: I'll honestly take your word for it, even though I feel ashamed. I'll doxx myself as one of the first ppl on Listessa back in 1994, had a fan website a year later etc, but that was lol teenager. Who plays which parts on which songs? I haven't a clue. Though I do remember even Iha and d'Arcy didn't even really know which of their takes ended up on several albums.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 31 October 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
They both have awful solo records but I think my vote inclines towards DJ Towa Towa.
― Moka, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
World Clique is better than most of the Pumpkins' work, yeah
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
Did Iha solo much? Did he pick up more live than on record? Etc etc
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 31 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5zoi4eN4G1qzcoa8o1_500.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 31 October 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
Hehe, that's on Vieuwphoria iirc? Great scene iirc
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 31 October 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
They all look amazing in that still, both individually and as a collection of humans
― Simon H., Friday, 31 October 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
It's very weird to look how in their early years they looked like a 60's psychedelic tribute band and the next second they look like every other band from the 90s. Some of the Gish songs make me wonder what would have been of the band if they had continued on the 'psychedelic' route.
http://www.scentsandsubtlesounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/smash1_final.jpg
― Moka, Friday, 31 October 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
Was that a thing around the turn of the 90s? I remember the Posies and Redd Kross gear from 1990 ish
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 31 October 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
I swear, Jellyfish was one of the first new bands I saw once the decade turned over, and my first thought was
http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/53/F46719EFE61511BD01F934389E9AF.jpg
"Welp, guess I know what the 90s are going to look like."
― pplains, Friday, 31 October 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link
if only
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 November 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
Andy Sturmer = early 70s James Taylor
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 1 November 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
Iha co-wrote Mayonaise which is arguably the best song on SD. Did Stairs write the best song on any Pavement albums?
― its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 1 November 2014 07:41 (nine years ago) link
also co-wrote Soma and I Am One
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 1 November 2014 07:49 (nine years ago) link
I don't really know much about spiral stairs and I guess he's alright but Iha is a class act. While Corgan would constantly bitch about every single thing around him (even calling James the worst person he's ever met which is just wrong on so many levels) James was always very private about the band's issues and seemed always chill.
Every smashing pumpkins' member is automatically likeable by simply putting up with Corgan's notorious tantrums.
― Moka, Saturday, 1 November 2014 10:22 (nine years ago) link
SS had three really good-to-great Pavement songs: Kennel District, Date w/ Ikea and Painted Soldiers. the other few that made it to record never really did much for me. and despite being pretty much universally panned iiirc, his first solo deal had 4 or 5 really good songs. i think i tried to listen to that second PSOI record one time and just couldn't find anything worth giving a second spin
― sexxx attic (will), Saturday, 1 November 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
Arguably the toughest ILX poll ever, as I'm not certain who is more useless of these two.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 November 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
I will always ride for this:
http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/The+Spaces+In+Between/1o9R3p?src=5
I may be one of 75 people who have spent time with all of SS's solo work, and some of it is okay, some of it cringeworthy. If dude's solo stuff packed the punch of the handful of songs he wrote for Pavement it'd be easy to support him. When that last album of his came out though it was so horrible I could barely play it twice.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 November 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
http://www.last.fm/music/Pavement/_/Stub+Your+Toe
(This was a gem. Not on Youtube for some damn reason.)
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 November 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link
I think Chamberlin deserves mention for sticking it out as long as he has, coming back and so on. Didn't have to.
Like he knew that for all those years SP would be dead in the water without him there
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:09 (nine years ago) link
Billy Corgan is an undeniable creative force with kittens
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:11 (nine years ago) link
wrong-ish thread
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link
In the spirit of billy corgan, I am lobbying that he win all of his band mates' polls.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link
and make the threads about billy corgan
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:17 (nine years ago) link
(but you are right, I posted in the wrong thread)
(and I guess you did too)
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 November 2014 05:18 (nine years ago) link
Stumbled upon the Tweedy episode of Austin City Limits this morn and thought of this thread. Now there's a Robin who left his Batman in the dust.
― tobo73, Monday, 3 November 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Farrar collaborated with Ben Gibbard (of the indie rock band Death Cab for Cutie) to create all of the music for the soundtrack for the 2009 documentary film One Fast Move or I'm Gone, about Jack Kerouac's time spent at Big Sur. The soundtrack was released on October 20, 2009.[1]
:/
― shoot skag listen to sotl (rip van wanko), Monday, 3 November 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
i saw tweedy solo this year and he was awful, played the new record front to back and then butchered some wilco songs. voice was shot. horrible sound. farting fat insurance salesmen literally weeping the words to "i am trying to break your heart."
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Monday, 3 November 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
He was probably the same wise-ass I saw at the Wilco show in 2003 who kept yelling "CHICKAMAUGA!" between songs.
― pplains, Monday, 3 November 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 10 November 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Uu0tyKb.gif
― pplains, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link
I thought SS played a bigger part in pavement in the Slanted era, no? Was it really just SM that made all those cool sounds ? Couldn't be. There are two guitar parts there...
― calstars, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
more Pavement b-side goodness from Spiral:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zcbzWunBo4
― alpine static, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 08:01 (nine years ago) link
Iha is cool and a Soma co-write means the world to 17-year-old me. As for Spiral, this is pretty spot on:
SS had three really good-to-great Pavement songs: Kennel District, Date w/ Ikea and Painted Soldiers.
The rest of his stuff ranges from sketchy to pretty OK, but certainly reveals his limited range as a songwriter.
But, I mean ... Kennel District. I don't know if it's the BEST song on WZ, but it's right there. It's probably my favorite.
Plus, wasn't it Scott who essentially shepherded the reissues and the reunion tour? If not for him, we might have none of it (the reunion show I saw was fucking terrific). If nothing else, he wins this poll for that.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 08:20 (nine years ago) link
Probably my first descent into posting on a messageboard regularly was the old pavement disc.server forum back in the late 90s. Always wonder what happened to one of the posters on there, Western Homes.
― pplains, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
dunno if we're talking about the same thing but the old Pavement email list that started out of Stanford was definitely a formative thing in my life
― alpine static, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
In his 1993 book, "Assembling California", describing the geology of the state, John McPhee, begins at Mussel Rock. According to McPhee, "Mussel Rock is a horse. As any geologist will tell you, a horse is a displaced rock mass that has been caught between the walls of a fault. This one appears to have got away....Green seas slammed against it and turned white. It was not a small rock. It was like a three-story building,standing in the Pacific, with brown pelicans on the roof....After a five hundred-mile northwesterly drift through southern and central California, this was where the San Andreas Fault intersected the sea."[1]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjqW-NfCmcA
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
Always wonder what happened to one of the posters on there, Western Homes.
huh yeah I remember that guy
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Your Western Homes is not forgotten.
― pplains, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
I saw him posting in a friend's fb comments recently, still going by that name.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
C'mon, this was good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kthv6a702o
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
Spiral's solo albums sound like Spiral. that really says it all.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
KANNBERG
― calstars, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link