It's a cruel cruel summer: the sounds of deep tech / shuffle / cuttin shapes / upgrunt house / etc. etc. in 2014

i'll check out more rs4 tracks, i liked the lfo tribute

r i'll tell you which set posted itt did do it for me: the dj haus set from 11/14

i liked it better than the calle lebraun set (which was admittedly pretty good) which bothered me because every track had the same bassline

what's happening is i'm starting to sound like geir again

other ones i liked but couldn't make it all the way through were the majesty set and the dice and perch set.

overuse of fm bass

three things this music reminds me of: 1) chicken lips 2) dj narrows 3) jump up jungle

this mix and the dancers in it video are really doing it for me

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i just don't get the idea of a whole genre of tracks that sound so samey and simple

It is what it is (etc.)

Also, shout out to the ultra-dark sonar bass on the second half of the RS4 LFO Tribute! Could listen to that forever.

Love that youtube, though note that one of the qualities the London shuffle appears to have inherited from the Melbourne shuffle is its attraction to dancers who don't really understand the notion of dancing in time with the music.

think u can say that about dancing in general

chicago house is pretty samey simple wudnt u agree chaps

and okay and from above are not deep tech

Yeah you can say it about dancing in general but shuffle type dances make it more obvious I guess because of how focused the dancing is.

yeah i would like to think that watching some of the dances might at least illustrate to some extent why this stuff is narrowed by design, the appeal in deliberately focusing on a specific claustrophobic minatory tension, using it as tautly-wired rotational axis

fyi both calle sets are 50% his own production (and majesty's 100%) which maybe adds to the "samey" thing somewhat tho i know that's not rly what tlg was getting at

also hope it is audibly obvious that the dj haus set is not pertinent to this stuff in the slightest, as i said i only mentioned it in noting some scene trax finding their way into unexpected avenues

chicago house is pretty samey simple wudnt u agree chaps

also trad acid house and detroit-rooted techno iirc. typical infidel's gambit

and okay and from above are not deep tech

i've already said why i'm not v happy with this polemical tack but otoh perhaps hardline hawkisms might make for a better study guide at this point

bad moment to indulge outliers but i do quite like the rs4 psytrance angle

https://soundcloud.com/rs4house/toyc-shuffle-rs4-mix

particularly this remix (which isnt really much more than a rejigged 'no one else') was enough to get me wondering if a humid tropical rainforest deep tech set (a la wonderland09) was viable, just for fun

oh I so want that

and okay and from above are not deep tech

It's a fine line between it being a coherent style and something like a 'made in England' tag. #justsayin

But maybe a label like Mokujin is interesting for sitting on the edge (and mainly being a clearing house for Paul Robinson). I think Valid might like some of this stuff, but is this deep tech? *shrug*

Soz, meant Vahid (the late great?) there. Was posting after the pub!

like i say it's not a particularly accurate or sane reflection of what the scene is but i do get where riz is coming from if the ilm deep tech eoy only adds up to massien, rs4, and popular house commonalities. was that caucus or caucayzh

x5 dubs, calle lebraun, majesty, ar, truce, a2h, jack n danny, louie anderson, riaz dhanani among others have all put out like at least three huge riddims each this year and if we're not riding for those we're not riding for anything, just ideologically vacant personal-brand cherrypick tourism and doglatin discourse blagging

:)

Real talk.

Would def vote for Babylon System in an ILM EOY poll that said.

https://soundcloud.com/camocrooks/camo-crooks-we-control-the-sound

bleeeeeeeeeeeep

my fave (praps the only come to think of it) bit of new shuffle-specific vernacular is when a tune makes someone just say POWER

that would get one of those i imagine

If we're doing end-of-year lists now, here's a few tunes that feel like 'where things are at' with the scene this year (obviously bearing in mind that I'm just listening to sets rather than there on the ground):
Truce ft Kenny Knots – Take Control (Tech mix is prob my favourite, but I guess the og mix is slightly more definitive)
Tazer – Wet Dollars (Donaeo remix)
Leon Renner ft Kerri Ann – Wait For You (Anthony Ranz remix)
Archie B – On & On
Nightshift – Made You Look (Hugo Massien remix)
X5 Dubs – Drunk In Love refix
Beep Dee – From Above (soz trillium/rizla, you know I love ya)

And beyond that here's a few personal faves:
Carnao Beats – Chords Of Life
Hodgson – One Spliff/Babylon System
RS4 – No One Else
Creative Mind & B3 – Take-Off
A2H – Effin Cockneys
Just JDan – The Master
Jack & Danny – The Machine
MK – Always (Shiba San remix)
Hugo Massien – Kontrol
Majesty ft Anton Romero – Touch
Playtime Productions – Haley
Nightshift – Dreams
Trixz – 7 Wonders
Synap – Your Hate
(Unfairly biased towards stuff I've heard recently though, and really there's at least a few dozen tunes I could include here).

god.... 'drunk in love', i know it's 2014, it has to be, but it feels sooooo much older now

it will be the one bit from all this stuff people will remember in ten years time. culture tune

lol not even joking i actually probably wouldnt have thought to put it down in any list so immanentized is it

'making love' is a classic too

the fact x5 put both up for free when they were hot or getting there (yes sample issues but) puts to shame all these other wannabe despots sitting on tunes til they are stone dead and killing the golden goose. there are way too many

^Yeah I'm still surprised not just by the amount of tunes that are given away by free download, but by the quality of some of the tunes that end up coming out that way. Licensing issues prob do explain it in some cases (like with Majesty's remix of My Love by Kele La Roc), but e.g. Donaeo's remix of Wet Dollars ended up being a free download iirc, and if anything you'd expect Tazer to be dead keen on it being an official commercially-released remix with Donaeo's name all over it. *shrugs*

I suppose in terms of being objective I should have included Promesses by Tchami as a definitive anthem for the scene this year. Still not the biggest fan of it myself though, even after hearing it billions of times on sets. The breakdown bits are cool in a woozy, swoony sort of way but the main drop/riff is just a bit naff imo.

I mean to be clear, I don't hate it. Preditah's remix is predictably pretty good.

Great choices Andy.

Funny how X5 Dubs and some random other bits like the Hugo Massien remix of "Made You Look" posit this stiff snapping electro direction that deep tech could take which (a) sounds wonderful but (b) just doesn't feel like something that would ever happen? It's a lovely cul de sac in any event.

i love that ominous slightly off-key droney synth sound that x5 dubs put in the background of all their tunes. tense

i'm fairly behind on this stuff nowadays (and music in general unfortunately) but my pick would be truce's take control. fave producers in the scene are probably playtime productions but i think all of their big tunes were last year and they seem to have gone a bit quiet? i think i said before i wasn't quite as struck by their contribution to the AR comp.

carnaos bass switch is another sick un. i´m generally ok with this scene being mc free but riddims like this make me think thats a shame.

btw andy dunno if you knew hayley is a playtime remix of a scottie d tune (as in criminally overlooked uk funky legend scottie d) from last year. killer tune though!

btw andy dunno if you knew hayley is a playtime remix of a scottie d tune (as in criminally overlooked uk funky legend scottie d) from last year. killer tune though!

Hehe I didn't know this till now but feel like I should have. Scottie D seems to have adapted quite well to deep-tech-ish stuff under his Love & Affection/L&A Music alias. GGB seems to play his stuff a lot. Love his tune Atmosphere (like the url says, supposed to be coming out on SOTU at some point):
https://soundcloud.com/scottmusik/atmosphere-coming-out-on-sotu

Ohhh and just realised that his Snows In April tune is one I'd been hearing in sets for ages without having an ID on:
https://soundcloud.com/scottmusik/djscottie-d-snows-in-april
Dark as you like!

Riaz Dhanani - Dark Forest VIP, On A Mission
Adam Cotier - Move Harder
A2H - Sorry's Not Enough, Don't Belong to You
Storm - Back In Touch
X5 Dubs - Boy Is Mine VIP, Because Of Me (X5 Dubs Remix), Nicole's Groove, Le Sex
Calle Lebraun - Sometimes I (Fantasize) ft Abbee Audio, Quiet Storm, Because of Me. Give & Take, Do Me Like Dat, The Essence, Going Back to Calle VIP
Louie Anderson - Dream, 9Ts (Remix), Don't Stop, Who Want It
Nightshift - Telling Me
Majesty - The One, Split Ends
Hugo Massien - All Night, Just Step, Damage, On My Own
Harry Ley - House, Underground, Strobe
S.E.F - What It Is
DJ Pioneer & TJ - Circles ft Dana McKeon (Playtime Remix), (Truce Remix)
Zander Hardy - Let Me Show You ft Anton Romero (Truce Remix)
AR - My Life ft Shenin Amara, What Is Love (AR Remix), So Much Pressure (AR Remix), Not Gonna Get Us (TATU Dub), Ying Yang
Rude Kid - No Stopping
Limit'less - Float VIP, Deepest Part Of Me
Creative Mind - House Of Evil
Anton Romero - Keep Calm
Jay Cas - Don't Be Afraid
London Grammar - Nightcall (Luke Larrell Remix)
Jack n Danny - Heat, Deep Down
Kurtz & Bomber - Such A Rush (Jack n Danny Refix)
Saint & Sinner - Somehow, Until I Die, Only For A Moment
Banton - Some Of Us
Oliver Rees - Eyes, Mango
Camo Crooks - Maestro
Antonio Noure - Pingpong
MNEK - Wrote A Song About You (Arun Verone Rework)
NRKY - Dangers, Enough, Polly Crayon
Nightshift - Telling Me, Forever, Equip For Warfare Clothes Bankrolls & Hoes, What Can I Do, That Hard Street Shit
Playtime Productions & Richie Cane - Truck Stop
J Clarke - Waving The 44, The Truth
Pesci - Stronger On My Own, The Luther Effect
Tech Twins - Wonder
Louis Fingers - Let It Play
Tainted Souls - Deep Down (Holt Blackheath Remix)

nice one, gonna go through that list for a quick catch up

gotta mention the strange static crew here (KG3, Just Jdan, Joseph Curti5, Aaron vibe, Perch), some of the rawest shit out there, ace radio show too.

AR - Not Gonna Get Us (TATU Dub)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anton Romero - Keep Calm

love this

^ gr8 when the beat goes all blurry woozy for "bout to back some juice, now i feel a bit loose..."

big fan of ar as mentioned upthread. he can slink n glower like the best of them but also has his fun with this uniquely nutty strain of sampling off-key things like sam & the womp, tatu, oh and i forgot this one too https://soundcloud.com/arproducer/ar-lance-morgan-next-to-me (which i thought was a v amusing juxtaposition until rodigan later made it come true at the red bull clash) (how come we never talked about that anyway)

the only other producer that comes vaguely close in that regard is louie anderson (see his '9ts' remix, ideally in situ near the start of x5 dubs' agenda set linked upthread) but his is a more bugged-out cokehead loon kinda vibe. was quite pleased when he guested on nightshift's podcast recently and did indeed turn out to be an pwopa nawty essex geezer

i didn't say how much i loved that louie anderson single that sampled nicki did i? big fan of the way this scene samples female rappers (and vocal samples in general)

https://soundcloud.com/mfrrecords/harry-ley-my-neck-original-mix

ur welcome

i still think there's mileage in this otm idea but there remains no evidence of it that i'm aware of; i'd imagine if anything the scene may have codified to become exclusionary tho idk

Queerness in Afro-British dance music?

strictly musically speaking you could say the london shuffle/tech/deep thing right now is (unknowingly) likely the queerest-coding organically indigenous (well, sort of) urban scene there's ever been in the uk, but again that's more in theory than (ime at least) proper evidence of cultural mutuality. as far as i can ascertain it's still kind of like ballroom made and consumed by lumpen str8s; from afar there would seem to me to be logical potential there though, idk

― r|t|c, Monday, 29 July 2013 13:20 Bookmark

nonsense

what is

which part

An aside: love it how this thread begins w/ the same lukewarm response and indignation as 'funky house sceptics'...

Finally checking out Introducing Calle Lebraun mix. Carnao Beats - Chords Of Life: epic.

xp lol yeah same, went on a rant about it there too funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

'chords of life' is v good but i tend to subconsciously sabotage its belleville 3 pomposity by thinking of a sad robot laboriously playing panpipes

this stiff snapping electro direction that deep tech could take which (a) sounds wonderful but (b) just doesn't feel like something that would ever happen? It's a lovely cul de sac in any event.

― Tim F, Saturday, 22 November 2014 19:34 Bookmark

https://soundcloud.com/rinsefm/markradford081114

get the lino out cos radford the master of cul de sacs has something of mild interest for u at 52 mins here (jakkin rabbit 'malteaser') (jakkin rabbit is half marc spence of jackin repute somewhat predictably)

https://soundcloud.com/jackndanny/jackndanny-vs-kurtzbomber-such-a-rush-remix-free-download

yasss. simple and lethal

x5 dubs, calle lebraun, majesty, ar, truce, a2h, jack n danny, louie anderson, riaz dhanani among others have all put out like at least three huge riddims each this year and if we're not riding for those we're not riding for anything, just ideologically vacant personal-brand cherrypick tourism and doglatin discourse blagging

as a tourist of this thread i agree

Would def vote for Babylon System in an ILM EOY poll that said.

as a tourist of this thread i agree