You don't find Silver at all moving, Matt DC? It kills me.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 28 November 2014 10:49 (nine years ago) link
i was quite surprised by the scale of rustie's crit-love last time - i loved glass swords but it never felt like a canon-friendly album (or sound) (or artist - rustie's never been marketed as a One Of A Kind Auteur). i think consensus is that the new one's a bit of a fall-off, the same formula but less good, and where other acts often get a tail of support for slightly-less-good takes on their formula (as a vote of support for the formula itself) it doesn't surprise me that rustie doesn't get that.
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 November 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link
do music journalists even write about the importance of PR machines these days? not just offhand comments but actual detail about which artists get PRed to which journalists and in what terms. i'm pretty bad at predicting crossover artists based on music, but it's much easier if you base it on press releases
what are some recent low-key records that weren't heavily PRed/didn't get much attention on release that have crossed over?
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 November 2014 10:56 (nine years ago) link
I do like it but that's really in spite of the vocals - I really wish he'd work with more external vocalists because there's a chord change in that particular song that really does slay me.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link
People are less likely to tolerate a drop off in quality when the music is really brightly coloured and in your face and hyper. An average mopey album can usually get a free pass on atmosphere alone but having megacompressed sugary Nintendo synths flying at you is just going to be annoying if you don't have the tunes to back them up.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:01 (nine years ago) link
as much as i loved glass swords, it's a pretty exhausting listen and not really something i either need or want another helping of. possibly the same applies to tune-yards?
ha xp!
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 28 November 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link
I mean in contrast to someone like Burial who people will probably end up dutifully voting for every single time he releases a record.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:05 (nine years ago) link
The Guardian so far...
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicb ... ms-of-2014
40. Tricky - Adrian Thaws39. Sharon Van Etten - Are We There38. Toumani Diabate and Sidiki Diabate - Toumani & Sidiki37. Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Pinata36. Ex Hex - Rips35. Peggy Seeger - Everything Changes34. Jamie T - Carry on the Grudge33. Scott Walker and Sunn O))) - Soused32. Shabazz Palaces - Lese Majesty31. Leonard Cohen - Popular Problems
30. East India Youth - Total Strife Forever29. Ariel Pink - Pom Pom28. Damon Albarn - Everyday Robots27. Kindness - Otherness26. Tinashe - Aquarius25. Actress - Ghettoville24. Banks - Goddess23. Hurray for the Riff Raff - Small Town Heroes22. Merchandise - After the End21. Ratking - So It Goes
20. Owen Pallett - In Conflict19. Jhene Aiko - Souled Out18. Jenny Lewis - The Voyager17. Young Fathers - Dead16. Wild Beasts - Present Tense15. Angel Olsen - Burn Your Fire For No Witness14. Future Islands - Singles13. Kate Tempest - Everybody Down12. Taylor Swift - 198911. Mac DeMarco - Salad Days
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 28 November 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link
oops: http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/nov/26/-sp-the-best-albums-of-2014
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 28 November 2014 11:19 (nine years ago) link
really happy to see Angel Olsen doing well in lots of these
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 28 November 2014 11:20 (nine years ago) link
about time In Conflict showed up
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:27 (nine years ago) link
lookin good that listi did enjoy the jhene aiko record
― nxd, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link
Surprised Taylor didn't make the Guardian Top 10. Must be St Vincent, FKA twigs, Caribou, Aphex, Lana Del Rey and War on Drugs but I can never predict the whole thing.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link
did aphex fans like the aphex album? (i've never heard an aphex track and saw little reason to change that)
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 November 2014 11:59 (nine years ago) link
Run The Jewels surely, which will mean there's a lot more hip hop than most of the mainstream lists so far. xp
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 28 November 2014 11:59 (nine years ago) link
Lex I think there's actually quite a lot of Aphex stuff that you would really like (and a proportion you would hate) - a lot of the artists you've repped for in the last few years sound like one or another aspect of his sound.
Most Aphex fans were behind the album although there was also a proportion of people who were hoping he'd drop something totally out-of-the-blue like his best 90s albums. It's him doing what he does really well (ie 'ticks every box except make a completely new box').
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 12:20 (nine years ago) link
did aphex fans like the aphex album? (i've never heard an aphex track and saw little reason to change that)― lex pretend, Friday, November 28, 2014 11:59 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Friday, November 28, 2014 11:59 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Big fan here, but after about a week of hoping Syro would somehow reveal itself beyond my first listen I found it didn't do much else to win me over; excellent sound design notwithstanding. I know a lot of people appreciated it as a no-nonsense Aphex album, but I happen to be quite a big fan of nonsense and this crystallisation of his sound just felt a bit tired-out to me. There are a couple of tracks that stand out but on the whole I couldn't really discern much between the individual tunes and the whole thing goes by in one superficially impressive blur. YMMV of course - if you've never heard Aphex at all and champion consistency over eclecticism, I'd say it was the one to check out simply because the production sounds more up to date than the older stuff. But it's not my favourite, no.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
Havent heard the Aphex Twin record, like plenty artists he has some good records and some poor ones
Problem with people like him is preconception, people hear it differently because of the name on the sleeve so the music is judged differently. Of course this happens to most artists with any longevity, but more so those with a gap (real or imagined) - probably happens less with singles than albums though
― saer, Friday, 28 November 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link
Clever of him to make such a pleasurable, accessible album that, I reckon, will charm new listeners more than it impresses old ones.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 28 November 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
No Neneh Cherry in the Guardian list, unless she's made the top ten which is far from impossible given some of the other albums in there.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link
I'm surprised Everyday Robots is sowing up in so many lists. I haven't bothered to listen yet. Is the rest much better than the horrid "Mr. Tembo"?
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 November 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
haven't heard it either but i'm willing to bet it's little better than utter guff.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
Yes. The rest is soft, pretty and a bit dull rather than jaunty and unbearable.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 28 November 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
I'm wondering which list will be a more facile explosion of sop-to-the-boomer-readership rockist bullshit - the NME list or rolling stone
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
you misspelled "uncut"
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Friday, 28 November 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
lol either or the shot still basically works
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
NME for sure. Rolling Stone has been doing a particularly desperate version of the "we like what the kids like!" dance recently.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 28 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
glad to see tinashe made the guardian list
rly bummed that YG hasn't shown up on any lists as yet. also, as expected, literally everyone forgot about oxymoron
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
have they? RS, I mean. I seem to remember them squeezing a complete horseshit paul mccartney solo record in the top 5 last year, and their perennial 5 star reviews of U2 albums (ty david fricke :/) are just.....wut? to me.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
I'm obviously in the minority in preferring Nikki Nack to whokill, though I'm not really sure I could articulate why. More percussion and less ukelele, maybe?
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko),
I love the album, looked like a surefire top ten in May, but this is a year that I love a lot of albums and this last quarter's been terrific.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
well someone liked the albarn album...
Gaffa Magasin (Denmark) - Årets album 2014
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
rolling stone is an unapologetically boomer magazine.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
I find tuneyards to be more or less unlistenable critic-bait snake oil...but I admit water fountain is catchy as fuck (altho I know this mostly bc it showed up in a bunch of commercials & trailers recently)
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
Fricke looks like a really nice guy but someone should do something about those five star reviews.
I seem to remember they used to be somewhat more cautious about giving five stars. Like, 15 years ago, it was hard to see that kind of review outside of the reissues section. The first 5 star review I remember seeing and thinking "man, these guys are high as a kite" was what Jann Wenner perpetrated for Mick Jagger's Goddess in the Doorway.
― cpl593H, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
I mean they still are somewhat liberal in their use of them unless it's a boomer rock record - like I can't recall anything that earned 5 stars in the past 10 yrs and didn't meet that criteria apart from two kanye albums (late registration and twisted fantasy) but correct me if I'm wrong.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
I'm wondering which list will be a more facile explosion of sop-to-the-boomer-readership rockist bullshit
Making an educated guess that the boomer readership of the NME is basically zero.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
I suppose a better NME stereotype would be a certain crusty segment of gen xers - the attitudes toward music in both are more or less similar tho I would think even if the bands are different
but what do I know I'm a yung millennial ijit
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
who does read the NME these days exactly?
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
It's almost entirely under 25s plus a residue of Paleolithic Oasis/Roses fans is my guess.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
i honestly can't bring myself to imagine someone currently under 25 purchasing, without irony, a copy of a weekly music paper in 2014.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
I cant imagine anyone over 25 buying NME
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah but they never did.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
not true
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
up until conor mcnicholas' reign of landfill terror plenty did then they branded the mag for teenagers
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
that guy.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
i wonder if there's a way of quantifying exactly how much he was responsible for messing up the UK music landscape? I can imagine it's considerable.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Caribou certainly seems to appeal to a kind of listener who likes the emotional mooniness of post-Kompakt dance music but with a more organic sound palette. Personally I quite like that album but I can't imagine ever finding his drippy "I can't live without yooooooooooou" vocals emotionally moving.
― Matt DC, Friday, November 28, 2014 4:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Caribou isn't really a dance/electronic act anyway, audience is mostly indie even if new stuff is more dance , he's on Merge ferchrissakes
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
xp now that IS overstating the inportance of critics
― why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Friday, 28 November 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
Surprised by the lack of Spoon on these particular lists.
― Darvin H.A.M. (AlexPh), Friday, 28 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
Spoon have never done well on the UK lists. Think Stylus was the place I remember seeing them do well. Have no idea why the NME in particular never got behind them.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 28 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link