but no one actually said cosmo or its list spoke for all women. it codes female by dint of having by far the largest proportion of female artists of any list, many from genres with high proportions of female artists and fans. in light of that mordy reacting with some shit about how lol rote and superficial it was (not a complaint directed at any other list so far) seemed pretty sexist.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
That Pixies album alternated between the inconsequential and the plain terrible.
― cpl593H, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link
So far my takeaway from these lists is that only about 3 people still care about Lamb 😞
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link
11. One Direction, Four - Huh. Should I listen to this? I have def spent time w/One Direction in my life
yes!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
Camaraderie at Arms Length is OTM. Cosmo isn't a music magazine, it's a lifestyle magazine aimed at a particular audience of women and that's why it initiated a bit of a LOL. It's wrong to assume this is the music that 'women' like. It's also wrong to assume that this is the music that 'Ilxors' like.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
Itemizing a list of 20 records with reasons I like or dislike them is now mansplaining? jeezus.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
mordy reacting with some shit about how lol rote and superficial it was (not a complaint directed at any other list so far)
"preset values", "boring", "embarrassing" (you), "all these lists are the same, ehhh", "music for conservative dads" (paraphrasing myself)
I would say those things are reasonably similar to "lol rote and superficial", and that's just us two. What Mordy actually said was it's funny that Cosmo is the list most aligned with the ilx hivemind. It is at least mildly noteworthy if true that a dedicated music site shares the most taste with a publication more known for sex tips and beauty advertising than its music coverage. When you equate that with "oh no we're like GIRLS", it certainly LOOKS like you're saying girls = love sex tips and beauty advertising, conform entirely to this construction of gender normativity, must ringfence this forever because this is what girls are like. It is frustrating.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
Ignoring the main point of a post in order to provide a carefully constructed argument for why the irrelevant part of a post is wrong is kind of mansplainy, yeah.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Tbh, I didn't even see your post, emil.y, I just wandered in this thread last night and saw Johnny Fever's post and was inspired to do the same. Apologies for any offense caused.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
You blazed in and the first words of your first post on the subject were "That Cosmo list is shit..." I can't IMAGINE why that might put anyone on the defensive and possibly overlook the second half of your post!
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
I do regret going "but it's shit", to be honest. I think pretty much all of these lists are shit so it's not noteworthy that I also think this one is shit. But that was a reaction against other people going "noooo must defend the Cosmo list it's amaaazing".
― emil.y, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
the reaction to most of these lists has been that they're shit. if you think a list's shit, it's fair enough to say.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
Juno Plus Re-issues. Some over with the Fact chart.http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2014/12/03/best-of-2014-reissues-and-archival-releases/
1. Gigi Masin – Talk to the Sea (Music From Memory)2. Vangelis Katsoulis – The Sleeping Beauties: A Collection of Early and Unreleased Works (Into The Light)3. Lewis – L’amour/Romantic Times (Light In The Attic)4. Roland Young – Hearsay I-Land (Palto Flats)5. Donato Dozzy and Nuel – The Aquaplano Sessions (Spectrum Spools)6. Psyche - Re-Membering Dwayne (Dark Entries)7. Z AKA Bernard Szajner – Visions of Dune (InFiné)8. K. Leimer – A Period of Review (Original Recordings: 1975 – 1983) (RVNG Intl)9. Tom Ellard – ’80s Cheesecake (Dark Entries)10. Dat Oven – Icy Lake (Fade To Mind/Night Slugs)
― millmeister, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
Some *overlap with the Fact chart.
― millmeister, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
Gorilla vs Bearhttp://www.gorillavsbear.net/2014/12/02/gorilla-vs-bears-albums-of-2014/
1. Shabazz Palaces - Lese Majesty2. Grouper - Ruins3. Ariel Pink - Pom Pom4. Tops - Picture You Staring5. Burial - Rival Dealer6. Doss - Doss + remixes7. Lewis - L'Amour/Romantic Times8. Freddie Gibbs and Madlib - Pinata9. Fear of Men - Loom10. Lana Del Rey - Ultraviolence11. Andy Stott - Faith in Strangers12. Flying Lotus - You're Dead!13. Mark Barrott - Sketches from an Island14. Yumi Zouma - Yumi Zouma15. Leon Vynehall - Music for the Uninvited16. Sharon Van Etten - Are We There17. Ana Caprix - For Seven Nights This Island Is Ours18. Angel Olsen - Burn Your Fire for No Witness19. DJ Dodger Stadium - Friend of Mine20. Panda Bear - Mr Noah21. Recycle Culture - Drown Me Up22. Jessie Ware - Tough Love23. Johnny Jewel - Rarities & Unreleased24. Tinashe - Aquarius25. Beverly - Careers26. Mica Levi - Under the Skin27. Alvvays - Alvvays28. Sales - Sales29. Viet Cong - Cassette30. The War on Drugs - Lost in the Dream31. Vesuvio Solo - Favors32. Schoolboy Q - Oxymoron33. Mr Twin Sister - Mr Twin Sister34. Korallreven - Second Comin'35. You'll Never Get to Heaven - Adorn
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
xps It was just a timing issue. We've all been picking apart all these lists, and then one comes along that resembles something we'd actually make (at least in part) and there was cause for celebration. Then Mordy, then slothroprhymes' tongue-in-cheek reaction to Mordy, then lex...then I don't know. It's tough now to remember what I was thinking last night when this unfolded.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
GvsB still reliably digs a little deeper than all the other big indie bloggers. Big props for capping it off with You'll Never Get to Heaven's Adorn, which is a wonderful little EP.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link
I'm actually quite surprised the Kelis album hasn't figured in more lists, even lurking around the 30s somewhere.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
The Guardian continues the slow roll: http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/nov/26/-sp-the-best-albums-of-2014
8 Beck - Morning Phase9 Flying Lotus - You're Dead10 Sleaford Mods - Divide And Exit
Nothing too exciting though the FlyLo is growing on me. I was a fan of earlier ones, just hadn't been in the mood for a while. Beck and Sleaford Mods can suckit though.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
I just remembered that it was the NPR list, not the Guardian's, that I thought was pretty good last year.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link
did Rival Dealer really come out this year...? Damn.
Anyway, Ariel Pink notwithstanding the GvsB isn't too bad.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
there are evidently more profound consonances between ilm ideology and cosmo ideology, nevermind the apparent gender polarity
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
rival dealer was late last year but mighta missed some 2013 lists
― nxd, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
wasn't it on the ilx list or am i imagining it?
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
maybe on both lists
― nxd, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
deff on one at least
― nxd, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
ah yes so it seems (74th for the title track and 30th on the album chart)
― nxd, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
If they were sensible and did these charts at the end of the year, they wouldn't need to pick up these late 2013 releases in the first place.
― millmeister, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
p much any given publication has a lot more to lose from waiting until the end of the year to do all this crap than they do from possibly missing out on one or two releases
― proper maoist (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
uh oh:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-best-songs-of-2014-20141203
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link
No Depression - Top 10 albums:http://nodepression.com/top-10-albums-list/2014-0
1. Sunny Sweeney - Provoked2. Carolina Story - Chapter Two3. Marcia Ball - The Tattooed Lady and the Alligator Man4. Cowboy Jack Clement - For Once and For All5. The Levon Helm Band - The Midnight Ramble Session 36. The Hayden Triplets - The Hayden Triplets7. The Levon Helm Band - The Midnight Ramble Session 38. Paul Thorn - Too Blessed to Be Stressed9. Justin Townes Earle - Single Mothers10. Lee Ann Womack - The Way I'm Livin'
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
I like #7, #5 is shit
― Lorde 2Pac Beck Mashup (crüt), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
bout the same for me,
― saer, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
so far only one (1) point in the RS songs list favor - it includes 0 to 100
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
oh shit, that's just some dumb forum post xps
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
i thought it looked a bit low-key
xxxp to myself ok its actually not too terrible overall, certainly runs circles around the albums list
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
I'm tight with the Juno Plus list of best reissues. Also agreeing with their comment re Gigi Masin's Talk To The Sea
wasn’t just the best reissue project of the year – it was better than most albums of new music released in 2014
― doug watson, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
i posted this in the sleater kinney thread by mistake but:
Trapt - The Acoustic Collection is a real doozy from that AV Club least essential list
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
I'm tight with the Juno Plus list of best reissues. Also agreeing with their comment re Gigi Masin's Talk To The Sea― doug watson
― doug watson
It's been sitting in my Bandcamp wishlist for a few months. Just ordered.
― millmeister, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Listening to this now. Love it! Thanks for bringing it up.
― Evan, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
I completely missed Masin's reissue this year! Awesome.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
Complex - 30 best album covers of 2014http://uk.complex.com/style/2014/12/the-best-album-covers-of-2014/
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
gtfo are they serious?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
It's like "hmm, let's look through this pile of review copies...ok that one looks alright...this one too...do we have 30 yet?"
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
Even as I was disappointed by the Shabazz Palaces album I knew some people would consider it an "OMG future of hip hop" masterpiece. I hoped I'd be one of those people but it reminded me of Divine Styler's Spiral Walls… The best tracks were the ones closest to hip hop, the more supposedly far-out stuff just sounded blah.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
AV Club's "Least Essential Albums of 2014" Listhttp://www.avclub.com/article/least-essential-albums-2014-212075only one of these i listened to is the country tribute to motley crue and it is indeed utterly unnecessary
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
those covers! Every single one is so ugly, yet in so many different ways
― saer, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Fabulous boomer earnestness in Rolling Stone's blurb for the Jackson Browne song: "Memories of youth in the Sixties, reflected through decades of lived truth."
Lived truth.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
fucking wenner prob wrote that one himself, sobbing while he did so
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link