It's a cruel cruel summer: the sounds of deep tech / shuffle / cuttin shapes / upgrunt house / etc. etc. in 2014

i like this Divoli S'vere mix a ton:
http://dotheastralplane.com/2014/04/15/divoli-svere-mix-for-the-astral-plane/

Ctrl-f "upgrunt"
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/dec/30/how-deep-tech-became-clubbings-biggest-success-story

Great piece despite that shocking absence.

are Dusky deep tech? love them

They're not but I like them too.

Part 3 in the mix series now up:

http://www.mixcloud.com/MrAndyM/house-trip-volume-3/

Tracklist:
Just JDan - The Master
Jack N Danny - Flying High
Lost & Found - Lana's Lies
Hugo Massien ft Mavora - Damage
Ante Perry & Kolombo - Completely Positive (Walker & Royce remix)
Oliver Huntemann & Stephan Bodzin - Rubin
DJ Pioneer & TJ ft Dana McKeon - Circles (Truce dub mix)
Lucky Paul ft Mara TK - Elephant Island (Ossie remix)
Theo Nasa - Galaxy Jungle
Jay Cee - Steryophonic
A2H - Sorry's Not Enough
Jack N Danny - On & On
Skinnyfat - Necessity (Praise You)
Mr & Mrs Smith - F The Radio
Limitless - Darkest Part Of Me
Kid Tizoh - Mind Games
Creative Mind - House Of Evil
Jakkin Rabbit - Rock Steady
Hugo Massien - Myndgamez
Syap - Your Hate
Carnao Beats - The Witness
Route 94 - Misunderstood
Danny T - So Much Pressure (AR remix)
Majesty ft Anton Romero - Touch
Archie B - All Night Long
Omex - Murder Sound
Arun Verone - Short From Change
Playtime Productions & Majesty - Cruel Summer (Apollo 84 remix)
Erly - Siren

Download link (Sendspace):
https://www.sendspace.com/file/53v7di
Download link (Mediafire):
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/dl80yksj9n3jvku/HouseMix3.mp3

Holy shit @ this KG3 tune:
https://www.soundcloud.com/strangestatic/kg3-freak

Taken from this great radio set:

https://soundcloud.com/perchmc/aaron-vybe-perch-mc-strange-static-show-14-03-14

Seriously tho this Aaron Vybe radio set is amazing.

Yeah can't really go wrong with Strange Static radio sets.

I need to give some of their more recent ones a listen actually.

IT'S ALL OVER

https://soundcloud.com/hugomassien/hugo-massien-ultra-2015-dub

Hugo Massien is the best.

Also like the idea of Ultra-House.

not feeling that hugo massien tbh

https://soundcloud.com/pathogen-beats/strictly-underground-house-december-edition-mixed-for-wwwlocateyourshootcom

this set by pathogen though, pree the tune at 39:00, the gliding synths, the vocals, some perfect mutant grime house

tune after it sounds like some mojukin madness as well, some fuckery techno thats danceable but weird as fuck

much better than that contrived hugo jawn

https://soundcloud.com/aaronvybe/aaron-vybe-destruction-mix - this 1s not bad as well

having said that though

https://soundcloud.com/crowdedhouseinc/fudge-hugo-massienboxing-day-2014invite-only

this set is pretty fucked

Yeah, he's great. Not sure what your dig is about? It's definitely less subtle than a lot of Mokujin stuff.

Those mixes look great though! Will check them out.

Should mention in passing I also brought in my NYE inducting friends at a house party into deep tech with that Calle Lebraun mix! :D

just wasnt feeling the tune/hyperbole too much but ye hugo is def one to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-DgjPTxjVs

hugo massien - sbtv

Tracklisting
KG3 - Tell Me
Nightshift - Made You Look (Hugo Massien Remix VIP)
Hugo Massien x Blazey Bodynod - Pump U Up
Camo Crooks - Insomnia
Redlight - 9Ts (Tolerance Beatz ft. Beege Remix)
Nightshift - Tremors
Hugo Massien - Better Let Her
Clean Bandit & Jess Glynne - Real Love (Ollie Julien & Shaun Dean Remix)
Riaz Dhanani - On A Mission
Jay Cas - They Don’t Know
Hugo Massien - Fahrenheit
RS4 - Love You Girl (Dub)
Hugo Massien - Kontrol
Formula - You Make Me
J Brown - Pump It Up
KG3 - Believe
Hugo Massien - All Night

just to show theres no hard feelings ;)

Rediscovering Massien's "String Tek": such a great addition to the Nasty Crew --> "Gabryelle" --> ??? continuum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhpooLUiGw

TUNE

monster TUNE, controversial addition itt but on reflection allowable

https://soundcloud.com/spinnin-deep/pep-rash-rumors-original-mix

even less germane but my shit right now is THIS

spinnin > motown

― r|t|c, Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:15 Bookmark

I justify on the basis that i heard it in one of Nightshift's amaze mine eyes have seen the glory House Sessions sets.

On that note also: Marcellus Wallace & That Guy's "Heavyweight", though it's not circulating in standalone form yet.

https://soundcloud.com/spinnin-deep/pep-rash-rumors-original-mix

even less germane but my shit right now is THIS

― r|t|c, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:38 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

holy shit @ this epochal banger, i am shocked to my very foundations

oh excellent that nightshift set was on my to do list

feel really bad for trilliam that all the major deep tech players seem to keep falling for these popular falsehoods rather than pursuing the one true path of rustic artisanal and definitely not contrived ruff sqwad 2002 playstation beats

seasoned fans will recognise of course that yes i am simultaneously using both realness and popist sticks to beat everyone itt with

deep tech players dropping tunes like "ghosts" et. al. is surely within the one true definition of realness, you have to understand the rules in yr bones to flout them at surface level with such swag.

wish I had forever screenshotted the spizzazzz explanation of R&B diva ballad realness.

in the soundcloud comments there for massien's 'ultra' (mind-altering) there's a guy in raptures (an american, who i suspect has posted earlier itt, possibly astrochimp?) who breathlessly invokes photek, which is v otm i feel, only not entirely in a positive way - there is def a "rupert and hugo advance the streets" vibe that is being glommed on to and that does a tasteless disservice to the rest of the scene

tune is sicker though. is anyone else hearing it as total depeche mode homage?!

in my head it fits nicely with this incredible thing from late last year which almost seems to perform the unintentionally witty feat of mashing up conspiciously consumptive 'bugatti' with like one of the on-u sound 12" dubs of 'people are people'

https://soundcloud.com/kanelawmusic/kane-laws-bugatti-played-by-mark-radford-on-rinse-fm

patrick topping, dj haus and other stuff have made me frequently wonder if a return to a really blocky 1980s yello/art of noise sound wasnt in the offing but idk

feel really bad for trilliam that all the major deep tech players seem to keep falling for these popular falsehoods rather than pursuing the one true path of rustic artisanal and definitely not contrived ruff sqwad 2002 playstation beats

huh ?

nothing wrong with djs playing either of them two tunes although ill admit they dont do much for me.

xpost yeah "Ultra" is totally Depeche Mode. It's that sense of simultaneous cleanliness and smut, like a latex-gloved hand poking out of a leather jacket.

The thing I find odd about trying to make Massien the Photek of deep tech is that, with the exception of a handful of tracks (the "Made You Look" remix, "Badman") his sound is fairly... emblematic? I mean, it's distinctive, sure, but only in a relative sense, like you can say that Massien stands out from Carnao or RS4 but conversely you can also say that RS4 stands out from Carnao or Massien, and so on.

As usual for me it's all about the spectrum: one of the things I love about the last two Nightshift mixes (I haven't heard pre volume 11) (and some of their tracks e.g. "Can't Lose") is how unabashedly housey they tend to get, really unafraid of big juicy swing. It's the relationship between stuff like that and the unabashed future-minimalism of "Badman" say that is fun, rather than fixating on one pole or the other.

double use of "unabashed" was deliberate but now I regret it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcYWCxcJ2go

turns out i have heard this nightshift set, for it is likely where i sourced this favourite ott mournful number (talein's previous track 'lights on' is a classic little underrated coquettish bubbler tho, do check)

it's an enjoyable set but for me not necessarily one where i'd have said its (all present and correct) ingredients manage to coalesce into that synapse-teasing ldn x-factor thing, like it just plays out too regular to hit that magic 88mph

the broader point about there being a variegated spectrum i agree with totally, but adumbrating the 'rules' within which that spectrum operates is what makes this all easily the most fiendishly impossible scene game there's yet been, critically speaking; often irresistibly bold and distinctive, other times vanished into wider house currents as if the whole thing was something imagined in the corner of ur eye, either way never consistent and only ever fleetingly communicable

kinda tempting to imagine deep tech as being like how a hypothetical funky without marcus might have turned out, an alternate reality where his round table nemesis pioneer held sway instead in all his non-oppositional pragmatism; and of course the brutal irony with that is that pioneer actually ishere playing this stuff while marcus otoh is left irrelevant and stranded precisely because of the strength of his earlier conviction, that very need to define his scene and set it apart

guess we all just muddle on

kinda tempting to imagine deep tech as being like how a hypothetical funky without marcus might have turned out, an alternate reality where his round table nemesis pioneer held sway instead in all his non-oppositional pragmatism; and of course the brutal irony with that is that pioneer actually ishere playing this stuff while marcus otoh is left irrelevant and stranded precisely because of the strength of his earlier conviction, that very need to define his scene and set it apart

lol i enjoy this alternative history scenario. It also feels pretty spot on to me though.

it also feeds into your earlier point about how funky producers who had a super-distinctive game back in the day have struggled in this new environment relative to lesser lights. There's a danger in articulating a particular vibe too clearly that the wind will change and you'll be stuck.

check d blog or not i dgaf

londonniggatimeline.tumblr.com

jus readin these posts shrivel d balls

salutations

Ah, Shiba San's headlining the MoS Audio Rehab night I see ;)

jus readin these posts shrivel d balls

salutations

ÔÇò joeyshoshoshabadoo, Friday, 30 January 2015 11:57 Bookmark

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luckily nothing gives me a stiffer road man boner than some powerblogging so thnx

have a complimentary suck your mum on the house

https://packlondon.com/News/NewsDetail/2899

doesnt please me to say it but more time i've listen to radford's show recently it sounds like it could be anything, subsoul deep house or whatever

i def understand supporting audio rehab as a flagship breakthrough success story (and obv radford is fully entitled to look for validation and security) but tbh trillz i'm struggling to figure out how that fits with ur hardline emphasizing the grimy eastside recs and strange static fucked up mutant techno bits and shutting people down saying bait house tunes arent deep tech even tho all the djs play them

bait house tunes which to be clear i do know arent straight up deep tech per se (i had a scolding post upthread too if u bovd reading that) but for me deep tech is as much about what the scene decides to play as what it produces itself and to claim otherwise is nuts

aite son lemme ask u a question n shut u the fuck up in the process real quick

frankie knuckles (house) playing at no mountain high (disco) // karl tuff jam (ukg) playing masters at work (house) // dj unique (grime) playing midnight request line (dubstep) // mark radford (deeptech) playing hot creations (deep house)

r u so stupid as u cant see the connections in djs playing the genre which founded, influenced or has a direct narrative in its existence? you think that minimizes what theyre doing or nah?

these blogs/websites cudnt care a less about the success story until they cudnt ignore it any more so u think radford is gonna jump on them with a 100% audio rehab plus recordings playlist or play the game with abit of give an take

finally u think i dont listen to house respect its history or bump certain house djs more than certain deep tech djs, ur way of listening/processing music is essentially flawed but u aint the only one on here so take some comfort in that

"bait house tunes which to be clear i do know arent straight up deep tech per se (i had a scolding post upthread too if u bovd reading that) but for me deep tech is as much about what the scene decides to play as what it produces itself and to claim otherwise is nuts"

theres a difference between me saying them tunes are not deep tech and me saying them tunes dont get played wtf r u talking about, if u cant see the need to distinguish between the two when a) the lines r muddied enough as it is when the unique london stuff goes under the super generic name of 'deep tech' b) the producers making the tunes im saying arent deep tech i.e. THE WIDER HOUSE SCENE (for the most part) have no idea deep tech exists and c) you still cant see what im getting at with that dj analogy

then u a fool, anyway i broke down your argument like wenger did alexis sanchez so im outta here unless its to critique/co-sign/smh other peoples posts

sho

lol wow rage issues

major crossed wires here, not only do i agree with all of that but i have been posting to that effect all throughout this thread, honestly baffed how u can't see that

the only diff i've been having with u is that while now in these last 2 posts ur using all these little modifiers like 'minimise' and 'distinguish' before that it was all hardline shutdowns that imo werent a fair reflection of the sometimes misleading 'muddle' u and i both agree exists with this music. like saying that massien's 'contrived' is obviously implicitly calling it tryhard fake, come off it with the oh all i meant was it's fine just not my cup of tea afterwards

"finally u think i dont listen to house respect its history or bump certain house djs" i didnt say none of this, projecting hard

and "ur way of listening/processing music", come again??? i am not jimithexploder trust me

no rage issues im calm

on massien boom right after i said that contrived shit i dropped a fire hugo set n then another, but i do think that badman tune he's got is tryhard fake u 100 percent right, plus the fact that all the jimitheexploder type guys flock to him while putting down ninety percent of the stuff yeah it draws my ire even though yes talent wise he is on the top percentile, he's hard and his shit aint FACT bait at all but if someones gonna end up there uno it's gonna be him.

n yo if you know about dissensus ion even know why we having this convo, if you've read that thread you know ive said the same type of stuff im saying now n upthread a million times in various levels of politeness, political correction n uno i dont backtrack. not one instance. ye i might drop 'hardline shutdowns' sometimes but its long for writing disclaimers after everything.

anyway seems like u agree with me (ur words) so sn.

good game well played btw

i know u think ur slick with comments like

"seasoned fans will recognise of course that yes i am simultaneously using both realness and popist sticks to beat everyone itt with"

im a fan of them tekkers as well

"feel really bad for trilliam that all the major deep tech players seem to keep falling for these popular falsehoods rather than pursuing the one true path of rustic artisanal and definitely not contrived ruff sqwad 2002 playstation beats"

u get my angle wrong then i try correct u n im projecting? cool

What do you think of strange static's rep in this regard trilliam, they seem to be getting similar jimi-style "oh now this is the exciting deep tech I was waiting for!" reactions from those quarters.

As I was saying above I find it a bit odd that that momentum is building around Massien since it applies to so few of his tunes really (though I don't disagree it's happening).

Would be more interested in a secret history of deep tech "future beats" anyway, there a lot of fitting tunes that i haven't seen people talk about (maybe I'm just missing the convos) e.g.

https://soundcloud.com/topshelfmaterial/limitless-retrosynths-firecracker

Though actually Top Shelf is HM's label isn't it? Maybe that's a bad example.