Does 'I Missed the Bus' count as a deep cut?
― MikoMcha, Friday, 16 January 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure I still remember 2/3 of the lyrics to the first kriss kross album :o
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
2/3rds of the lyrics are iggidy tbf
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
true
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
shit lex you haven't heard "i missed the bus"?? classic
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
this is off a later album 2nd or maybe 3rd but anyway they did g-funk warren g vibe pretty good w/redman too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck5lYs9OZXA
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
that's the 'pls listen to my demo' by epmd loop i think?
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/9570-rae-sremmurd/
SJ: Patrón and orange juice. Every meal I eat I be like, "Can I get some orange juice?"SL: Especially breakfast, man. Pulp is the best, for the record. You get to chew the little pieces.SJ: I just swallow that shit.
― (extremely quan voice) My Lifestyle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
this is pretty great too, w/brat & aaliyah
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQHhoQOHXdo
Picking up a dollar copy of this CD is going to be my highest priority this week
― Evan R, Friday, 16 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
The Kris Kross CD I mean. Those tracks kind of remind me of Black Sheep's Nonfiction
― Evan R, Friday, 16 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
kris kross were dope smh
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Rae Sremmurd is more like Young and Restless imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD6hfzUbKtA
― (extremely quan voice) My Lifestyle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
Bars on a Cadillac Brougham!
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Seriously, its such a better metaphor than the basic bitch KRIS HAHA REMEMBER ALL THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED TO LORI BETH DENBERG AMIRITE KROSS metaphor since Young and Restless were like sing-song melodies on top of the hardest Southern music at the time but w/e
― (extremely quan voice) My Lifestyle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
I guess Kris Kross were actually famous, so I take back my snark
I'm in a pissy, spiteful mood today, ILX and I'm sorry I took it out on you
― (extremely quan voice) My Lifestyle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
not really a metaphor but ok
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
sing-song melodies on top of the hardest Southern music
there are maybe a couple other basic surface similarities you're overlooking that don't have anything to do with the music
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
xpost hope you feel better whiney :)
anyway now i've got "b stands for broncos bass BMW beat bangles and a pair of bars" in my head all day
feelin this later period kriss kross
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
hahaha clickhole in the same lori beth denberg internet funk as me today apparantly
http://chimg.onionstatic.com/6989/16x9/1300.jpg
― (extremely quan voice) My Lifestyle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Weirdly, Kriss Kross' most enduring piece of influence is that they did the source of "June 27th"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPTSHv4AQUw
― The Reverend, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
the all-white look is pretty dope on that album cover
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
they did the source of "June 27th"!
via detour through a Texas classic!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtAxMpfy1uQ
― onlydarkness.com, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
or shit maybe June 27 is just the Kriss Kross!! anyway Knocking Pictures off the wall is classic
― onlydarkness.com, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
These guys are super charming and endearing even when they're being kind of gross and they really know their way around a great vocal hook, so it's a shame they're anchored to such boring beats because I find this album a massive slog even though I basically approve of them.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
"June 27" predates "Knocking Pictures Off the Wall" by several years.
― The Reverend, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
naw, the beats on this album are A+
― The Reverend, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
i don't get how these detail-packed beats are boring
― lex pretend, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
spare me the details
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
I only listened to the two tracks linked to the pfork review but they sounded pretty spare to me. "No Type" is basically just the piano at the beginning and then autotuned/reverbed-vocal + snare/claps.
also lol at the terrible last line of that review btw
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
echoing piano, the stuttering bass, the piano bit really only hits on chorus
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
the initial bit, that is
the beats are cool, it sounds really nice and pro altogether from a production standpoint imo
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
I watched a bit of an interview they did with Peter Rosenberg on Youtube because I was curious about what Swae Lee's speaking voice sounded like. Early on he told them people have been calling the the 2015 Kriss Kross and asked how they felt about it. Not only did they seem to take it as a compliment, they kinda seemed like they didn't see how it wouldn't be a compliment. I thought that was cool.
― JRN, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
Ha I swear I read something else where they were really tired of the comparison.
― The Reverend, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
that was when people were comparing them to Christopher Cross
― example (crüt), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
xp Could be! That could even be why they reacted the way the did. Rather than fight it, they just act like it's a favorable thing and move on.
At 1:35:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq1vJ6rcU3o
― JRN, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
They're full of detail, the consistency of tempo just bores me shitless, I keep wanting more momentum and bounce.
Like, it's fine, I recognise this stuff isn't for me and I have no right to dictate what it 'should' be like, I just don't want to listen to it, which is a shame because I like these guys and would like to hear them in other rhythmic contexts.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
haha wut http://instagram.com/p/x7fj_rCi1y
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
Matt DC in still not understanding cut time shock. Like in what world is "No Flex Zone" anything other than full of bounce and momentum?
― The Reverend, Friday, 16 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
Dude I only studied music for fifteen years, I know how cut time works. It's just that other rhythmic choices made on a lot of double-time trap beats (chiefly when the bass hits, and a general lack of syncopation outside the hi-hats) mean I *hear* them as slow rather than fast. Like one of those pictures that are designed to look like two different things to two different people. That's why I'm framing this as "I know this isn't for me" rather than "why are you all listening to this bullshit?". In general a really technically great MC can make me forget this but the more nonchalant or goofy the vocals the more my brain goes back to default.
Actually I fuck with No Flex Zone (and elsewhere I also like Hookah and Lifestyle so I'm not totally immune to stuff in this vein), I just don't want to hear it in the context of seven or eight other tracks taking a very similar approach (the old difference between disrupting a groove vs being the groove again).
I keep meaning to start a thread about how people respond differently to the same rhythm or physicality in music because it comes up a lot but often it's not worth the derail.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 17 January 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link
Basically (and without wanting to get all maths and physics about it) if the bass is only hitting every four or even eight beats, and there's minimal syncopation in other areas, I'm going to hear it as a slow and draggy 4/4 rather than a fast 2/2.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 17 January 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link
Haha it's an interesting area though, for sure, although I tend to frame it in terms of dancing -- e.g. I was born in '87 & my peer group learned to bump&grind in middle-school; I have noticed many 90s babies lack this skill, but are much more comfortable getting busy to 4-on-the-floor eurotrance stuff that makes me confused & awkward (when I was a kid & Alice Deejay or w/e came on we either did the "Jump Around" dance or, at best, badly pantomimed glowsticking)
― Eman Srebmud (bernard snowy), Saturday, 17 January 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link
sremmurd is slow of course, but not draggy, there's so much space the way they emphasise the offbeat making it hang in the air for a second. in no flex zone it's built into the hook, the pause between 'flex....zone' is delicious, it changes the phrasing, I love it. the bass is more like a diving board to get it airborne, badoinging underneath.
― ogmor, Saturday, 17 January 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
the kick drum on "No Flex Zone" is some fantastic syncopated shit
― some dude, Saturday, 17 January 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
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this is very interesting thank u, u shd start that thread
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
otm, appreciate your insights, Matt
― valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 17 January 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
I encourage you to start that thread, Matt!
(and elsewhere I also like Hookah and Lifestyle so I'm not totally immune to stuff in this vein)
fwiw, neither of these songs are half-time. 95/89 bpm respectively
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link