I don't know if it's necessarily all age thing though
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
yeah i don't think there are 50,000 40 year olds out there running to best buy to cop the new joey badass album
in fact i would bet it's mostly kids
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:37 (nine years ago) link
the thing is, if you appeal to rap fans who listen to mixtapes, then your fanbase is people who are used to getting a lot of rap music without paying for it. if your fanbase feverishly fetishizes a memory of peeling cellophane off of Get Rich Or Die Trying, they might more likely make a purchase.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link
not that i necessarily think the majority of Bada's fanbase is old enough to have GRODT memories, i'm just saying in general
how about j cole & badass appeal to a richer (& whiter) audience ?
― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link
i'm not really convinced their fanbase is so much whiter than rappers who wouldn't get that tossed at them tbh
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:21 (nine years ago) link
'richer' is the main argument here.
― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:25 (nine years ago) link
So richer non whites?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:36 (nine years ago) link
how about j cole & badass appeal to a richer (& whiter) audience ? --ANU (sisilafami)
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― uncle banmee who can remember his live posts (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link
Saw tons of social media love from nba/nfl stars on the j cole album. Still seeing it
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link
whether someone plunks down $10 when one of their fav rappers drops an album is far more about cultural habits than it is about who's "rich"
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:09 (nine years ago) link
Lupe gonna do twice as much next week, see you all then for this thrilling argument!
― uncle banmee who can remember his live posts (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:14 (nine years ago) link
nah Lupe came out the same week as Badrap$$ and sold less!
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link
Lupe album is way better than the badass one. Bout half good I think
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:39 (nine years ago) link
cole is an established radio star, he doesn't count
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
Lupe album has higher highs (opening song is Shipbait) and lower lows. Bada$$ is a solid rappy rap album
― uncle banmee who can remember his live posts (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:01 (nine years ago) link
haha you mean the 8-minute second track? i liked the album more often than not but my attention definitely wandered during the long tracks.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:05 (nine years ago) link
Lupe def trying some different things which i appreciate but yah way too many dud hooks and such.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link
Al otm it's about who sees themselves as album-buyers
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:20 (nine years ago) link
Badass selling doesn't surprise me. He had hype, a fanbase and an album that delivered what his audience wanted to hear. I'm more worried about Sremm numbers. But then again, they've been around for less than a year and there are obv more hits to come on the album as long as they're actually pushed. No need for them to go "experimental" and get dropped by the end of the year, I hope.
― longneck, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:50 (nine years ago) link
" whether someone plunks down $10 when one of their fav rappers drops an album is far more about cultural habits than it is about who's "rich" "
right, but your cultural habits might be a result of your socioeconomic status.
― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link
" So richer non whites? "
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― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link
This has been a real tour de force of completely baseless sociology
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:25 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKN2Z6_ogDQ
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:38 (nine years ago) link
This new demographic of rich white ppl over 40, NBA players, and President Obama's daughters is powerful in hip hop
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link
rae sremmurd were completely unknown this time last year, it's not surprising at all that they sold what they did
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
Two new Metro Thuggin songs!
Only learned of them bcz the tracks poll. Good stuff.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:23 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah. i think it's more illustrative that Future sold about the same amount the first week after 2 straight years of blanketing the airwaves.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
two fairly unheralded tech n9ne and atmosphere new albums last year sold 35K and 25K respectively first week
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
Tech N9ne is a pretty good example of strengthening your retail numbers by releasing albums the way other rappers release mixtapes. E-40 too, really.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
how much of it is a mentality of "they're on the radio, they're clearly doing fine and don't need my money" vs "i should support this independent artist whom i love"?
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
tech n9ne and atmosphere also sort of cultivate their own loyal audiences in the same way ICP does, atmosphere has a big 30K ppl festival every summer where they bring in big acts and then headline it, gathering of the yuppalos kinda deal
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
lol
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
was pulling representative spotify tracks for both artists and was shocked by atmosphere's play numbers: 1.5 mill listens for his 2014 single on an album i didn't see discussed on ilx once.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
haha wait so all i have to do is say "Papoose" and you add one of his songs to the 'official' thread Spotify playlist? this is gonna be fun
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
Lol
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
not quite. It's only if it contributes to the conversation and provides context
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Since maybe 65% of the music we talk about is actually on spotify won't it just confuse that process
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
nah.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
let me contribute to this conversation, deej. to put this idea in proper context, for every Fonzworth Bentley who may have limited amounts of music available on Spotify, we'll likely mention several artists like MC Chris or Vanilla Ice who have most or all of their catalog streaming.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
is spottie still doing his list?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
rolling CORP low bar just to appear hip to teens thread 2015
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
i gotta get on this spotify shit
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
so fn annoying to read ilx without it
https://soundcloud.com/mctreeg/mc-tree-g-dont-een-kare
this is hard AF
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
i liked the EP a lot
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah tree continues to release quality
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link
flopson def get on that spotify
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
Hey forks is that song on spotify
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Vic Spencer's tape is out in 2 days, til then here are two dope Tree/Vic Spencer songs ppl slept on mostly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX3I1r8hPXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efsab-30F1w
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link