opening song quote from peter fonda btwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wild_Angels
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
quite possibly by way of Primal Scream!
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
shit that song is hot
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
i didn't know she's from New Orleans. feeling the Mardi Gras Indians samples.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
She's playing in London in June. Bought tickets the instant I saw they were onsale.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
Just got back from a holiday and listened to blackheart again for the first time in a couple weeks after listening to it non-stop before that, I don't think an album has affected me this much in years, really stunning.
― kruezer2, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
New video for Projection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5mHMEdTI6g
― Jeff W, Monday, 16 March 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
Goldenheart is one of my favorite albums from the last few years. I haven't heard much of the new album yet, but wow, 'Projection' is great as to be expected.
― lowlytootle, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 06:29 (nine years ago) link
As much as I generally share in the enthusiasm for the new Kendrick album, I can't help contrasting the deserved hype for that and Black Messiah with how little attention Blackheart has gotten. (With a few worthy exceptions.) There haven't been two great modern R&B concept albums in the last three months, there have been three. I know she's not as big a solo name and wasn't as anticipated as D'Angelo or Kendrick, but I think the album belongs in that company.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 05:50 (nine years ago) link
quite possibly by way of Primal Scream! (by way of Mudhoney)
― 2-chords, a farfisa organ and peons to the lord (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 March 2015 06:11 (nine years ago) link
There haven't been two great modern R&B concept albums in the last three months, there have been three.
four because i'd absolutely put jazmine sullivan's reality show up there with them in terms of songwriting, if not self-consciously out-there production/arrangements
blackheart is the best by miles but what can you do, it's not about its quality that it's not in that conversation
― lex pretend, Sunday, 22 March 2015 07:05 (nine years ago) link
The Jazmine Sullivan album is great but doesn't feel high concept in the way that the other three are.
Otherwise, I just want to catalogue amazing *moments* in this record, because its attention to detail is just jawdropping. The bit where the bottom just drops out of Titans and there's a couple of minutes of ambient drift before Warriors is astonishing. Also, in the penultimate chorus of Phoenix, at the point when she sings "all rise", there's the sound of something crashing to earth.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link
We should avoid praising albums for how Important they are.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:10 (nine years ago) link
Importance is slippery, but I think worth talking about -- if only to broaden the notion of what counts as important. (e.g., I was glad "You Don't Own Me" was given so much credit for importance in the Lesley Gore obits.) I don't love Blackheart because it's important, I love it because it blows my mind and sounds amazing on the stereo. But I do also think it's important, and oughta be recognized as such.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link
I wasn't looking at you, tipsy, but at the suspicion that Sullivan's album is good but lacks the marquee value of D'Angelo or Kendrick Lamar's. btw listen to it!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:36 (nine years ago) link
Haha I was just thinking that I need to. I will!
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link
I didn't say it wasn't important, I said it wasn't high-concept.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2015 13:33 (nine years ago) link
reality show / blackheart / black messiah / to pimp a butterfly all amazing high-concept albums (reality show more subtly so) that i love and it's a shame that both jazmine and dawn aren't getting the kind of broad critical raves that D and Kendrick are.
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
Jazmine and Dawn are getting ignored by many critics. Dawn, in large part part because for some reason some media sites act as if they can't find a smal indie project like hers; and I guess Sullivan is somehow just cursed with being r'n'b and not "high concept" "indie/artsy" r'n'b . But you all know that.
Some of that attention for the likes of D'angelo and now Lamar almost makes me want to be contrarian and ignore both of them for just being crit-bait. Former Voice writer Greg Tate who doesn't do much writing these days, suddenly penning a Lamar review in Rolling Stone seems typical (and I have long loved Tate's writing)-- jazz elements check; spoken word check; P-funk aspects check; socio-political lyrics check. I bet he likes the Sullivan one too, or would if he heard it, but will anyone let him write about it without high concept aspects or retro signifiers?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 23 March 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link
That's what I was getting at in my post, but let's be clear: Kendrick Lamar draws clicks, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 March 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
Sadly true.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
Agreed -- and btw having caught up on the Jazmine Sullivan album, I am totally on board with it, great record. Even in a perfect world, the D'Angelo and Kendrick albums have some built-in hype generators that are going to eclipse a lot of other worthy things. It's just jarring that so much of what's lauded about those two -- ambition, adventurousness, musicianship, personal vision, sheer talent -- is also true of the Dawn/Jazmine albums that you'd hope there would at least be a little more notice.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
#BlackWomenVisionariesMatter
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
I love Dawn's album but it feels diffuse in a way that Kendrick's doesn't. I listen to it way WAY more than D'Angelo, though.
― DJP, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
built-in hype generators
well it's exactly these that don't get interrogated, isn't it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
The fact that #ATellTaleHeart is so quiet/nmastered means I can rly only listen to it in bed at night, which is maybe actually to its advantage
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:48 (nine years ago) link
*u
A very underrated record even in the context of Dawn's discography IMO
― Tim F, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link
It's gorgeous so far. Listened to DJP's playlist off the Kendrick thread and fell for it hard enough to want to listen to everything chronologically
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link
you know, I've never actually heard it
― DJP, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link
(A Tell Tale Heart I mean, I've heard all the songs I listed on the Kendrick thread lol)
― DJP, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link
a tell tale heart is amazing but i would return to it so much more if the sooooound quaaaaaality was proper
― lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
http://www.datpiff.com/Dawn-Richard-A-Tell-Tale-Heart-mixtape.198526.html
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 April 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
There's a sexy sense of fun on Tell Tale Heart (like on Hey, Vibrate, Biggest Fan) which I kinda miss on what's followed, great as it is
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 12:03 (nine years ago) link
*Starts a kickstarter for a proper remastering of a Tell Tale Haert*
― 龜, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 12:04 (nine years ago) link
Yes pls. A cpl of tracks're actually kinda disconcerting to listen to w the way the levels peak/fade
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjgpZSmUVw
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link
<iframe width='460' height='259' src='http://cache.vevo.com/assets/html/embed.html?video=QMGR31508582&autoplay=0' frameborder='0' allowfullscreen></iframe>
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link
(or however Vevo embeds work with BB code)
That's a vid for Calypso btw.
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1ZtAo31J4
― 龜, Friday, 1 May 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link
Thank you!
― Jeff W, Friday, 1 May 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link
"adderall/sold" prob my soty
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
yeah, could be. the autotune acapella into guitar gets me every single time
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 May 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
This ain't rock'n'roll…
http://uk.complex.com/music/2015/05/dawn-richard-new-song-premiere-genocide?utm_campaign=musictw%2Bsocialflow%2B05%2B2015&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
This ain't Dawn Richard any more either, apparently.
― Jeff W, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah i'm kinda scared of her working more with the fade to mind crew tbh. "honest" is really good but i fear them overly influencing her sound/aesthetic
― j. winters (josh), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
that ship has sailed
― r|t|c, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
she's working with fade to mind crew? Fuck. And the triangle... Still love her, tho, but this Isn't good news. At all.
― Nourry, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Apparently "Calypso" is very ~~divisive~~ among her fans.
― The Reverend, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
dawn richards is not someone who i would second guess artistically right now; she's driving in her own lane new song is interesting, but very much a demo
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 May 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, May 4, 2015 2:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the song or the video? always liked the song in the context of the album, think it stands out in a good way
― some dude, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 01:28 (nine years ago) link