TOOL - C/D!?

xxp: grunge?

average soulless radio grunge that all sounds the same

I suppose this makes sense if you think all grunge sounds like "Spoonman"

i like tool, but i think the deftones have eclipsed them as my "thinking man's guitar center" band of choice

i don't know why, i guess a slightly larger emotional range than tool, and chino's goth/new wave/post-punk vibe too

Traitor oh wait. (Both bands are great.)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1372/1104831475_63cbc05ddc.jpg?v=0

Bump for the Toolbaby.

That's a dope baby.

Gonna try to see them when they roll through Austin next time.

i hope they get back on the album bandwagon sooner than later. but i suppose another tour would suffice.

I think that's the only happy baby I've ever seen, no joke.

I can't speak for every Tool song, but this one is classic.

Saw them last night here in Sacramento: always surprises me how great Maynard still sounds, after 21 (!) years.

Jello Biafra's band opened (Guantanamo School of Medicine, I think?) - the drummer & bass player sat in for epic Lateralus session, which was pretty cool. Short setlist on paper, but they played for 2 and a half hours. Was a little disappointed at no Sober or Opiate on the setlist, but it didn't ruin my night or anything. As we were walking out someone was saying 'Wish Maynard wasn't hiding in the back in the dark'...and I thought, 'When is he ever not hiding?' I mean, even if he's up front, and he hasn't done that for a while I don't think, he's always in a wig or a catsuit or body paint. Oh and he was passing around a bottle of wine...guessing it's from the private stash, lol.

Honestly, as a concert venue Arco arena is a smoking crater of suck. Acoustics in there are awful.

He wore huge bunny slippers here in Austin a few weeks ago. And drank a bottle of wine by himself.

man I had forgotten what a massive tune "Sober" is

On the Lollapollooza tour in like 2003, he came out in a blond cornrow wig, and those horrible Adidas sweats with the button snaps down the legs.

I love this band, and I always thought as I grew up maybe I would get tirred of them. Hasn't happened yet. Blasting sober right now.

I got back into them this year. 10,000 Days was new to me. It's a funny album - mostly uninteresting except for this one massive song, "Wings for Marie"/"10,000 Days", which goes beyond anything they've done previously.

I suspect we'd have a new album by now if Maynard wasn't interested in doing ten million things at once. (Which I'm fine with -- do what makes ya happy.)

This is a band that 'real' music fans love to sneer at but I love 'em. Lateralus blew my mind when I was 15 so I'll always have a soft spot. I think 10, 000 days isn't as bad as a lot of people think (though not as good as Lateralus/Aenima obviously), but if they keep us waiting for a decade and release just more of the same I'll feel a little bit let down.

I suspect we'd have a new album by now if Maynard wasn't interested in doing ten million things at once. (Which I'm fine with -- do what makes ya happy.)

it's my impression from recent interviews that he's down to do another record, it's the rest of the band that has to finish composing it

anyway i revisited lateralus the other week and i still have it mostly memorized which i guess is a consequence of falling hard for this band at 12

What was disturbing for me, when I went back and reread it a few weeks ago, was discovering that I still remember almost every sentence in Spin's June 2001 Tool feature. Why would my brain have committed that to memory??

Ha! I think I've purchased exactly one copy of Spin in my life and it was that TOOL issue.

Yeah, it's the other dudes who take a long time, which makes sense, considering they're the ones writing and arranging all that stuff. Maynard I imagine is the last ingredient.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/03/tool-wins-multi-year-lawsuit-ramps-up-production-of-new-album/

Already? It hasn't been 10,000 days yet!

Wasn't a lawsuit behind the Lateralus delay too?

Two of them!

A legal battle that began the same year interfered with the band's working on another release. Volcano Entertainment—the successor of Tool's by-then defunct label Zoo Entertainment—alleged contract violations by Tool and filed a lawsuit. According to Volcano, Tool had violated their contract when the band looked at offers from other record labels. After Tool filed a countersuit stating that Volcano had failed to use a renewal option in their contract, the parties settled out of court. In December 1998 Tool agreed to a new contract, a three-record joint venture deal.[41][42] In 2000, the band dismissed their long-time manager Ted Gardner, who then sued the band over his commission on this lucrative agreement.[43]

Last summer, the band revealed one of the major reasons for the delay was a multi-million dollar lawsuit involving their insurance company suing them over “technicalities” in a copyright case

The Gaye estate can't win them all.

lol i didn't know ned liked 10,000 days so much at the time. i revisited it today and it turns out i haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate "rosetta stoned"

wish ilx had pre-covered it

I remember listening to it when it first leaked and thinking it was at least half-hoaxed, never got into that one at all

Wings for Marie is great. I never got into the rest. Rosetta Stoned is really bad.

yeah "wings for marie/10,000 days" is wonderful. so is "right in two." rest of it is ehhhhhhhhhh

Well you're all wrong. (Or something.) I was thinking about the album recently, probably just because they're still in this netherworld of 'well there are eight million sideprojects but...," and I admit I can't even remember "Rosetta Stoned" at this point. Lateralus might remain my general high point for the band but then again that hasn't changed for fourteen years now. (14!)

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I'm still Team Opiate EP & Undertow, although Lateralus and Aenima are great. I have no recollection of anything on 10,000 Days

I remember loving Aenima and being really disappointed at how dull and humourless Lateralus was by comparison

that was a common reaction. but i think 10,000 days tried to reemploy their sense of humor to their new knottier, proggier song structures, and the effect is even duller

I've only heard 10,000 Days once and wasn't impressed but it probably deserves another listen or too. I like the early stuff OK but Aenima and Lateralus are what I love Tool for.

Yeah Aenima seemed to hit the right spot and it was my intro to the band. Lateralus (IIRC) came out just as nu-metal was starting to saturate the market, and I remember the production being very much a part of that ilk, as in nu-metal filtered through prog structures. Aenima, to me, had more in common with industrial music; stuff like Ministry etc. I've not heard any other Tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SG41-MKTc

you're welcome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwWucCZpLg

you're still welcome

i revisited the tool catalog this weekend and tbh i don't like a lot of opiate and undertow at this point in my life

this point in your life totally sucks IMO

I mean, "Sober" and "Swamp Song" and "Intolerance" still super rule, is what I'm trying to convey here

Opiate, Undertow, Aenima and Lateralus are all great, 10,000 Days still sucks.

xp: also "Undertow" and "4 Degrees" btw

those are my two favorite tracks on the record

I'm with DJP when it comes to Tool, things went way downhill when they got that bass player who plays writes them awful pedal note sections where he plays too many open strings with a ton of phasing or flanging, bleargh.

I can do without an awful lot of Tool from all of their eras. I feel like there's so much filler there. But I'll listen to Opiate til I die.