Hey I'm King of The World, You Oughta Hear My Song, Come On & Measure Me, THESE ARE AT LEAST 10 MINUTES LONG - RESULTS ILM BALLOT POLL #58

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49T. The Orb - A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld (Loving You) - 5300 points | 6 votes
Duration: 18:49
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wow just scraped into the top 50, kinda surprising

I mean it isn't my favourite thing tbh but still

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48. Cerrone - Supernature - 5375 points | 7 votes
Duration: 10:20
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47. Charles Mingus - Haitian Fight Song - 5425 points | 7 votes
Duration: 12:00
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"supernature"! i voted for that one!

Two placings in a row for me. (The Orb & Cerrone)

I don't listen to the Ultraworld album that much these days but it will always have a special place in my heart as I remember my 19 year old self being absolutely blown away by it when it first came out.

Voted for Supernature. What a song and what an album cover.

Genesis + Soft Machine = cor you ppl like yer prog

supper's ready only #49? i am baffled. that is definitely top ten stuff. so varied, so creative, so premature.

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45T. Joanna Newsom - Emily - 5550 points | 6 votes | 1 #1 vote
Duration: 12:07
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Love that Genesis song, it's amazing it hangs together so well(same with "Battle Of Epping Forest"), but I never really got into that Soft Machine album in a big way, I want to try the earlier albums sometime.

joanna newsom? that must be a joke. the dullest music imaginable.

Boo on you. >=(

Eight of mine have shown up already, including "Supper's Ready." After a lifelong (and, for the most part, still ongoing) aversion to prog, SR blindsided me. At one point, I was listening to it twice a day, timing my drives to and from work so that I could hear the whole thing.

this thread is formidable and i thank everyone involved in it. sorry to be a pain, but does anyone know the title of that other thread, the 'not an epics' result thread? can't seem to find it.

Which thread was that?

THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58
STILL NOT AN EPICS POLL - VOTING THREAD, ENDS MARCH 28

How long do the images take to make? I've belatedly twigged there's a bit more to it than i first thought, e.g see the way the running time is picked out in multicolours on the Inner Life image, which is very cool.

Not more than 101- minutes per, but then that includes looking for YT and Spotify links and images.

Err, 10-15 minutes.

Yay for "Supernature" and "Haitian Fight Song", both incredible tunes by idiosyncratic geniuses within their respective genres, and both ahead of their time... I remember when I first heard the Mingus tune, I couldn't believe it was from 1957! Dude was doing things no one else had done before him, and no one has really managed to follow up either, such a unique artist he was.

I'm listening "Supper's Ready", and that one seems to go against the "no medleys" rule of this poll? Sounds like a bunch of separate tunes segued together rather than one tune.

wait it out tuomas

Which thread was that?

THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58
STILL NOT AN EPICS POLL - VOTING THREAD, ENDS MARCH 28

Hi, thanks for these. I'm looking for the one which was mainly single movement classical pieces? Tuomas curated it, maybe?

aw man, I can't believe I forgot to nominate 'Pithecanthropus Erectus', his most exhilarating '50s epic. I am not down with 'The Clown'.

"The Clown" didn't make the final results (yet -- though I'd be surprised if it did) -- "Haitian Fight Song" from The Clown LP did.

wait, nvm, #47 is 'Haitian Fight Song', which I voted for. I looked at the cover art and was baffled that 7 people had voted for 'The Clown'.

xpost - yeah, what Tarfumes said

voted for Emily!

the Mingus song i voted for hasn't appeared... yet

Ys isn't my favorite, but I generally love Joanna Newsom (after stupidly avoiding her for a long time because, on paper, she is decidedly Not My Thing) and "Emily" is a beautiful song.

Looking forward to checking out so much of this stuff that I've never heard before.

I hope this poll finds room for Van Morrison.

maybe showtime was having an intense negotiation with lynch and he pounded his fist and said Alright, I'll do it for less money if you agree to just one thing, boys, then slapped this on the table

http://i.imgur.com/y5bw9Os.jpg

two hours later lynch walked out to the parking lot and there was still no deal

sorry, wrong thread

twin epics

First time I've ever properly listened to Genesis and I really enjoyed that track.

But I'm resigned to the fact that only my King Crimson, VDGG and Godspeed picks have any chance in the rundown now because I feel like my black/avant-metal picks would have placed already if they would at all.

LASTLY I like the instrumental parts of Joanna Newsom but her voice wants to make me want to bang my head against the wall until all noise stops

Seriously if Newsom didn't have a voice that made me want to destroy all life Ys would likely be one of my favourite albums

For anyone who isn't into Newsom's voice on Ys, it does get more erm.. normal (?) on Have One On Me.

I forgot to vote in this pool, but Emily would have been my #1.

I'm listening "Supper's Ready", and that one seems to go against the "no medleys" rule of this poll? Sounds like a bunch of separate tunes segued together rather than one tune.

Well none of the pieces appear elsewhere and I do think that it all comes round very well in the end. I'm surprised it didn't place higher, really!

I'm looking for the one which was mainly single movement classical pieces?

classical nomination supplemental thread

chances of any of them getting a showing here are looking kind of slim

I feel kind of bad because I ended up cutting most of my classical noms for things I really hold dear, though what difference it would have made I don't know

I didn't expect to vote for "Emily" (I adore "Only Skin") but doing my due diligence, its beauty struck me. All these intricate melodic lines, with a lush, generous arrangement that, IMO, never gets too baroque, with so many sudden twists, it's a beautiful, enchanting labyrinth. So what if she sounds like a Muppet Bjork swallowed a frog.

Been listening to Moon in June and what do people get out of this? Sounds fairly tedious apart from the sad tinge in Wyatt's voice (as long as you don't pay attention to the lyrics, seems he is dissatisfied with life on the road and maybe a woman, not caring enough to decode any further) and the only time there is some music is with the violin or odd guitar sound threatening to break out from the proggy run - so much for jazz, the improv just feels constipated, Wyatt letting go in his voice just goes on to sound ugly - and for a guy whose voice is routinely described as beautiful he does let out the effects box on it. That can either come off as extra textures and play (Stevie Wonder) but here its some padding out at the end.

as long as you don't pay attention to the lyrics

use of childish register to invoke supreme nostalgia -> it's actually a folk song -> perhaps even a meditation upon losing one's idyllic pastoral childhood while trying to cling onto sophisticated urban youth -> it finds its resolution (after an instrumental flare-up you mistreat - "odd guitar sound" - there's no guitar here except for bass, and 'constipated' - it is all, all building up to the finale) in pure psychedelia, a barely-coherent surreal demented wonderland of timeshifted violins, weird drones, electronic effects and a sense of absolute paranormal calm

you're trying to rationalise the song as a muso would, but that isn't what you do with wyatt, he's not king crimson

imo, anyway

Actually this is v Crimson muso-like in that run, and pretty mannered sounding to me.

Yes, don't care if it's not convincing as jazz or improv, it's a bunch of guys in their early 20s who, in jazz terms, are amateurs. The important part (for me) is the song part, which has a beautiful flow and is put together so ingeniously. His singing for Soft Machine is nowhere near as good as in his solo career, I don't think he took singing seriously until much later, the words are just there to give Wyatt some noises to make with his mouth, as I've no doubt he himself would admit.

It should be said that most of this track was recorded by Wyatt himself, allegedly (alleged by Wyatt?) because the rest of the band refused to play on it - which I could believe of Mike Ratledge but not of Hugh Hopper - which shows, along with the next album, what he was up against. By the way, I prefer the BBC version, which all the band played on from start to finish and which has amusing lyrics penned especially by Wyatt.

There is guitar on it, played by Wyatt!

"odd guitar sound" - there's no guitar here except for bass

there was an odd treatment of [insert instr here] that sounded like the things I've heard ppl do with guitars.

The usual problems with prog jazz like this is that humourless muso quality. I do like Crimson at times because they actually allow for some chaos (or something that you wouldn't expect) when they get ppl like Jaime Muir in. When Moon in June just settles into that run after Wyatt stops going on its like watching Formula 1: cars going round a track with speed and little risk of crashes (or overtaking). Everyone sounding quite respectful of each other's spaces.

xp = ok so there is gtr on it.

I'm listening to it now, and Mike Ratledge's fuzzed up Lowrey always sounds good to me!

I don't think he took singing seriously until much later, the words are just there to give Wyatt some noises to make with his mouth, as I've no doubt he himself would admit.

By the way, I prefer the BBC version, which all the band played on from start to finish and which has amusing lyrics penned especially by Wyatt.

That version was cited above and his 'amusing lyrics' tend to support what you are saying - why change the lyrics if this is such an amazing meditation on something or other.

fine, maybe I missed some guitar; it's not a prominent instrument and it's possible to hear the song tens of times without noticing

the rest of my point stands, though - I simply can't see where you hear humourless muso turn-taking instead of a semi-structured ascent into the final chaotic dream - you're seeing it as jazz, but it's not jazz, it's if anything a form of post-rock during that build-up

it's psych, end of the day

its psych or post-rock, or is it just words?