it's psych, end of the day
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:09 (nine years ago) link
its psych or post-rock, or is it just words?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:12 (nine years ago) link
It is psych, sort of... really it's Robert Wyatt Music (whatever that is) with 'jazz' elements almost bolted on to give the musicians in the band (OK, Mike Ratledge) something to do, but I like those bits too. Just listening to the next track, there's a lot of Zappa in there.
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:17 (nine years ago) link
The usual problems with prog jazz like this is that humourless muso quality.
... and a stolid stodginess, but not this track! Try Soft Machine 4 for that.
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:23 (nine years ago) link
I said its prog jazz - there is a difference. xp = Obviously they've heard all the rock and jazz but (despite their apparent amateurish-ness) its a fairly convincing copy of progressive stuff I've heard (the dull bits). xp = lol. Might work if I hear this with the rest of Third.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:24 (nine years ago) link
The Genesis song is the cutest thing I've ever heard! Maybe Peter Gabriel is lovely after all.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:26 (nine years ago) link
If you can't hear the magic in this then fine, but accept it's there for some of us - also, don't extrapolate from a live version with extra lyrics the lyrical worthlessness of the original, you grand troll
How much prog jazz has squealing feedback and a bit where violins are pitched down then back up in post-production ffs
It is all going somewhere
I know you enjoy reducing me to squabbles, but this is too much! Too, too much! I shan't have it, not on this lovely sunny day!
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:31 (nine years ago) link
Its not about you.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:32 (nine years ago) link
I do suggest that maybe if you want magic, try the circus.
Or hit up Paul Daniels on youtube.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:34 (nine years ago) link
We watch in reverence, as Narcissus is turned to a flower. A flower.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:36 (nine years ago) link
Anyway, yeah, once Wyatt left, they became everything you accuse, but this is some classic English songwriting and psych wonder with some prog dudes roped in against their will to provide a bit of second-act conflict
Zippo's Circus is on Blackheath rn, MAYBE I'LL GO
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27i9LoNJshA
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:39 (nine years ago) link
:'O
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:45 (nine years ago) link
can't say i've noticed the guitar either, will listen out for it next time i play. re: the lyrics, in both versions he's referencing the circumstances in which the recording is taking place, so there is some continuity there (being alone in nyc/recording at the bbc). don't really see how the lyrical adaptation lessens the worth of the studio version. i like them both for what it's worth. reading up on it, the violin on the original was provided by a guy out of a uk improv unit that i've never heard of. wyatt used to sit in with them on occasion apparently.
― no lime tangier, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:47 (nine years ago) link
progge
― Albanic Kanun Autark (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 April 2015 10:48 (nine years ago) link
no lime tangier - got a name for the violin player?
re: the lyrics, in both versions he's referencing the circumstances in which the recording is taking place, so there is some continuity there (being alone in nyc/recording at the bbc). don't really see how the lyrical adaptation lessens the worth of the studio version.
Makes sense - just wrestling with this one now and speculating away..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link
There's not exactly a lot of guitar, but it's there from ca.1:30 to 2:00, though it's possible that it's speeded up bass guitar, although there's no actual bass guitar in the rest of the solo Wyatt bits. Similar 'guitar' appears on some tracks on "Rock Bottom"
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 11:01 (nine years ago) link
(xp) Rab Spall (no relation?)
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 11:02 (nine years ago) link
Aw yeah, you're right - I have that bit to mind now
It is so fleeting, just adds a bit of pastoral/folky/whimsical colour to the idyllic early stages of the music (before anguish can be properly confronted)
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 11:08 (nine years ago) link
Think I assumed that that was a bass guitar tbh, it's all fingerpicked notes
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link
Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule
― tangenttangent, Monday, 6 April 2015 11:20 (nine years ago) link
rab it is, of the amazing band... looks like the only evidence of their existence is one archival release
― no lime tangier, Monday, 6 April 2015 11:27 (nine years ago) link
As I said it could be, speeded up, it's not something a guitarist would have played, in much the same way that a lot of his keyboard playing is not what a 'proper' keyboard player (like Mike Ratledge, for instance) would play.(xp)
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 11:28 (nine years ago) link
it's a bunch of guys in their early 20s who, in jazz terms, are amateurs.
Not Elton Dean; he was a member of Keith Tippett's group prior to joining Soft Machine.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link
He doesn't play on that track though!
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link
ha, good point...and probably why I slightly prefer the Third tracks he's on.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 6 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/JqwlvdQ.jpg
45T. LCD Soundsystem - 45:33 - 5550 points | 9 votesDuration: 46:05YoutubeSpotify
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
45:33Duration: 46:05
You had one job, Murphy
― Karl Malone, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/yYkvRK6.jpg
44. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew - 5675 points | 6 votesDuration: 26:59YoutubeSpotify
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
xp I think you meant Muphry.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, April 6, 2015 5:27 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fucking flag posts, nine of them, volunteer please, put yourselves forward
― PORC EPIC SAVVAGE (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
Cool your jets, LJ, here comes the warm ambient.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8lsP46X.jpg
43. Brian Eno - 1/1 - 5725 points | 8 votes | 2 #1 votesDuration: 17:22YoutubeSpotify
i can live with brian eno! in fact i rather like him, even in ambient, non warm jet form
listening to the miles davis. it's pretty crazy eh
― PORC EPIC SAVVAGE (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
I believe 1/1 was my #1, or damn close
endlessly beautiful and listenable, co-written by Robert Wyatt!
one of the most calming pieces of music I know
― sleeve, Monday, 6 April 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
Agree
Haitian Fight Song also a favorite. Good work so far voters.
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
another note on 1/1, that duration is the CD version, original LP version is 14 minutes and change
― sleeve, Monday, 6 April 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
I voted for LCD Soundsystem. Sometimes I think it's the best thing he ever did.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 6 April 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8IRsKrW.jpg
42. Herbie Hancock - Chameleon - 5750 points | 7 votesDuration: 15:41YoutubeSpotify
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
... and on piano in the track in question, Robert Wyatt!
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
... oops, someone else just pointed that out.
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Probably the first 10+ minute song I ever loved.
― Eric H., Monday, 6 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
gf wanted to watch something, i wanted to keep listening to the poll, so we juxtaposed that orb song with a laurel and hardy
laurel and hardy >>> the orb
― PORC EPIC SAVVAGE (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
great poll, eight tracks of my ballot already placed, and without my vote they wouldn't have done so well. bitches brew would have only been #66. youth of america only would have been #92 instead of #52.
i am a big fan of brian eno but i never understood the appeal of music for airports. through hollow lands from before and after science did nail the aspect of aimlessness and neutrality of music so much better. how i love that piece.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
"Day of Radiance" is probably my Eno of choice.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/HLghV1U.jpg
41. Tortoise - Djed - 6000 points | 9 votesDuration: 20:57YoutubeSpotify
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
YES, phantastic piece!
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 April 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
Now your dislike of Joanna Newsom makes sense.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 6 April 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/m99YcXl.jpg
40. Cortney Tidwell - Don't Let Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson Objects In Space Vocal Mix) - 6050 points | 7 votesDuration: 11:54YoutubeSpotify
Yay Djed
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link