I really, really dislike Ultragrrl [edited title - mod]

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maybe tricia and sarah aren't myspace buddies but still it feels like the article exists to bring attention to sarah lewittin under the guise of defending her.

botero, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

chris ott's response in the comments section makes some interesting points, too.

botero, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

haha oh I agree that it shouldn't have been a cover story! but I also think the majority of the criticism of the piece boils down to "Ultragrrrl sucks, why did you write about her," which sort of proves the article's point. not that this is what Nabisco is saying.

Matos W.K., Monday, 19 March 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw "Chris Ott" and "interesting point" in the same sentence and went blind

Matos W.K., Monday, 19 March 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i know you can't read this but i am sorry about that :-\

botero, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, FFS, Matos, the journalist's admission that he/she can't substantiate something in print is just NOT an adequate substitute for, you know, actually substantiating it -- there's not much in this article that in any way explains, shows, or digs into how Ultragrrl hate is any different, greater, or more interesting than people on message boards hating the hell out of any random band, blogger, or other figure in the music world. (It's telling how she handwaves twice at the original title of this thread as some kind of proof of a wellspring of hatred, despite the title's being shot down within hours kinda maybe suggesting the opposite, and despite the fact that if violent ILM thread-naming were a barometer of public hatred, Alex in NYC alone would be responsible for vast conspiracies against everything from Shania Twain's t-shirt collection on down.)

Basically I think it's a fairly vacant angle she's taking here -- "in defense" -- and the fact that she's taken that angle gives her license to play advocate in certain senses, to portray Lewitinn as unfairly maligned not by proving it via journalism, but just by essayistic assertion, general handwaving, and even selective misrepresentation. (And so if she wasn't friends with her before, I'd say she is now, by definition.) So why the "in defense" angle? It seems like on one hand she's relying on the idea of a rabid mob to make Lewitinn seem important and worth reading about, as if without it we might conclude that she's just a well-known industry star who might not actually merit a Voice cover. And it seems on another hand like she's using the idea of this angry mob to evade writing a full straight feature and actually come out in support of brave sweet Ultragrrl. And then the only substantive explanation of Why People (Supposedly) Hate Ultragrrl comes in a quote from .... umm, her, herself.

So point being I think it's a really ill-conceived piece, for reasons having to do with Romano and reasons having to do with whoever decided this should be a cover feature -- it's just kind of pointless and depressing. I like Romano just fine and enjoy her usual role in the Voice and everyone I've ever heard talk about her personally seems to think she's a lovely person, so there -- still, this piece just seems ten different levels of wrong to me, and not even because I hate Lewitinn or something.

nabisco, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, xpost!

nabisco, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Also haha yeah, I am weirded out by what I'm about to say, but Ott is vastly OTM about one thing, which says what I mean here in a lot fewer words:

you have essentially written a cover story lionizing budding music magnate Sarah Lewitinn's resilience in the face of nasty blog comments. Others have noted, with varying incredulity, how totally ridiculous this is.

nabisco, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, you can't do Hamlet without Hamlet.

Chris Ott, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, I can't believe it took me this long to pick up on the "Bigmouth Strikes Again" reference with that iPod!

nabisco, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

http://joebrower.com/PHILE_PILE/PIX/FR/screw_ball.jpg

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Not to revive too much here, but I have to note the following irony: the most critical letter printed about the Ultragrrl cover story came from a guy who once somehow managed to get the Voice to run a story he wrote about a side project of a band he used to be in.

nabisco, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

IRL CONSEQUENCES

deej, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Chemical Romance?

stevienixed, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

FACT: wrinklepaws hates Ultragrrl

am0n, Thursday, 5 April 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

am0n, whats his opinion on Perpetua?

deej, Thursday, 5 April 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

He think's he's fluxtastic.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 5 April 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

isn't he going by UltraPerrrp now?

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

i forget she is a little bit hot

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 15 December 2007 07:42 (sixteen years ago) link

she looks like trayce in that last pic.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 December 2007 07:45 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 15 December 2007 07:49 (sixteen years ago) link

would not smash

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 December 2007 08:27 (sixteen years ago) link

of course, she looks like you in drag

Crêpe, Saturday, 15 December 2007 08:36 (sixteen years ago) link

wham bam

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 December 2007 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link

not even close

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 December 2007 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link

doesn't she just sort of pick bands who are tipped by nme or whatever anyway, and then go "hey guyz, there's this hot noo band..."

pc user, Saturday, 15 December 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw, she looks happy.

Also, it's probably sad that one of the first things i noticed was her Burned-on-iTunes-using-default-blue-CD-cover-template CD-R scrapbook in the second pic.

Mackro Mackro, Saturday, 15 December 2007 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

She looks a little like my sister-in-law's partner.

HI DERE, Saturday, 15 December 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

that was a really shitty article

omar little, Sunday, 16 December 2007 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Hello…
Below is the typical PR note… basic gist: There’s a cover of Air’s “Sexy Boy” in a new AXE commercial… links for posting below.
xo Sarah Lewitinn / Ultragrrrl

Hi!

Today, AXE is set to launch its new tempting fragrance Excite with a television commercial featuring an exclusive cover of Air’s 1998 classic, “Sexy Boy,” by the choir group The Fallen Angels. Here’s the link to the video and the song:

Watch the commercial:
:30 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J6ie2ZiCGI
:60 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qskcmabLuQ

Hear the song in full:
Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/axeexcite/the-fallen-angels-sexy-boy
iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sexy-boy-single/id410813104

Would you be interested in posting this to your site? Let us know if you’d like to sample the new products as well.

For More Information about AXE and to follow AXE in the social spaces:
AXE on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AXE
AXE on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/AXE
AXE on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/AXE
http://www.theaxeeffect.com/

About AXE Excite:
Developed by world-renowned fragrance experts, AXE Excite combines a seductive blend of gourmet notes such as caramel, coconut and hazelnut, and evolves into a lingering edgy aroma that tempts the senses.

Excite is available at most food, drug and mass retail outlets for a suggested retail price of:

* $4.99 for Deodorant Bodyspray, Deodorant Stick and Antiperspirant Invisible Solid
* $3.99 for Shower Gel



THANKS!!!

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Thank you. That is all.

bang-proof-bling-mans (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 February 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, there it is, up on the site.

Send the smellies round then!

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Somewhere between cheery and strained. But surprisingly cheery.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I used to hang with Jay Z at work, would hang with courtney love for days at a time, got kissed by members of the smiths, felt like i belonged, got kidnapped by the killers (almost famous-style), had bands play my apt, danced & laughed til i fell, watched sunrises with boys i fell in love with, felt loved by friends, felt loved by music, and survived. My days and nights were never ending.

ok a 31-year-old get all teary-eyed about 'the good old days' is bumming me out

markarles (some dude), Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I was thinking that 32 sounded a little young to turn into a middle-aged homebody.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

it happened to me, and i've never even been kissed by jay z!

scott seward, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

^ this

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm 31 and vaguely intended to out tonight but now it's about an hour before I'd need to get on the bus and I'm feeling fairly content to sit on the sofa and do nothing of any use or interest instead, exactly as has happened every other time I thought I might go out over the past year. And I've never been kissed by Jay-Z or any members of the Smiths.

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

i'm 30 and definitely an old homebody in a lot of ways but if i sat around thinking about how much more i "felt loved by friends" a few years ago, jesus

markarles (some dude), Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

You are all mere babies.

I completely forgot about her. It always creeped me out how much she looks like Brian Molko.

ENBB, Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

(xp) true. it sounds like she was actually pretty unhappy at the time in which she "belonged" and her "days and nights were never ending" too.

I can relate to that romanticised view of former stressful, busy, pretty shitty life phase too, though admittedly on a much less glamorous scale...

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

its like being a former child star or a former pop star. the phone doesn't ring like it used to...

she says in that online chat thing that she wanted to die/kill herself when she ran a label. i didn't even know she had run a label. all was not sweetness and light in utragrrrrrl world.

scott seward, Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

well i think there's something to be said for the notion that it must really be psychologically--i don't want to say "painful" because who knows--altering to be such an "it" person for a brief period of time and coasting on something that really isn't going to last, and then going back down to earth. i'm sure it's weird to know that your apex of fame has come and gone (though i guess it's only harmful if you care too much about that fact!)

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this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

me irl

markers, Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

like being a successful athlete or - hey - a rock star, figuring out what to do w/the rest of yr life is a bitch

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. I really disliked her writing back then. Now though, I can't help liking her.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 30 January 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to read more interviews with hip people five years after anyone who once had, stopped giving a shit about them.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 30 January 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link


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