Acts whose debut album is an afterthought in their overall discography

“midnight oil would be another one. unless you are australian.”

The debut wasn't released outside of Australia until years later (didn't come out in the US until 1990), so yeah, it's far more likely that Australians had heard/heard of it.

So do people think Head Injuries is the first or


I didn't read the first post, just the thread title.

It’s really silly to take umbrage if you don’t bother to read the thread btw

Blimey, that really GG Allin?

wikipedia says that, after his success, Luther Vandross bought the rights to the two albums released by his band Luther to stop them being re-released, is this a common thing?

I think Mac Rebbenack went into the studio for Gris Gris thinking that he would get somebody else in to do vocals and use the name Dr John but both wound up falling to him. I thought Babylon was at least a year later.
I also thought Walk On Gilded Splinters was a hit, or was that just for other people?
Certainly one of my all time favourite lps anyway.

Marsha Hunt, I think.

The Beta Band

the band's definitely revisited it live (they just did "box full of letters" at their last show!), and it's not a total embarrassment by any means, but kinda surprised Wilco's AM hasn't come up just for being so gestative, especially considering it's in grissos screen name.

― da croupier, Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As you point out, this one hasn't been orphaned like some of the other candidates on thread. I wanna say the band played the whole album live awile back when they were doing a run of album concerts. And like the Shania debut, this one became a staple of mid-price CD bins when Wilco got buzzy around '99.

I do think that Alice Cooper's "Pretties For You" is the front-runner here.

Current 93's "Lashtal" kind of fits, except that it was a 12" rather than a full album.

Jane's Addiction.

has 'Jane Says' on it, disqualified

i do think calling Please Please Me/Meet The Beatles an "afterthought" is silly, especially considering where the bar's been generally set on this thread, but i'm sorry if it really upset you to hear that - that wasn't my intent

― da croupier, Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw, Meet wasn't their US debut; it was Introducing...the Beatles on Vee-Jay, which shared its tracklisting with Please, Please Me (minus "Please, Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" on initial pressings).

xp yeah but tbh I've never heard that album, the one everyone knows is the Nothing's Shocking version isn't it?

Jane's Addiction always played a few songs from that first record live though, even on the recent tours

does anyone listen to the first guided by voices album? it ain't no bee thousand and it was even put out by Sony in the U.K. Sony is not very lo-fi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fhnHu6d6I

to heck with the who, r.e.m. rule!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsPa7hnm1ss

The first "James" album?

It's not "Sit Down" and other anthems...

john lennon - two virgins
george harrison - wonderwall music

― fact checking cuz, Sunday, May 10, 2015 5:32 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and arguably - paul mccartney - the family way OST (1965)

also:

Nilsson - Spotlight on Nilsson
Neutral Milk Hotel - On Avery Island
Bee Gees - The Bee Gees Sing and Play 14 Barry Gibb Songs
Stevie Wonder - The Jazz Soul of Little Stevie

What about: everyone who started out by self-releasing tapes for friends/family like Banco De Gaia and Boards Of Canada?

Explosions In The Sky - How Strange, Innocence

Future Sound of London - Accelerator (ok ok, there's a second release with that Papua New Dead Can Dance thing on it)

Nomeansno - Mama

what about: everyone whose career had an upwards commercial arc of any kind at all

does anyone listen to the first guided by voices album? it ain't no bee thousand and it was even put out by Sony in the U.K. Sony is not very lo-fi!

no one listens to any of the first four gbv albums!

and if that first one was ever put out by sony, that would have been a reissue many years later. sony was not interested in gbv when they put that record out. nor was anybody else.

all of them, however, were collected in gbv's first box set, box, which probably disqualifies the whole lot per the rules of this thread.

i'm just going by this:

http://www.discogs.com/Guided-By-Voices-Devil-Between-My-Toes/release/6583697

but maybe it doesn't exist. i dunno...i was just surprised to see that when i looked up the title. (couldn't actually remember the title of the first GBV album...)

hmmm, yeah, that does not seem even remotely feasible.

anyway, the real gbv afterthought is the ep forever since breakfast, which was the first actual thing they put out and which they themselves seem to hate.

some scruffy the cat vibes on forever since breakfast...

yeah i can buy that. i've always heard some uncomfortably close rem vibes.

The Stone Roses - s/t

Metallica's long forgotten debut "Sloughing Through the Muddy Banks of the Petaluma River in Search of My Tennis Racket"

The Stone Roses - s/t

this is a joke right

Neutral Milk Hotel - On Avery Island

This feels like a different category--the solid debut that is ultimately a warm-up for great second album. Although maybe it does fit the "basically ignored by the vast majority of their fans" criteria.

does anyone listen to the first guided by voices album?

Yup!

The Stone Roses are a strange one, because they made an album with Martin Hannett in 1985 which wasn't released until 1996 against the wishes of the band. Two tracks were put out as a single at the time though: 'So Young'/'Tell Me'. A lot has been written about Second Coming over the years, but I believe even less people enjoy Garage Flower.

So try The Rolling Stones. Featuring one Jagger/Richards composition, and nothing anybody ever hears on the radio.

― Vic Perry, Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:06 AM (18 hours ago)

this fits the thread perfectly and it's why i prob listen to this more than any other stones album these days. no overplayed songs, nothing i've ever had a chance to get sick of, but everything still sounds wonderful.

i wouldn't say a critically-acclaimed album that hit #1 in the UK and featured a Top 5 single that made their '95 stadium setlist perfectly fits the thread

they also did "route 66" in 2012, "I Just Want To Make Love To You" in the '00s, etc

there might be ten beach albums you'd buy before Surfin' Safari but damn Surfin' Safari is still a big part of the story

Accelerator is a great album IMO. When Children Cry gets frequent plays at my house. The whole album is a slightly leftfield take on progressive house and early uk electronic styles. Anyway, it is probably forgotten by most fans so it fits in with the thread, just had to rep for it.

beach boys albums, i mean xpost

If debut EPs count, I'd add Ratt, the Bangles (who were still called the Bangs then I think), and White Zombie.

moody blues -- the magnificent moodies

― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 10 May 2015 20:55 (3 days ago) Permalink

methinks inclusion of a #1 hit ("Go Now") is a disqualifier

shit, what didn't hit #1 back then?

Although a much-maligned band after the mid '90s, the first Ocean Colour Scene album from 1992 surely fits the bill here? No big hits, nothing played live, hated/discounted by the general listening public, ignored by fans, ignored by the band, suddenly re-appeared in shops (albeit as a cut-price budget release) after the success of a second album in 1996 which pretty much everyone considers their "real" debut and band, fans and general listening public alike still continued to be indifferent towards it.

Does anyone from her existing fanbase care about any of the pre-2005 Robyn records? I've not heard them, but the impression I got was that she effectively hit the reset button on her career at that point.

Kraftwerk is obviously the best answer to this question though.

yeah, but the singer of "go now" left the band after that lp, and as far as i know they didn't make a habit of performing anything from their first album after his departure. and their current audience would be surprised that that's a moody blues song. and they totally changed their sound with days of futures past. but you know all that. whatevs.

does the album suck, though? I was gonna name it and totally forgot that "Go Now" was #1, but I haven't heard it, can't imagine it's very good

doesn't suck if you're into merseybeat type stuff.

for that matter cat steven's first lp and single were uk hits, just not here in the states.