"Weird Means Something You Never Heard Before": Rolling Jazz D-bag Thread 2015

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I've got the Newport set. The '66/'67 stuff is great; so is a short '69 set where Wayne Shorter didn't show up (though that's already been released on Bitches Brew Live). The '71 and '73 sets are the real meat, for me, though, especially the '71 band with Ndugu Chancler on drums; that lineup was only together for one European tour and is totally un-documented, except on bootlegs.

In other news, I went to Birdland for the first time on Sunday, to see a group of all Posi-Tone artists: tenor saxophonist Tom Tallitsch was the leader, joined by David Gibson on trombone, Mike DiRubbo on alto sax, Brian Charette on piano (he's usually an organist), Peter Brendler on bass and Mark Ferber on drums. All but Gibson played on Tallitsch's new album All Together Now, so that's what they were celebrating, but they played some interesting versions of rock songs that don't appear on the record - they adapted Fleetwood Mac's "Gold Dust Woman" in a cool bluesy way, and closed with a version of Frank Zappa's "Uncle Remus," which surprised me because I'd been talking to Charette about George Duke's '70s MPS albums before the set, and he recorded that tune on The Aura Will Prevail.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Kamasi Washington performs music from The Epic on Jazz Night In America. Starts at 9 Eastern, tonight:
http://www.npr.org/event/music/402062824/kamasi-washingtons-the-epic-in-concert?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20150527

dow, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link

"Askim": KW ripping holes in gutbuckets, amidst blissful strings, choir, with several drummers, a couple keyboardists, Thundercat's bass, others. Chat says one of the drummers set 30 mics, and sound is very clear.

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link

Turntables and samplers coming to the fore, drums more hip-hop now and then, live choral theme recurring (damn who was that trumpet soloist) Volcano

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link

Cool how the conga player, Tony Austin and other kit drummer, Miles Moseley on acoustic bass and the synth vamper come up with transitioning grooves behind soloing trombone, trumpet--and now keytar (Thundercat's back in there too).

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 01:56 (nine years ago) link

ballad about his grandmother, "Henrietta Our Hero," sung by Patrice Quinn--"Had no armor, no weapon, but a power"---with his father, Rickey Washington, on flute, and a cast of thousands rolling and out, with no overload. Contemplation's rhythm.

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link

Man, his father can play the hell out of the flute. This show will be posted tonight or tomorrow, says NPR host.

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:11 (nine years ago) link

This is running 'til 11 Eastern. And NPR's Patrick says they recorded over two hours more.

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

Brandon playing a very nasty electronic keyboard solo now, lots of brown and yellow/YOLO

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

from the Funkadelikized portion to this section, incl. Miguel's improvised string cues---"like Phil Jackson calling plays," as one of the participants observes in chat, now that he can see more than he did on stage---and Leon Mobley's hand drums-- what we used to call "Afro-Cuban" (is that still a thing) to more of a Pharoah-meets-Sun Ra interlude. Can see how this kind of intense derivation might be too much in a three-disc studio album, but works pretty well in this concert experience (will check album).

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link

Ascensionof voices, briefly! Will shut up now, they're almost through anyway.

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link

na ga liveblog this, but:
Frisell group, "Up and Down The Mississippi"
http://livestream.com/jazz/Bill-Frisell-Highway-61-Friday

dow, Saturday, 30 May 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link

I didn't want to use Amazon, so I went elsewhere, and every online store I checked (Best Buy, DeepDiscount, Ninja Tune, ImportCDs, Dusty Groove, Barnes & Noble) had the Kamasi Washington set on back-order. Nobody selling it on eBay, either. I finally found it at Grooves Inc., a German site I've been buying from a lot lately; got the Sonny Rollins Complete Live at the Village Gate 1962 set I've been talking about on Facebook (six CDs of material that became Our Man in Jazz) and the complete studio recordings of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet (so many alternate takes of "Mildama"!) from them. Anyway, good for Washington and Brainfeeder; they've obviously garnered a pretty sizable wave of attention for the album.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 30 May 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

I picked it up the other day in my local HMV for £12; £3 cheaper than Amazon.

Really impressed so far; enjoying disc three the most, perhaps.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 1 June 2015 10:58 (nine years ago) link

this Do the Math interview with Nicholas Payton is a really great read:

http://dothemath.typepad.com/dtm/interview-with-nicholas-payton.html

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

talks about coming up in New Orleans, good Brian Blade and Elvin Jones anecdotes, etc

this rang pretty loudly for me too:

I'm saying all White musicians who make a living playing Black music have a moral obligation to speak about racial injustice. By being silent on such issues, they are de facto supporting the supremacist and oppressive forces that enable privilege to them as White musicians while marginalizing people of color. And using Black culture to make financial gains without regard for the Black people who create it is racist.

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

I was just thinking today of how few white music stars have written songs criticizing the way police and prosecutors treat black people. "Hurricane" was one star taking up the cause of another, as was pointed out at the time of its release---but that's part of the point: even if he's got the means and acquires big name support, and the case gets thrown out, try., try again, if you've decided that you must make an example of him. The song covers the part of the process that had already happened by 1975, and of course he ended up spending decades in prison, despite the Madison Square Garden benefit, despite much long-term grassroots support thereafter. Not to say he was an angel, not to say he was even innocent, necessarily---but when the rest of the prosecution's case(s) fell apart, they went back to the race card: if nothing else, he was *motivated* to avenge the recent death of another black man, by killing whites. This argument was thrown out of court, and---despite any headline-grabbing aspect of Dylan's motives, despite the rich male sneering at "Miss Patty Valentine," other stuff---the song's point seemed sharper than ever.
Even better: Springsteen's "American Skin (41 Shots)," about Amadou Diallo, with a furious reaction from Lord Mayor Guiliani and the police establishment. Seems like it might be fairly risky for somebody playing a lot of monster concerts in that neck of the woods, especially in them days (or for that matter, if somebody wanted to screw with the Rolling Thunder Review, prob could have shook down Ramblin' Jack etc.)
Can't think of any white jazzers who have stepped up like that, maybe I'm missing somebody?

dow, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah, should count "The House I Live In," performed by Frank Sinatra in a 40s film short about a schoolkid attacked for being Jewish in the wrong neighborhood. He left out the line (by Lewis Allan AKA Abel Meeropol, who also wrote "Strange Fruit" and adopted the Rosenbergs' sons) about "black and white," but singing away the bullies with "all races and religions" was enough to inspire the very young Sonny Rollins, who later recorded it, and also enough, as Tarfumes has observed, to "get him on HUAC's shitlist." Nervy move for someone whose early solo career still seemed like a pop bubble to many.

dow, Thursday, 4 June 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

Just watched the first half of the HBO Sinatra documentary last night; they showed a clip from that movie. It wasn't subtle.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 4 June 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

Not at all! I'm sure HUAC would agree. Prob still on YouTube.

dow, Friday, 5 June 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link

Allaboutjazz.com mostly sucks these days, but this interview with pianist Dave Burrell is great.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:35 (nine years ago) link

I've been listening to Texas raised vocalist Leena Conquest who has sung with bassist William Parker. I like she and her band's takes on Curtis Mayfield

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 June 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

The fusion-y-jazz-rock cuts on the new Terence Blanchard album don't do much for me. He also has spoken word and more on it. Need to listen to this more.

curmudgeon, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link

Just found out Christian Scott is playing NYC on Thursday night - I haven't thought about him in forever. I feel like he was the Kamasi Washington of 2012, or tried to be, anyway...released an ambitious 2CD set that blended genres in a non-sucky way, but never quite got the attention of non-jazz writers.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Kamasi Washington tour dates:

July 30 Neumos, Seattle, WA
July 31 Pickathon Festival, Happy Valley, OR
August 6 Chop Shop, Charlotte, NC
August 7 Motorco, Durham, NC
August 8 Richmond Jazz Festival, Richmond, VA
August 9 San Jose Jazz Summer Fest, San Jose, CA
August 20 The Sinclair, Boston, MA
August 22 Blue, Portland, ME
August 24-25 Blue Note Jazz Club, New York, NY
August 26 Howard Theatre, Washington, DC
August 27 World Café Live, Philadelphia, PA
August 29 Soundstage, Baltimore, MD
September 15 Smith Center, Las Vegas, NV
September 18 Harlow's, Sacramento, CA
September 19 Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

Right now on Livestream: Jazz From Lincoln Center, feat. The Dexter Gordon Legacy---George Cables, Lewis Nash, Joe Locke, Gerald Cameron (?) (bass), Abraham Burton, Jimmy Greene, opening with "Cheesecake" (Gordon's highest term of praise, or one of 'em)
http://livestream.com/jazz/Dexter-Gordon-Hall-of-Fame
Robust, tuneful, boiling (yay Nash)

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link

Gerald *Cannon,* that is.

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link

So good overall, but George Cables' solos are triggering my Art Pepper jones---did Cables or Pepper ever perform with Gordon?

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link

O hell yes, at least early on: "At the age of 15, Pepper played with Dexter Gordon in (Lester) Young's band," according to jazz.com/encyclopedia, and later too, I hope. The Legacy's now high-stepping through "Long Tall Dexter."

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link

Hope tonight's show is released, that is.

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

Cables was on Gordon's 70s comeback albums, I think.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 2 July 2015 10:12 (eight years ago) link

This is a quick, mid-year reminder that all available tracks mentioned on this thread (and a handful of album selections from each listed) are being posted as updated to the thread-specific Spotify playlist. I just did a top-to-bottom sweep prior to posting this message and have updated as of today with everything that's been added on Spotify since it was first mentioned.

59 tracks, 7+ hours.

ILX's Rolling Jazz 2015 Thread Spotify Playlist

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 July 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Richard Brody ‏@tnyfrontrow 18h18 hours ago

Sonny Rollins and Don Cherry, in 1962, daring each other to go further out on the ledge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6e_z2dn69E

dow, Saturday, 4 July 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/matana-roberts/01-untitled-n-1

more new matana roberts!

solo alto

j., Saturday, 11 July 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

cool stuff! she's coming to my town later this year and I look forward to hearing her

nice that's there's a spotify list of stuff itt!

I can recommend this one too, it's from a/the Danish jazz blog that mostly reviews Danish albums but this playlist is international http://jazznyt.blogspot.dk/2015/03/the-jazznyt-international-playlist-2015.html

Apart from this thread and the Danish blog, I don't know where to read about new jazz records - I've browsed some American magazines at the library and I used to subscribe to a Danish jazz magazine, but I guess it was a bit "nerdy" for my taste. I'd like some kind of overview of mainstream releases with reviews - not unlike what I get @P4k (like the reviews or not, it's a good overview of releases!). So any suggestions would be appreciated.

niels, Thursday, 16 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

Try Bird Is The Worm - he does a weekly rundown, with links to stream tracks (usually Soundcloud or Bandcamp) wherever possible.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 16 July 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

Looks cool, thanks!

niels, Thursday, 16 July 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

Nytimes.com has a good range of jazz coverage.

dow, Thursday, 16 July 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

good links, thanks!

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

Just saying that the new Tim Berne's Snakeoil album You've Been Watching Me is very essential.

xelab, Saturday, 18 July 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

Just got a package of the first six reissues from the Xanadu label. Listening to Albert Heath's Kwanza (The First), a killer 1973 set with all three Heath brothers, Curtis Fuller on trombone, Kenny Barron on piano (acoustic and electric), and Ted Dunbar on guitar. A nice mix of hard bop and slightly funkier grooves; highly recommended.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 18 July 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

i DO like that album, hadn't thought of it in years; thanks for bringing it to mind

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 July 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

Interesting. Surely ilxor man alive has posted about that album somewhere here before. Believe Albert "Tootie" Heath has relocated to Santa Fe in the past few years.

Yeah, I wanna hear that album. Funny encounter with Heath, who grills his interviewer, for starters:http://www.npr.org/2015/03/14/392324106/albert-tootie-heath-drummer-extraordinaire-turns-the-tables

dow, Sunday, 19 July 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

Thanks. Hopefully can listen to soon. Know from my own brief interactions with him and from two people who know him really well that he is very funny and is always ready to needle you/call you out if he thinks you are putting on some kind of act.

two weeks pass...

Haven't heard note one, but just saw that trombonist Ryan Keberle is leading a band of killer musicians/super nice people at Dizzy's tonight

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 August 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link


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