Take a Sad Song and Extract Every Last Ounce of Spontaneity from It: the Beatles Uber-Ballad Poll

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someday monkey play piano song

Darin, Sunday, 14 June 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

lol, had forgotten that one.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 15 June 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link

lurkers, defend yourselves or face mass reprisal

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 15 June 2015 00:03 (nine years ago) link

someday monkey play piano song

― Darin, Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:24 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someday monkey won't play piano song

Lee626, Monday, 15 June 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link

I just want to know how "Hey Jude" fit on one side of a 45 when usually 4 minute songs got a verse chopped so it would fit

Lee626, Monday, 15 June 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

Wtf

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 June 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link

don't look at me i voted "Michelle."

Bee OK, Monday, 15 June 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link

i'm shocked that rong and whining choad got 7 votes

legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 June 2015 01:16 (nine years ago) link

it will never disappear

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

I just don't get it, do people just really hate the coda of Hey Jude for going on so long?

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

i love hey jude but i've always found paul's ranting over the coda a little hard to take, it's like he can't quite give in to the good communal feeling and just sing along with everybody else, he has to keep on being the center of attention

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

I don't have a problem understanding people having issues with parts or aspects of Hey Jude but literally everything about TLAWR from the opening vocal line to the final note is just awful garbage

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

I salute the 7 people who voted for 'The Long and Winding Road', as I salute Phil Spector for adding the orchestra because my god it sounds like arse without it.

i love hey jude but i've always found paul's ranting over the coda a little hard to take, it's like he can't quite give in to the good communal feeling and just sing along with everybody else, he has to keep on being the center of attention

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.),

yet he blasted George for wanting to answer his lines with guitar wankery

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

I am sad there is not an isolated bass youtube of Lennon's LAWR bass part, just so I could torture all you Hey Jude voters w it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

Um, Shakey, I think those were votes FOR "Hey Jude" and not against

Now Sleeps The Redd Petal, Now The Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link

Yes...I was getting progressively more confused in this thread as to what Shakey was trying to say.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link

Haha oops i thought we were voting for worst

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link

In Edinburgh once I saw a two man, well man and woman, one-man band do a truly awesome version of "Hey Jude." Their names were Pete and Andrea.

Now Sleeps The Redd Petal, Now The Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link

Shakey is OTM regarding Lennon's bass playing on 'The Long and Winding Road', though. I actually really like 'The Long and Winding Road', but I can't get on board with the McCartney point of view that the Phil Spector overdubs ruined the track. If anything, it was just the dressing the track needed to distract the listener from the fact that the performances of The Beatles themselves on that song (apart from McCartney, who is obviously the most into it) are incredibly fucking woeful.

For some reason, I find it incredibly difficult to believe that McCartney himself would find that take of the song (without overdubs) to be acceptable for release, since he's legendarily a pain in the arse for getting things right.

eh, i don't know. are you talking about the let it be...NAKED version? everyone's playing is pretty uninspired (and john flubs a few notes, if that's him playing bass), but i'd still take it over the string version.it could just be a pet peeve of mine but i can picture the string players earnestly playing their completely boring part with that look in their eyes like "i am playing strings with the beatles, this is very serious and i will occasionally lean very hard into certain notes even though this is the worst song i've accompanied since 7th grade and everything is a whole note" phil spector was obviously capable of cool things but this was not one of them.

legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 02:21 (nine years ago) link

always found john's view on "let it be" the song (from his 1980 playboy interview) amusing:

That's Paul. What can you say? Nothing to do with the Beatles. It could've been Wings. I don't know what he's thinking when he writes "Let It Be".

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 03:57 (nine years ago) link

Wilson Pickett's version totally redeems "Hey Jude"

mahb, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:20 (nine years ago) link

eh, i don't know. are you talking about the let it be...NAKED version? everyone's playing is pretty uninspired (and john flubs a few notes, if that's him playing bass), but i'd still take it over the string version.it could just be a pet peeve of mine but i can picture the string players earnestly playing their completely boring part with that look in their eyes like "i am playing strings with the beatles, this is very serious and i will occasionally lean very hard into certain notes even though this is the worst song i've accompanied since 7th grade and everything is a whole note" phil spector was obviously capable of cool things but this was not one of them.

― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:21 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would have assumed that '60s string players would have considered playing with The Beatles to be a bit beneath them, if anything.

Let It Be is definitely far from the best of The Beatles albums on the whole from a production and performance standpoint, but I do tend to agree with Lennon on this one... I do think Spector did well to turn those recordings, which, let's face it, aren't what I'd call "prime Beatles", into something releasable.

I kind of like all of these songs? Like, they're not my favourites but I like them all well enough. Never understood why everyone hates TLAWR.

boat of boats (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:39 (nine years ago) link

I learned a piano chord I didn't know before from TLAWR, so it gets pass marks from me.

The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:50 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2bwlQM8Mas

boat of boats (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link

That's Paul. What can you say? Nothing to do with the Beatles. It could've been Wings. I don't know what he's thinking when he writes "Let It Be".

Well "Let it be" and TLAWR are far from being favorites but I like them. The sadness/depression is touching.
And clearly they're not Beatles' records.
which makes me think that when people say that the iconic songs that remain for Lennon and Harrison are post-Beatles ("Imagine" and "My Sweet Lord" ?) whereas for Macca it's his Beatles songs that will be remembered("Yesterday", "Hey Jude" ?), I guess "Let it be" could count as his post-beatles iconic song that will be played when he passes away...

So "Imagine" Vs "My Sweet Lord" Vs "Let it Be" : FITE!
what about Ringo ?

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link

when people say that the iconic songs that remain for Lennon and Harrison are post-Beatles ("Imagine" and "My Sweet Lord" ?) whereas for Macca it's his Beatles songs that will be remembered("Yesterday", "Hey Jude" ?)

Uh, 'Live and Let Die'?

Sure but "Let it Be" is another level of popularity.
Thinking about it, it's clearly his "Imagine".

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 12:46 (nine years ago) link

everyone's playing is pretty uninspired (and john flubs a few notes, if that's him playing bass)

It is, and Ian MacDonald wrote that Lennon's playing (and passing off what is essentially a rehearsal/run-through as a finished track) amounted to "sabotage" of McCartney's song.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link

which makes me think that when people say that the iconic songs that remain for Lennon and Harrison are post-Beatles ("Imagine" and "My Sweet Lord" ?) whereas for Macca it's his Beatles songs that will be remembered("Yesterday", "Hey Jude" ?)

he's got nine #1s in America and countless top tens. If not, "Maybe I'm Amazed" or "Jet" will do in a pinch.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

Well, that's the thing: Macca's post beatles career has been way more successful of the four, but.

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link

but what?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link

but Maybe I'm Amazed isn't a quarter as well known as Yesterday or even The Long And Winding Road.

boat of boats (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link

The argument is that Lennon and Harrison have iconic solo songs, but Paul McCartney, who has had more hits and airplay than those two combined, doesn't? OK.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link

Try singing a bit of "Silly Love Songs" or "Band on the Run" to anyone over fifty who grew up on AM radio.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link

UK perspective is probably different from the US one, not that Macca isn't the most successful ex-Beatle here either.

The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link

xp UK perspective here indeed, but I feel that while those are famous songs, they're not I dunno 'iconic' - they work fine among a tapestry of other songs by Bread, the Carpenters, Andrew Gold and all sorts of other power pop, but I couldn't name a solo McCartney song that people define the man by: it's always Yesterday or Let It Be really.

boat of boats (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah he was a bigger solo presence in the United States.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link

LOL Mull of Kintyre!

The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

I couldn't even tell you how Mull of Kintyre goes, and that was a HUGE hit. The McCartney hits I grew up with was 'No More Lonely Nights' and 'The Frogs Chorus', but we sang things like 'Imagine', 'Obla-Di', 'Yellow Submarine' and 'Yesterday' in school as if they were part of a songbook.

boat of boats (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

I don't think he plays Mull of Kintyre anymore, but maybe that's because it was co-written by Denny Laine... and is dreary crap into the bargain.

The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

"Band on the Run" is probably the most US-centric iconic solo Paul, I've heard that one the most times in public places, grocery stores, etc.

Tried to find LAWR official video on youtube. It's not there. There used to be an official Beatles account featuring most of the videos but it seems to be gone now.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link

He bought Denny's share back off him.

Oh, and btw, "but." is shorthand for what DL and Alfred said, um.. (looks).. Alfred.

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link

of course, "Mull of Kintyre" !
but it's still far from "Let it Be" in terms of popularity. I mean, "Let it Be" is like the one song that Macca will play at the end of any concert (his or someone else's !)

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link

My sister thought 'Obla-Di' was rude, it *was* the way she sang it: "Oh, bloody.."

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link

and it's the song that was covered by various charity supergroups !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link


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