you probably think this thread is about you
― A bacon desert? Anything is possible. (stevie), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link
*high five*
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I like to think that the character of "gangsta andy partridge" was an in-depth satire on the subject of race relations in musical experiences and knowledge.
― Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
But seriously, "nigga i pop a cap in yo fat finnish azz".
You do it all the time, and I post this to ILM and not ILE because it usually comes rolling out with regard to music: around here "white-boy _____" gets used to write off as much music as any other pejorative.
who was intended by 'you' above? I've never done it. some tossers might do it. I wouldn't write to black people 'you do xyz all the time'.
Isn't that you fetishize suffering as the true source of deep feeling, and consequently fetishize the self-expression of people who are expected to have suffered -- namely, black people and the working class?― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 March 2003
lots of people suffer, in lots of ways, alas. personally I don't fetishize those particular sufferings at all, no. do you?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 11:55 (fifteen years ago) link
EVERYBODY MUST PAY.
― Koo Koo Butter (u s steel), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link
white music? synesthesia alert!
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
personally I don't fetishize those particular sufferings at all, no. do you?
Guy I know was criticizing Rachel Getting Married recently on the basis that their house is too awesome for their problems to be worth caring about.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
http://maxgif.com/152
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 June 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Monday, 11 June 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
A+ thread revive singlehandedly turned my shitty day around. Your bouquet of roses is in the mail
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Monday, 11 June 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
(the gif did, I mean. Fuck whatever people were saying in this thread, probably)
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Monday, 11 June 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
lol yeah the white guy who started this thread, what was he thinking
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
I've not read anyone describe anything as "white boy" music in many years. Probably as I stopped going on NOTBBC as it was fucking terrible
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
you haven't read ilx in years i assume too?
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
"the white guy who started this thread" ugh what a strawman (xpost to aero)
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
"self-aware whites who listen to indie rock and have "opinions" on shit like Stuff White..."
Self-regarding is a better description for this than self-aware. Its a backhanded compliment to say that white people are always in on the joke when they're being satirized. Apparently nothing gets past self aware white people with their irony and sense of the ridic.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
ilx: i've never seen such indignant white people in all my life.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
whites are a beastly race
― the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/VZ2lr.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/VZ2lr.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/VZ2lr.gif
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
please tell me she's not dancing to "pony"
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 08:17 (twelve years ago) link
― the late great, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:49 AM (11 hours ago)
the most inept flayers of beasts and scorchers of grass
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
O weird. when I followed that first link to the bristol gif earlier, my phone didn't display the flashing "WHITE PPL" text, I swear! I was just laffing at her face
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
(... and at the idea that someone would see a bristol palin animated gif and immediately think of this thread)
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
All you middle-class white assholes always pull this shit. (I'm a working-class white asshole, so it's okay for me to say this)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, March 28, 2003 12:39 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Kinda wonder whether Y. would still describe himself that way.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04vogFRgWNeUw/576x.jpg
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link
uh, holy shit. how did i not know that one of our own cofounded kickstarter?
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
gonna be at my desk cracking up all day and am not gonna be able to explain why
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
I prefer the term "caucasian" for "race". White has cultural connotations. Some day really soon it's going to seem like a stupid term.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
it really doesnt but people try to make it that way
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
rewind, rewrite -- obv it has 'cultural connotations' b/c thats all it is, but the way its typically used in these convos is coded for 'middle class'
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ suggestion that "caucasian" does not have cultural connotations
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
The term "Caucasian race" was coined by the German philosopher Christoph Meiners in his The Outline of History of Mankind (1785).[4] In Meiners' unique racial classification, there were only two racial divisions (Racen): Caucasians ("white and beautiful") and Mongolians ("brown and ugly"). These terms were used as a collective representative of what Meiners personally regarded as good looking and far less attractive, based solely on the appearance of the skin of the face, for example the Germans and the Tartars he considered Caucasian, and the best looking, while Jews, Slavs and Native Americans as Mongolian, and ugly in the face.
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
like let's not pretend these nomenclatures are based on science or logic or anything, because they aren't
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
so ugly
in the face
― Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Sure, "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" sounds terrible today, but at least it relates to geography and not skin color. What do you suggest (instead of "white" or "Caucasian")?
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
what
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
haven't really read this thread, but seeing the title today has got this song stuck in my head all morninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfbVN48TdUM
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
The "Caucasian race" was grafted by the evil scientist Dr. Yakub in his secret cave laboratory in the Caucus Mountains.[4] In Clarence 13Xs' unique racial classification, there were only two racial divisions (Racen): white devils ("white man") and the original man ("black man"). These terms were used as a collective representative of what 13x personally regarded as politricks, based solely on the 85 percent's lack of overstanding and inability to study their lessons, despite the 5 percent nation of gods and earths' efforts to educate.
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:52 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fixed
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― goole, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Sure, "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" sounds terrible today, but at least it relates to geography and not skin color.
not really - it's totally arbitrary (Tartars are Caucasian but Slavs are not even though both are from the same region in Europe. Why? because Slavs are ugly in the face of course)
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
Tatars were from Mongolia originally, just to make it funnier
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah as with any of these terms, how far back do you wanna go...
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
there is some use - for historians at any rate - in talking about cultural identities, migration and settlement. the problem is that a lot of pre-20th century thinking about these things garbled it up with race mentalism and measuring skulls etc etc
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
I would never identify as "caucasian" and hate when forms require me to do so--it's amazing to me that such a stupid, pseudoscientific notion can have such a long half-life. "White" is dumb because A.) i'm pinkish-yellow B.) The notion of one unified 'white (european) race' was fabricated in the 17th century as legal justification for denying rights to 'non-whites', so.
"Anglo" is okay w/ me because I think of it as more of a linguistic thing. I am uncomfortable when latino coworkers use "negro" but have not told them to stop and can't really imagine doing so. I don't particularly care for "gringo" but am good-humored about it.
Anything else?
― Despite all my cheek, I am still just a freak on a leash (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
i probably just put white, it's been awhile.
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
or caucasian. i do as i'm told
I'm a Jew, nobody can agree what we are
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
i mark 'other' and write in 'fabulous'
― Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
forms asking you to specify race are already hopelessly outdated, I expect them to disappear entirely within my lifetime
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link