Future - Honest (2014)

^otm ... you can find me upthread one month ago today expressing disappointment in 56 Nights ... now i can't stop listening to it

still think trap n***as is the cream of the crop, tho

guess i should check out Monster/Beastmode

they are both very good tho 56 nights is prob the purest distillation of the form

curious if hell go more pop/dynamic on the album or what

Honest is such a weird blip on the radar for him now. Imo if he'd just done some hardcore editing/resequencing before putting it out it'd hold up a lot better and his hot streak would seem even more *fire emoji*

'march madness' is probably the poppiest of the songs on the three mixtapes (the holy trinity as it were)

― 龜, Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:11 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

to me march madness is more a perfect album track ... the 'hook' as it were is in the melodic intricacies of the beat meshing w/ his meaningfulcore lyrics/emoting...."Commas" feels like the biggest Single-single but it's also not a perfect iteration of what he sounds like now IMO...its success set the table for further artistic explorations but I don't think he's yet released the HIT that epitomizes his current sound

in some gucci flip flops

15. The Percocet & Stripper Joint 2:36

yeah that's the best one

crashed itunes im just honest

lol did it really? wow

listened to some of the itunes previews last night, def seems to be in keeping with the sound of the last three tapes. bout to rip into it now

it's really good

the interview/bonus track commentary on the deluxe edition that's on spotify is...interesting? to say the least?

but yea this as thematically and sonically consistent as 56 nights or beastmode, love the production

they tried to make me go pop and unleashed a monster

p cool theres only one feature on this, not that cool its drake

This all sounds really mixtape-caliber to me

Wtf does that even mean

p cool theres only one feature on this, not that cool its drake

― lag∞n, Monday, July 20, 2015 12:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i heard he begged to have a feature on this lmao

drake made thirst an art form

Drake been obeying his thirst from time

http://bluntiq.com/media/blnt/2015/06/Sprite-1.jpg

Oh and re. Future, DS2 is cool but I think 56 Nights crazy

Wtf does that even mean

I meant it's not up to the caliber of his other albums. In both quality and sound, it feels like a mixtape to me.

It's got a sustained vibe, and I appreciate that. Honest was a lot more scattershot, and maybe even jumbled, but song for song it was so much better than this one

i kinda prefer the cold, grimly focused asshole future to the warbling romantic future. when was it obvious he'd switched? i lost interest in him for a while.

It's got a sustained vibe, and I appreciate that. Honest was a lot more scattershot, and maybe even jumbled, but song for song it was so much better than this one

― Evan R, Monday, July 20, 2015 4:30 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Strong disagree. Although I don't think this one is as good as 56 Nights

i kinda prefer the cold, grimly focused asshole future to the warbling romantic future.

I want to agree with this, but I'll take maudlin romantic Future over the asshole shaming his ex on "Rotation" any day

i think the beats on this are better. cold and mechanical, they fit.

xp you'll take the lies over the honest post-break-up bitterness then

yeah, of course. songwriters have unlimited license to lie; that's why songs are great

i mean i'm not impressed by future exhuming a homophobic slur i thought most successful rappers aside from tyler were carefully avoiding, either

i kinda prefer the cold, grimly focused asshole future to the warbling romantic future. when was it obvious he'd switched? i lost interest in him for a while.

it's been the dominant aesthetic from monster on

xp yup otm

ah i pretty much missed monster and beast mode

xp

great review deej

the thing the pre/post narratives seem to fatally downplay is that he was above all a great, singular romantic; it makes the contrast starker, and the question whether he expresses himself as numb depresso street addict as fully. idc much tho tbh

monster contains it's fair share of, like, songs that might be 'pop'

56 nights and ds2 are grim throughout

i would pay for a drake-less edit of that one song

i'm a big stan for "Loveeeeeee Song" Future but Honest didn't even that spot all that well and the production often sounded ill-fitting or weirdly chintzy. the Amadou & Mariam sample, even the "Benz Friends" beat was not really suited to Future that well. DS2 just sounds like all the producers he has real chemistry with trying to make the biggest nastiest beats they've ever made.

"i serve the base" is one of his best songs

good review, deej!

Good post rtc

Thanks yall

I just took a piss and I seen codeine coming out

:/

"i kinda prefer the cold, grimly focused asshole future to the warbling romantic future."

ditto. the latter version just seems like he cant ever be romantic without some sort of bro-ish clause that keeps his guard up. i dont find this 'fascinating conflict' all that fascinating, more bothersome.

immature actually, rather than bothersome

feels like a lot of praise (is that the right word?) for this album itt is more along the lines of "I like what he's trying to do" than "I like what he's done," or am I misreading that?

Been a minute since I listened to it, but there's a lot I like about Pluto that isn't present at all here. Not that it would necessarily matter, just that it's consistently solid, not great? idk, just keep hearing that dude's at his creative peak & feel like I'm missing something, or maybe just like(d) his music for different reasons

I think there can be different reasons for liking Future at different points in his career. I do miss a clear successor to My Savages and Jus Like Bruddas on here, as that where his emotive powers have gone post the Ciara breakup, when romantic love no longer seemed an lotion. A Hardly or Codeine Crazy would be nice too. However, as deej rightly points out, every bit of this seems to be emotionally charged in ways the earlier stuff wasn't, as if all this pain and confusion and regret and anger somehow got more focused once he let go of the idea of writing proper songs.

*that's

He used to write great songs, though. And there aren't many of those on this.

something on this like "throw away" or "codeine crazy" would be cool but i also really like its focus

I think this is the best stuff he's released so far. I really enjoy the overall mood, driving at night listening to it in San Antonio was nice.

this hasn't really clicked for me yet but 56 nights took a while too

btw hi rollie?!