This thread is may more aspie and retarded than the last time we did it.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
That post helped how?
Thinking about Varèse has made me ponder the number of 20th century composers whose music has survived not because it's widely popular but because it's narrowly popular with a small cadre of people who rate it. Most of those people would probably like to say that the music is "Good" meaning something other than (more than) popular. It seems like "popular" is too loose a word here to be any use as a synonym for good.
― Vanessa del Rio Ferdinand (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Popular is the only objective measure for "good" though. Everything else is subjective.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
that's why nobody's used it! xp
that's bollocks! (not xp)
― Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
there's nothing objective about listening to music
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Proove me wrong then.
(x-post)
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
― Tuomas, Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
popularity is generally a measure of how popular something is
― stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost to Darragh
I appreciate you're saying popularity can be an indicator of being good rather than actually being good but I think that amounts to the same thing and I don't agree for the reasons stated.
― Vanessa del Rio Ferdinand (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
"explain to me what words mean"
― stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
popularity is just another filter, the root problem is in defining one type/era of music as 'good' against another.
― Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Which is why I was saying that "good" pretty much amounts to nothing more than somebody trying to pretend that their subjective taste is an objective value.
― Vanessa del Rio Ferdinand (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Exactly.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
well ok then
― Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Now that everything from this decade onwards will be preserved in digital form and replicated for all eternity perhaps this tiresome debate will finally be laid to rest.
well, no. There will always be people who love digging up obscure old music, just as there will always be people who love unbelievably cutting edge new music.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I meant a different tiresome debate.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
obscure music, now that sucks
― Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
New Or Old Rock?
Dave Thompson v VOICE OF OUR alt.GENERATION RYAN SCHREIBER
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 21 May 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link