will try that! Thanks!
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Well I was going to write them down as an overhyped Skiffle combo from Hamburg but that would be a bit harsh. They did come up some quality tunes over the years and i am the walrus.
― Siegbran, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
step back everyone, siegbran of internet has something to say about the beatles, and it may shock you
― five six and (man alive), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
trigger warning, beatles fans
― five six and (man alive), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
I'm fine with the Beatles and you might've missed the hyperbole here but in all seriousness, why the Beatles catalogue is brought up in so many articles as some sort of big (psychological?) barrier to success for online music services is baffling to me.
― Siegbran, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
because the Beatles are the baseline measure of what music people want to have available
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
It might have something to do with them being the biggest selling artist of all time.
― five six and (man alive), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
they lack the cool factor of your favorite black metal bands, admittedly, but popularity counts for something too
― five six and (man alive), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
it also has something to do w/ them being the second (hell maybe first by this point) highest selling group this century
― balls, Friday, 31 July 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
they've also been, for quite a long time now, very canny and deliberate about how they handle their catalog. every other act just belches their catalog onto compact disc during the 80s, the beatles manage to turn it into an event that stretches out months and gets crazy press. when they eventually remaster them and finally put them on itunes, another event. you want to license one of their songs, good fucking luck and break out the check book. there are other catalogs that have been just as eternal in terms of still yielding ridiculous sales decades after release but i think you have to actually know or care about those things to know that spotify getting ac/dc on board is a huge deal. since michael jackson and nike and probably earlier everyone knows the beatles catalog is valuable.
― balls, Friday, 31 July 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
Xpost I know it's wreaked havoc, a bugaboo of mine, too. That's how it came out on the phone. But can't edit posts ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
ha, OK, glad u understand
― sleeve, Friday, 31 July 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link
Beatles albums should be public fucking domain.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 July 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
big artists making leverage plays, their may be lip service to 'artists deserve to be rewarded' but really they've meant 'fuck you pay me', the only exception to this has kinda been taylor swift and even then it was just 'dear apple plz pay something anything'.
― balls, Friday, July 31, 2015 2:41 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nah Taylor Swift's thing came across as blatantly cynical marketing to me. Apple just decides to change a giant multi-million dollar deal within days of her tweeting about it give me a break.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 July 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
Tho who can fault her Apple is historically a place for true artists, after all they had John Lennon in their advertisements /s
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 July 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link
I know, their fanbase bought them on vinyl, then on CD in the 90s, and now again digitally. They've been in the sweet spot for making oodles of money off recorded music in the historically small window when that was possible. Good for them. Yes, boomers are still a big market to milk but in ten years time their hearing's gone, along with their ability use a touchscreen or mouse. Sinatra and Elvis, similarly worthy and immensely popular artists, are past that point already and are (by and large) irrelevant to the business model of streaming/digital music.
― Siegbran, Saturday, 1 August 2015 09:02 (nine years ago) link
I mean, are these streaming services intended as museums or art galleries?
― Siegbran, Saturday, 1 August 2015 09:04 (nine years ago) link
my name is Noodle Vague and i approve this message
― the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 August 2015 09:13 (nine years ago) link
why the Beatles catalogue is brought up in so many articles as some sort of big (psychological?) barrier to success for online music services is baffling to me.
are people really still writing that? i hardly see their name mentioned at all anymore in analyses of the streaming world, except maybe in passing.
(i see the name "taylor swift" a lot. but i don't think she was ever in the beatles, was she? that was james taylor, right?)
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 1 August 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
http://thenextweb.com/opinion/2015/08/01/why-the-beatles-are-letting-down-a-generation/
haha
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 1 August 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
the continued absense from Spotify, Apple Music and their ilk is thanks to the same ‘we’re premium and deserve special treatment’ attitude that meant I could never afford their CDs as a kid because they were generally priced way higher than anyone else’s even though they were already three decades old by that point
Uh, what? I distinctly remember buying the catalog as a kid and the CDs all costing the same as other music. Fugazi CDs were cheaper but that's about it.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 1 August 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
most CD's by 60s groups were mid-price though except for the beatles & the stones. Pretty sure that is what the writer meant.
Also Beatles cd's were £15 here. Never in a sale
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 1 August 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, what? I have no memory at all of Beatles cds costing more than anything else. And considering they've only reissued a big deal remastered series once it's not even like they're continually trying to gouge people who want to own Beatles cds.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 August 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
Maybe it's different over there, but in the US them shits have always been priced in line with everything else.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 August 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
rip off britain strikes again
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 2 August 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link
I mean, I guess they never had explicitly budget releases - definitely no Beatles For Sale/Help! twofer discs out there. So yeah compared to certain other acts they never got steeply marked down, but...
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 2 August 2015 05:09 (nine years ago) link
question about the Discover Weekly playlist, apologies if this has already been covered upthread: does anyone know if the choices are based specifically on your previous week's Spotify listening, or does it take your listening over a longer timescale into account? if I listen to nothing but psychobilly one week, will I get an all-psychobilly inspired playlist the following Monday?
― pop addicts should "do their thing", whatever that may be (soref), Sunday, 2 August 2015 11:07 (nine years ago) link
only one way to find out
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Sunday, 2 August 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
good luck
And how many times can I get away with playing my 2yo daughter's frequent request 'Agadoo' by Black Lace before my Discover Weekly starts being populated with awful 1980s novelty hits?
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Monday, 3 August 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link
private listening?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 3 August 2015 12:51 (nine years ago) link
oh btw Apple Music vs Spotify
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 3 August 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/opinion/sunday/open-the-music-industrys-black-box.html?_r=0
Asking the current set of labels to have some transparency seems hopeless. Will Spotify become a label, maybe (a la Amazon with their self-publishing service)? Will some other entity step in and provide a label that promises transparency or fairer distribution of royalties?
― schwantz, Monday, 3 August 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
there ARE labels that promise transparency and a fairer distribution of royalties. They're just "indies" that can't achieve success on the level of a major, and streaming services are too beholden to the majors to treat them equally.
― da croupier, Monday, 3 August 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
Are up-and-coming acts still signing on to horrible major-label deals these days? If so, I feel sorry for them, but also - shame on them, to some extent.
― schwantz, Monday, 3 August 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
Just the fictional singer/songwriters getting millions of streams without any promotion at all.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 August 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Is anyone else getting a big black screen when they click on the Local Files folder? Using the latest Mac version.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 August 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
My local files ceased working completely on the Mac client.
― Jeff, Thursday, 6 August 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
I have to wait a few seconds but it does come up for me (also Mac)
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Thursday, 6 August 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
Startup for this program has become glacial on my mac...
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 6 August 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
Same on iPhone!
― schwantz, Thursday, 6 August 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
startup is glacial on my PC, but to fair everything is glacial on it
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, 6 August 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
since switching to version .8.5 i have had more or less NO issues with Spotify and the only thing i'm missing is the ability to subscribe to artists. Loads fast, works reliable, no bloat!
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 August 2015 04:10 (nine years ago) link
I'm leaning toward dropping Apple Music and keeping Spotify at the end of the AM free trial, but at least one gripe about Spotify remains: I'm still finding albums where tracks longer than 10 minutes are grayed out. On AM I can listen to the whole thing.
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 7 August 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 8 August 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
What are a couple examples of those albums you saw where the long songs are grayed out? I can investigate.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 8 August 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link
Noticed it in four Anthony Braxton albums today --A.B. & Wolf Eyes - Black VomitA.B. & Fred Frith - Duo (Victoriaville) 2005Complete Braxton 1971, vols. 1 and 2
also:Miles Davis at Newport 1955-1975 - 3 tracks on disc 1, not even the longest tracks on the discMiles Davis Quintet - Live in Europe 1967 - 2 tracks on disc 2 and all of disc 3
When it happens, it seems to be in jazz releases. Thanks for checking.
― rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Saturday, 8 August 2015 03:38 (nine years ago) link
Thanks. I'll see what I can find out.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 8 August 2015 03:58 (nine years ago) link
Those Braxton and Davis unavailable songs are all at the label's requests, in a technical sense. I mean, Spotify didn't take any action of our own to make them unavailable. The Miles Davis ones are unavailable in the same inexplicable patterns on Apple Music, too. We will pursue with the source labels, as it's hard to believe this is an intentional request. Probably some database-field at Sony or wherever got mis-set somewhere once, and then nobody ever noticed or fixed it.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 8 August 2015 12:00 (nine years ago) link
The long-track-unavailable thing seems a holdover from peak a la carte downoading, to force purchase of the entire record. Don't want to let an album of two seventeen minute tracks to go for two bucks. In a Silent Way gets fixed, but not the deeper catalog stuff.
― juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Saturday, 8 August 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link