Acclaimed Music Top 30 Albums from 1997 poll

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great list imago, discovered a few things i already like.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 15 August 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

i think the most surprising thing about this thread is that no one has said they are voting for Homework. this is ILM right?

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 August 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

Voted Missy.
Probably listened to "Welcome to our World" more than anything else though.
Imperfect album, but the production and Static's vocal arrangements were amazing.

mr.raffles, Sunday, 16 August 2015 05:04 (eight years ago) link

1997's critical consensus was... underwhelming. maybe it's just where we're at in time, maybe in ten years all these records will sound really brilliant to me again, but i find there are very few records less interesting to me than the critically acclaimed records of twenty years ago.

never heard "sizzla", though. any good?

rushomancy, Sunday, 16 August 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

Try the most critically acclaimed films of 20 years ago.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Sunday, 16 August 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

I just think Discovery is Daft Punk's crowning glory. I love some of the singles off Homework but to me it feels more like a collection of 12"s than an album I'd want to listen to all the way through.
Then again, I heard Discovery first so that may have biased me.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Sunday, 16 August 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

I'd have voted for Prolapse's "Italian Flag" if it were here. Same for Memphis synthers the Clears' self-titled (would be an interesting alternate universe). But "Lonesome Crowded West" was my life for a while, and in the absence of those others I can't not vote for it.

For some other off-listers, thank you ILXors for reminding me of Fantasma and Polydistortion. Drugs A. Money's list looks nice too; my droney DAM-esque picks for '97 wd be Hash Jar Tempo "Well Oiled" and the Azusa Plane's "Tycho Magnetic Anomaly". And, oh shit, ciderpress OTM, The Ballasted Orchestra.

Homogenic and (bits of) the YLT and BTS are p gr8 too but nobody needed reminding of that. Screw New Forms; d&b was never really an album genre but if I had to pick a couple from '97 they'd be Modus Operandi and The Prototype Years.

xp i love the track on Orblivion with the Scouser going on about Beelzebub

SALT. Sample of David Thewlis in "Naked" iirc. I sold the album at one point cz I was all "bah, it only has two good tracks on it" (SALT and Toxygene), but it turned out that I missed those two tracks so much I bought it back again.

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 16 August 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah not super into "kundun" or "the ice storm" either

rushomancy, Sunday, 16 August 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 17 August 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

imago otm itt

rip van wanko, Monday, 17 August 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

'97 is also the year of Teenage Fanclub's best album

― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Friday, August 14, 2015 2:40 PM (2 days ago)

agree with this, and I voted for Grand Prix in the '95 poll...

that said, even if it were here I couldn't vote for Songs from Northern Britain over Lonesome Crowded West or Perfect From Now On.

alpine static, Monday, 17 August 2015 04:40 (eight years ago) link

Just bought Polydistortion on CD for a massive £1.57.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 17 August 2015 08:08 (eight years ago) link

Money very well spent.

Grilled Floam In A Gak Reduction (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link

every Gus Gus album (except for Forever) is great to to outstanding

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

the Top 2 is right and big surprise at number 3. i'm a bit disappointing that In It for the Money and Vanishing Point got no votes.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Wow, totally didn't see that coming!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Having said that, not a lot of votes between Homogenic and OK Computer!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:20 (eight years ago) link

Most of the albums that received zero votes are quite good. I expect Erykah to do muuuuch better in the 2000 poll (and I might even preemptively declare that as my vote).

Profound Perspectives (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link

Polls make you look really ugly.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

to the 5 others who went YLT: i love you.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

Thanks 23 voters for proving imago right.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

nope

Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link

1997 was also the peak of the '90s alt-country boom: Whiskeytown, Old 97s, Robbie Fulks, Steve Earle, The Derailers, The Bottle Rockets, Richard Buckner, Slobberbone, Blue Mountain, 6 String Drag, Neko Case ... all put out terrific albums.

alpine static, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link

Voted Spice world

Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 09:37 (eight years ago) link

voted OK C because it's what the thread deserves

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link

Zaireeka didn't get a single goddamn vote?!?!

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link

i thought it was great, the one time i heard it as intended. i listened to a mix-down version once as well, but it's just wrong to do that and leaves guilty feelings afterward. nowadays i don't think i could find 4 CD players.

1993 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link

Thanks 23 voters for proving imago right.

has OK Computer become the international symbol of bad taste or something? what makes it different than say Dark Side of the Moon? why is it so offensive to like this record?

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

it's not. people just expect people's opinions and tastes to change dramatically over time and they don't.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

Was gonna say something until I remembered Pavement won the '94 poll, too.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link

OK C holds up pretty good imho. a lot of stuff that seemed like a good idea at the time can sound questionable 15 years down the road (as much as I still love Let's Get Killed i'm not digging a lot of the tracks nearly as much as I did at the time), but OK C isn't one of them. nor is In It for the Money.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

Vanishing Point is my favourite Primal Scream album that I've heard. They managed to hit on that particular vibe so well.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

I feel OKC is an extremely mixed bag in a lot of ways. There's some great stuff on there for sure: Uptight, Lucky, Electioneering into Climbing. But there's a lot of stuff I don't really have time for: obv Fitter is the famously doff track, but tbh Karma Police & No Surprises wore out their welcome quick, and Tourist and Let Down are kind of listless slogs. Yes, Let Down has pretty colors, but so does Uptight and that track has an elated, jazzy buoyancy where Let Down has only leadenness. And I like Android okay, and its impressive how it manages to seem compressed and yet expansive enough to imply that that one track will be enough as a follow-up to the entire Bends album, but I feel like the logic of the track (tension->explosion->spent, wearied reverence) is kind of pat, bordering on cliche (though tbrr it does feel like it could actually belong on "the greatest album ever" which is more than I can say for Exit Music or Tourist or Karma Police)

darkwing dynasty (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Drugs A. Money's list looks nice too; my droney DAM-esque picks for '97 wd be Hash Jar Tempo "Well Oiled" and the Azusa Plane's "Tycho Magnetic Anomaly"

Thank you :-) re HJT: Under Glass a lot but I have a hard time getting into Well Oiled for some reason. I will def check out that Azusa Plane album though. Also imago's list seems really good, too...

darkwing dynasty (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link

That should read "I like Under Glass a lot..."

darkwing dynasty (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

xxp good post; largely agree

would go further and say 'no surprises' is trite & shit. sorry that is just my opinion

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

the 'let down' false ending is kinda great but yeah it's weighted down by that portentous & overbearing tone; it doesn't feel like it's quite earned its own grandeur

first three tracks are cooking with gas but for some reason nobody else twigged how frontloaded the album is (mostly coz 'climbing up the walls' is so good probs lol)

Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

i was never the most fervent radiohead fan, but at this point in time the album just seems to be so of its time and neither old enough to be interesting, or new enough to be fresh so that i literally couldn't sit through it.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link

HATE the production.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link

i voted for mogwai young team from pure campanilismo

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

xp i'd be interested to hear why you hate the OKC (assuming that's what you mean) production. at the time it felt like the most space-age thing, like the opening minutes of planet telex turned into a full album.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 10:21 (eight years ago) link

i'd argue a lot of accusations of triteness/cliche when it comes to OKC are only really applicable in hindsight, if only because it's become that way through setting a benchmark that others have followed, or through being overplayed.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 10:33 (eight years ago) link

even 'fitter happier' sounded cool at the time, although it's easy to laugh at it now. the text-to-speech voice, 'a pig in a cage on antibiotics', the fact it's obviously a filler but also an 'eye-of-the-duck' thing that epitomises the album, 'shot of baby smiling in back-seat', the overall dystopian tone of the thing - all these are kind of laughable now in today's context, but they felt pretty new and arresting at the time.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 10:36 (eight years ago) link

Missy Elliot was more futuristic and arresting though.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link

apples and oranges

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 12:37 (eight years ago) link

Not in this poll.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link

My only exposure to Missy at this point was via her singles and she didn't SOUND futuristic until "Beep Me 911", which wasn't released until 1998

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link

this is apples and oranges, c'mon man.

Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm just saying that I owned both albums, liked OKC, but was blown away by "The Rain" in contact (Homogenic too).

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link


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