I love Frozen, but I hate the title track of Ray of Light so much.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:42 (eight years ago) link
i prefer "dud years" because "dud years" are more interesting. power vacuums enable the weirdos, which is good as long as you're talking about art.
― rushomancy, Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:52 (eight years ago) link
I lovelovelove The 3 EP's. Mainly the lazy way it flows. I mean, the music is adventurous and great, but what's unique for me is the tripartite structure and sense of the album being a journey into the monolith and back to some sort of reality again.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:59 (eight years ago) link
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come is my choice. Such a seminal album, I remember being floored by it when a friend took it over to my then- hardcore bands' practice room. We didn't rehearse that evening. We just sat around our boombox listening to it over and over. Saw Refused live that summer twice, right before they were planning to go the USA and split up. They were raging. I sincerely thought it was the best hardcore band ever (for us Euro kids Refused was quite a big deal).
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Thursday, 20 August 2015 10:33 (eight years ago) link
3EPs is great but it makes me feel a bit nauseous sometimes. Monolith is one of those great lost 90s epics.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link
This isn't actually as bad a year as I remember. Plenty to choose from. Gonna vote Hello Nasty. I don't listen to it any more, but it felt so momentous at the time and I still see it as a flagship album for the year. To me, it spearheaded that renewed interest in eighties ephemera that would come to epitomise the coming decade, but taking it from a golden age of hip hop POV rather than electro.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link
although I could easily vote for Air, NMH, Mercury Rev, BOC, Outkast, Beta Band, Elliott Smith, REM and others.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link
New year, same drill. I'll post a personalised addendum in a bit. For me, this was a better year than 1997, I think, and even this list has quite a bit of stuff I still love, although billstevejim is quite correct above
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:07 (eight years ago) link
my write-in vote is LP5 by Autechre.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:12 (eight years ago) link
I was all over Gastre Del Sol's Camofleur in 1998, but would probably vote for Gas's Zauberberg in hindsight
― feargal czukay (NickB), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:16 (eight years ago) link
Gastr
Never heard -- or heard of -- lots of these. Wasn't Adore 1998?― Sam Weller, Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:23 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Sam Weller, Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:23 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
huh, i'd have thought that'd be in there.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link
never knowingly heard Gastr del Sol but whenever I hear the name, I just think 'trapped wind'
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
Lucinda, though I probably listen to Moon Safari more.Has anyone actually heard the Costello? Thoughts?
― campreverb, Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:40 (eight years ago) link
I imagine it's like this = awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2ABpZ4F3s
― niels, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:09 (eight years ago) link
― feargal czukay (NickB), Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:16 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I think I prefer Camoufleur to anything on this list. But I prefer Royal Trux - Accelerator to anything else that was released in '98. By like a country mile.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link
Oh, wait, christ...how is Moon Pix not in this list?!
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link
Massive Attack, Boards Of Canada, Outkast, The Beta Band, Beastie Boys, PJ Harvey, and Mark Hollis are the only ones I care about. Maybe Air on a lazy day.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:36 (eight years ago) link
That Neutral Milk Hotel album will never not be horrific wailing to me.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link
It will never not be horrific either.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link
I don't know how long it's going to take for everyone to acknowledge that the first NMH album is the better NMH album. But it'll happen eventually. I can feel it.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:41 (eight years ago) link
I want to know how I was able to go almost twenty years without ever laying eyes on this amazingly incongruent cover art:
http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/506/MI0001506241.jpg
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:44 (eight years ago) link
1998 does feel like a weak year to me. As did 2008. I don't like the idea of 'weak' years - I suspect it means you weren't trying hard enough as a listener - but the fact that there seems to be a general consensus that they were weak is intriguing. Ontologically, how and why would this happen, both as a perception of lack of quality records and/or as an actual lack of quality (were it quantifiable)?
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link
That NMH is indeed an acquired taste! The list has my #1, but my #2 is Arto Lindsay - Noon Chill. I guess a lost classic now? Or was it never found? See also Boredoms, Tom Zé, Cornelius. Cool to see the Mark Hollis in there. Didn't expect to see 'em that high but there's other rock beyond QOTSA - Turbonegro, Motorpsycho, Solstice, Blind Guardian, Afghan Whigs. I suddenly have the urge to listen to Long Fin Killie!
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link
I'd say 1998 was solid, not weak. Just not as many career peaks from certain artists as other years.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link
Just looking down this list and it's a pretty stellar year for me: GY!BE, BoC, Beta Band, Hollis, the Necks, Gastr Del Sol, Tortoise, the Rev, Gas, Gang Starr, Cat Power, B&S, Dirty Three, Sparklehorse, Plastikman, Sophia, Bang on a Can/Eno...
I'd probably go with the GY!BE from this list, though the Dylan bootleg is the obvious standout.
― Poacher (Chinaski), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link
Best albums not featured here:
Royal Trux - AcceleratorCat Power - Moon PixGastr Del Sol - CamoufleurOval - DokSpinanes - Arches and AislesSolex - Solex Vs. The HitmeisterSpoon - A Series Of SneaksSugar Plant - Happy800 Cherries - RomanticoFantastic Plastic Machine - LuxuryJeff Buckley - Sketches From My Sweetheart The Drunk
...and Goldie - Saturnz Return which, yes, I do actually like and which, yes, I do realize invalidates my opinion on everything else I listed so get off my case already jeez.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link
This has me listening to Mansun's Six at the moment. I doubt if I like any other rock from 1998 as much.
― jmm, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link
Load of pretentious nonsense by a load of artless Britpop wannabes
(it's my album of the year too, it or Super Ae)
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link
Numbnuts edit: I meant this list: http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1998/1
― Poacher (Chinaski), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link
Soul Coughing - El Oso
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link
If we count Super Roots 7 as an album, mind you, then sheesh. Almost any year would be decided by that one
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link
Aquemini in the easiest vote so far
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:11 (eight years ago) link
TNT is a very important record to me
― ciderpress, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link
As meh as this year was for albums, at least the most-acclaimed single of the year was one for the ages.
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1998s.htm
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link
Mezzanine in a walk. My God what an amazing album.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link
That Neutral Milk Hotel album will never not be horrific wailing to me.― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkIt will never not be horrific either.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 20 August 2015 14:01 (eight years ago) link
all of these are fantastic and I could vote for any one of them:
1 119 Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill5 326 Massive Attack - Mezzanine7 435 Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children8 449 OutKast - Aquemini9 453 Madonna - Ray of Light10 475 Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way, Baby15 881 The Beta Band - The Three EP's
These are very good:
13 794 Pulp - This Is Hardcore24 1531 PJ Harvey - Is This Desire?30 1838 Hole - Celebrity Skin32 2049 Queens of the Stone Age - Queens of the Stone Age
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 20 August 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link
I think the NMH album is good, and I'm allergic to abrasively-strummed acoustic guitar and nasal caterwauling.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
I went with XO even though I think it's the weakest out of either/or though Figure 8.
― DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link
Is this desire is possibly my favourite album of all time (top three on any given day anyway), but I wish I could vote for Madonna too.
― Leonard Pine, Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
As a cohesive album that I find really moving, the NMH hits the mark for me. That being said, I can see how many people would find it unlistenable. I voted for it...
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link
Yeah same as Sam.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
i can see that too, although i don't get the how it's 'entry level alternative/indie', which is the complaint i often hear about it.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
The complaint I make about it is that it's fucking horrific nails-down-chalkboard screaching and banging.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
Having never heard them before (and only being tangentially aware of them because of a Raygun article on Elephant 6), I saw NMH open for Superchunk in '97 or '98, and it's still one of the most amazing live performances I've ever seen. That said, the albums (Aeroplane in particular) are a pale shadow of the live show, and in terms of E6 albums NMH's are lower-tier for me.
― Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
"EYEEEEE LOVEEEE YOUUUUU JESUUUUS CHA-RIIIIiiIIIiiIiiiIIiiIIiIIiIIIiIIiiiIiiIIiiIIiIIST! JEEEEEESUS CHRIIIIIST EYEEEEEE LOOOOOOVE YOOOOOOOOOU YEAAAAYSSS EYEEEEEEE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooDOOOOOOOOOOO!"
*guy-with-hands-over-his-ears.jpg*
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
that's like, 20 seconds of the whole thing.
― Stop counting smart one. (dog latin), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
"KEN LEEEEEEEEE! TULIBU-DIBU-DOUCHOOO!"
No, wait, that's a different track... easy to get mixed up, though.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link
so like,
Mansun - Six <<<fuck you alllllllBoredoms - Super Ae / Super Roots 7Earl Brutus - Tonight, You Are The Special OneHood - Rustic Houses, Forlorn ValleysQuickspace - Precious FallingDälek - Negro Necro Nekros <<<hip-hop taken to new levels iircHalf Man Half Biscuit - Four Lads Who Shook The WirralGorky's Zygotic Mynci - Gorky 5 <<<their first great album imoGorguts - ObscuraGanger - Hammock StyleAutechre - LP5 <<<not my favourite of theirs but it's still greatSix By Seven - The Things We MakeShellac - Terraform
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
xp I get those opening 'Chang Chang Chang chakachaka Chang Chang' chords stuck in my head all the time
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
I just realized that Zeek Sheck's Good Luck, Suckers was a 1998 release. Maybe not my top pick but way up there.
― Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:10 (eight years ago) link
for me it is The Boo Radleys Kingsize that is my favorite release from the year.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link
btw, 1999 won't be coming tonight as i'm taking the week off. it will come out in a weeks time.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
sad to see only one other vote for Hello Nasty. That was such an important album for me and my friends. We'd only discovered how amazing the Beastie Boys were the year before and we were so psyched for it. Bought it the day it came out and just rinsed it to death. It's a really fun album - some days my favourite by them.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
The Beasties were really fun...I miss 'em. One of a kind.
― Sam Weller, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link
I don't honestly know how much time I would've given Aeroplane if NMH hadn't previously accrued massive goodwill from me for their amazing live show. But NMH were my gateway into Elephant 6, which yielded a lot of my favorite music from the late '90s, so they'll always be swell on that tip.― Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 16:06 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 16:06 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like Olivia Tremor Control a hell of a lot. By comparison, NMH always sounded painfully ordinary to me and nothing particularly special... just painfully ordinary music with a woeful singer.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
Had my 1998 playlist on random - Royal Trux, Swervedriver, The Black Heart Procession, Unwound, Yungchen Lhamo, The Loud Family, Rachid Taha, Eels, Fugazi, Northwinds, Sunny Day Real Estate, Zeke, Ui, Hector Zazou, Leila, Sixteen Horsepower, Plush, Sloan, Baaba Maal, King Sunny Ade, Talvin Singh, Pere Ubu, Amon Tobin, Monster Magnet, Rocket from the Crypt, Mark Lanegan, Spoon, Colour Haze, The Daktaris, Shellac, Calexico, The Handsome Family, Orange Goblin. More fun hearing a lot of this for the first time in years than listening to the top ten poll winners!
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
Arto Lindsay covering Prince (it's from the previous year's album Mundo Civilizado, but Noon Chill is just as great): https://youtu.be/tVRze5vJxD8
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea 19This was a shit album. Polls = hell. People are better off not knowing what the hive mind thinks (and if you have the hive mind I envy and pity you). I blame pitchfork for encouraging this behavior
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
FFS, that message was supposed to be merely a precursor to a post I had about Arto Lindsay but I can't find the youtube I was looking for.All hail Arto!
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
I'm now imagining an actual hive filled with the buzzing of hipsters.
― The only "doors" I care about are the ones I show to Doors fanatics (Turrican), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
is one of the bees crying in the corner
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
I don't think NMH winning is anything to do with people following each other but due to their awful taste.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
Darn would have voted either Mark Hollis or Calexico. Poor Calexico...
― Evan, Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
xpost:
Possibly both?
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 27 August 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
it really only makes sense that In the Aeroplane Over the Sea walked in this poll. not for everyone, agreed but always laugh when people go to great lengths to criticize it and put people down who love it. for me, it's one of the best albums if not the best album from the 90's. albums like this has people putting album art on their bodies, not many albums can say that.
drunk so = fuck off haters!
― Bee OK, Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link
http://c0.thejournal.ie/media/2013/01/tatt3-319x500.jpg
― soref, Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link
(I love No Jacket Required though)
― soref, Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
lol
― Bee OK, Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
you have a point.
Looks like Darth Maul has fallen on hard times.
― Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Sunday, 30 August 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link
catching up on this thread and kinda bummed that a handful of dismissive anonymous internet dudes with much better taste in music than me have successfully overthrown my 17+ years of loving Aeroplane :(
― alpine static, Sunday, 30 August 2015 09:51 (eight years ago) link
I cannot get into Aeroplane as an album much at all but I cant be too mad it walked because "Holland 1945" is still one of my all-time favorite songs
― darkwing dynasty (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 30 August 2015 10:41 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAygQls6UNo
― rushomancy, Sunday, 30 August 2015 11:51 (eight years ago) link