Pitchfork's Chris Ott takes No Prisoners

For context, and because it's much more interesting than Ott being creepy and abusive on the internet yet again, there's a storify of the responses to Jessica Hopper's question about sexism in the music industry here: https://storify.com/Laupina_/from-the-margins

man, those remarks to Sadie Dupuis are completely unacceptable. I mean, a troll is a troll is a troll, but still: his "bad boy" persona is a flimsy cover for utterly pedestrian phobic sexist garbage.

he claims she omitted the tweet he was responding to, which had similar language. I can't find it though

Oh, I found it. It was from a few months ago. I guess he meant it as a callback?

I'm not sure of the timeline here but it looks like Ott's tweets are old too since they're responding to a handle she doesn't use anymore

She made an obvious sonic youth reference at his expense, he made "hermaphrodite" jokes in response. Either he's being facetious or forgot the name of a SY song about rock critics, guessing former

he harasses women on twitter all the time

his twitter feed thru 8/24 is pretty *steeples fingers*

"harassing women on twitter all the time" should be a steely dan post-reunion lyric

is there a reading of this tweet other than the one I'm employing https://twitter.com/shallowrewards/status/634145850026033152

something I did not say in response to that post: a later instance of feeling like I don't count is that one thing that ran on collapseboard or wherever on ott's latest crusade against pitchfork, and in the comments he would respond to the men there (including pitchfork writers!) with comments to the effect of "you know you're my man, but..." and then ignore the women entirely

not sure just how much 'chris ott is awful and a fucking creep' we can handle but there's more to be found in this feed https://twitter.com/ween_ebooks

how old is ott?

i retract my earlier 'damn' re: the vitriol this guy gets here and elsewhere, he does it to himself...

ts: chris ott vs. edward champion

hey chris, how's the family?

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lmao

nice

Who will protect the innocent 21 year-olds from those lecherous "adult" 35 year-olds? Oh, the humanity. I actually apologized - but you won't see that on the timeline.

Ashley mad xpost - best in ages.

please leave

xpost "Actually..."

gtfo

please don't post in the thread we made about you and constantly update

Yeah this is getting silly

Getting?

I've made real progress today - I removed the bookmark from this thread.

so apparently Chriss Ott is REALLY popular on reddit and 4chan

he did an AMA yesterday on r/indieheads and it was like, we are not worthy. i never heard of this guy before i read about him on ILM, so it was sort of a shock to see people (teenagers?) worshipping him

people really respond to that level of financial success

all about the bennies

lol 'indieheads'

Does Chris Ott laugh? Smile? What a miserable fella

what does he even do now, besides be an internet grouch? i remember him doing some good stuff for perfect sound forever but it feels like my 2010s awareness of him has been exclusively through this thread

he followed me on twitter for awhile, then unfollowed me after i unfollowed him. so he seems like he spends a lot of time on the internet. he's probably reading this! hi chris

reddit thrilled to have someone just say what they've all been thinkin'

That more people read and/or react to my writing than most music critics out there today, and usually (notably, gratefully) from beyond the self-adoring, self-obsessed ILM/Reynolds/Momus/blogger community.
Now are you riled? SUCKAZ SHOCKA!!!

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, September 24, 2003

wow some things never change

"I guess someone's trying to start Who Pays Influencers (this is a completely bullshit scenario people are trying to pretend is commonplace - companies are not giving cash to people on Insta to wear their clothes, anyone who believes this and reports it needs to get checked. It's like six people and they're legit celebrities beyond social media)." lol what

"this phenomenon, which is so established that the FTC issued guidelines on it years ago, is bullshit. I know this because I have all these /mu/ followers and yet no one wants me to wear their clothes."

I don't think there's anyone who doesn't want Ott to wear clothes tbh

i'm listening to that swirlies record now, it's ok

The concept of "growing" is so pathetic - and the best part is this laughable conflation with it as some badge of depth, of wooden, True music, maaaaaaaaaaan. A "grower" is an album you don't like but either A) repeatedly subject yourself to because you know it has social currency and if you want to partake of its social currency you must submit to it on some level, or B) you ensure people know you're aware of until its handlers find some way of selling it in the future, at which point you can say "Oh yeah I remember that album, it came out last October", broadcasting your stature as an Alpha Consumer.

I am hitting you in the face with a baseball bat right now.

I really dislike this guy.

"I guess someone's trying to start Who Pays Influencers (this is a completely bullshit scenario people are trying to pretend is commonplace - companies are not giving cash to people on Insta to wear their clothes, anyone who believes this and reports it needs to get checked. It's like six people and they're legit celebrities beyond social media)." lol what

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, May 16, 2016 10:44 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol completely wrong!!

wait which person is wrong in this scenario

TBF Reddit isn't happy with everything he's saying:

whatever9991230 9 points 2 days ago
ive been way more disillusioned with music, recently. Every album is either a "surprise" release or pushed by the same marketing cycle. Is it too much for me to want something real/ is that even really possible anymore?

shallowrewards 0 points 2 days ago
Patience is a virtue. Just ignore the noise and definitely filter anyone out of your life who uses music in a competitive way. If anyone asks you if you've heard of a band or heard a record, I mean, just delete that person from your life. When people ask me that, I invariably say no, whatever the case may be. And if they start to recommend it to me, I tell them it doesn't really sound like my kind of thing. Their discomfort and disappointment in not being able to use music in a way they should not be using it is a wonderful feeling.

VERY_LARGE_BENIS_XD 41 points 2 days ago
Who the fuck is upvoting this? This idea is bizarre and misanthropic. Sure some people will do this in the competitive sense but others just want to turn you on to good music. I have found some great stuff by listening to friends and I'm all the happier for it.

I nearly c&p'd that exact conversation.

what an odd comment to make from a rock critic who shouts at people for not having heard certain obscure shoegazer albums

did you expect anything but wisdom from VERY_LARGE_BENIS_XD