Sly and 'stereo' belong here:Songs that incorporate the "nan nanny boo boo" melodyBut the buddy holly one is an obvious rip, but also a canonical example of nicking a tune but making your own clearly distinct song from it.
― ledge, Sunday, 30 August 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
I just hope no one gets sued over it.
― how's life, Monday, 31 August 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link
what is the one at 1:35?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU7vXN-2j3A
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
lol I even own that album duh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
West and Nastanovich sit in with a Pavement cover band in Nashville: http://pitchfork.com/news/61813-pavement-members-perform-pavement-songs-with-pavement-covers-band/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5iDsc4pCc0
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
While Malkmus guested on a song with these folks for a song on an album (first publicized back in September):
Soldiers Of Fortune are a supergroup featuring Kid Millions (Man Forever, Oneida), Barry London (Oneida), Matt Sweeney (Chavez, Zwan), Jesper Eklow (Endless Boogie), Brad Truax (Interpol), and Mike Bones (Oneida). On November 6, Mexican Summer will release their new album Early Risers, which features contributions from Stephen Malkmus, Cass McCombs, Dan Melchior, Comets on Fire's Ethan Miller, and others
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
https://youtu.be/cyGbBCc8aU0
my 3rd wave coffee shop anthem
― calstars, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 00:49 (seven years ago) link
walked past a chipotle today; they were blasting harness your hopes.
― wmlynch, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link
https://youtu.be/LoqsS_DiU_A
― Οὖτις, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
enjoy this sweet Pavement ripoff that plays over the end credits of Kelly Reichardt's 1994 film River of Grass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOwsOfQgFs
― flappy bird, Sunday, 1 October 2017 06:14 (seven years ago) link
Sammy has a thread re: Sammy - C/D? , but yeah no they are most notable for either being the best band to have a future C-level billionaire exec on lead guitar... or Gerard Cosloy's least favorite band of the 90s.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 1 October 2017 06:43 (seven years ago) link
I think that's what Pavement sounds like to people who don't like Pavement.
― bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 1 October 2017 11:11 (seven years ago) link
I was able to convince some pals that Malkmus was recording new Pavement songs under a different name. Look at the freakin' artwork! Listen to the freakin' vocals!!! https://clearance.bandcamp.com/track/close-encounters
― SA, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
In another alternate world (that some call reality), Malkmus is recording new (Jicks?) material in the studio.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 2 October 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
I didn't know abt the Sammy billionaire thing (and I bought their album, not that I can remember anything about it)
sad, tho, that "what Sammy is most famous for" is not and probably never has been "say, didn't one of them go on to call himself Laptop and record 'End Credits'"
(quit ripping off Pavement to rip off Future Bible Heroes as reimagined for the Marcy Playground generation? eh whatever, I love that song)
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
X-post
Jicks sounds like Malkmus started some other band. Clearance sounds exactly like Pavement.
― SA, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link
Just getting home from a bar and the band played a “cut your hair” cover which was very low effort but if there is a band where low effort counts it’s this one. The looser the cover the closer to Pavement’s spirit it gets, I guess.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 October 2017 06:54 (seven years ago) link
Is there any good biography or super long magazine article about Pavement? and specifically about their last days? This band still confounds me- I find all of S&E repellent, I like Crooked Rain, and a few songs here and there on other records... but "Grounded" is one of my favorite songs ever. And this performance is just stunning: their second to last show ever, first song of the set, as someone in the comments put it: "Malkmus's energy is so cool in this vid. It's like a mix of feeling it and pissed off frustration that culminates in jigging around with the guitar behind his head."
I want to know more about why Malkmus left Pavement... is it just personal animosity? Obviously wasn't sick of touring or recording. Also I would like to read more criticism and analysis because I've been trying to understand this band and why people love them so much for nearly 13 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_i4C8axWBs
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
sounds like you need to relisten to S&E until you like it
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link
I want to know more about why Malkmus left Pavement... is it just personal animosity? Obviously wasn't sick of touring or recording. Also I would like to read more criticism and analysis because I've been trying to understand this band and why people love them so much for n
Boredom: with slackness, not making enough dough, the usual.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
listen to wowee zowee until it all clicks imo
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link
flappy bird this could be a gateway S&E song and also function as a dirge eulogizing pavement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5OeoVkTDLM
malkmus is a prickly ocd loner fwiu and grew increasingly disenchanted (ha!) with carrying the load of his college / post-college buds. the swerve into prog in his solo albums is heard by some as something of a rebuke to / growth beyond earlier chummy sloppiness
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link
Surface take: SM outgrew Pavement. Aside from Ibold (& Gary Young), the other guys were just friends with marginal talent.
Behind the scenes: one of the other dudes was serially cheating on his then-wife, flirting with a shitty drug habit, all the while coattail-riding & making other questionable life choices.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link
so why is most of his solo output so boring while every single pavement album is good
― Simon H., Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:25 (six years ago) link
^^^could be a collegiate mindset, I found as I've gotten older there are as many classic tracks (and duds!) on the Jicks stuff as the Pavement records (esp. the latter Pavement records which have aged terribly).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link
I'll just link this seemingly unrelated dating advice column here:
http://www.thebolditalic.rip/articles/3385-dating-in-your-40s
At 21, I gave up hope that my romantic life would ever morph into a John Hughes film, and I met my first boyfriend. After six years, he became my husband, and another eight years, my ex-husband. Initially all I thought I wanted was someone who played guitar, listened to the Replacements, and wore Sambas. And this pretty much describes my ex. He toured nine months of the year, liked bands on Touch and Go, and played soccer in college. But as I grew older, I realized our marriage had turned into a rock ’n’ roll cliché, including erstwhile drummers, band breakups, drugs, and hookups with groupies in Paris and London.Ultimately, I couldn’t blame my ex since he did us both a favor – he behaved so badly that I didn’t have to feel guilty for wanting out (though inevitably I did) or take responsibility for my own mistakes. But I was still left shell-shocked. At 35, when most of my married friends were having kids and moving to the suburbs, I was single and struggling to make a living as a college instructor and freelance writer. I wondered if I’d completely wasted my 20s and a big chunk of my 30s.
Ultimately, I couldn’t blame my ex since he did us both a favor – he behaved so badly that I didn’t have to feel guilty for wanting out (though inevitably I did) or take responsibility for my own mistakes. But I was still left shell-shocked. At 35, when most of my married friends were having kids and moving to the suburbs, I was single and struggling to make a living as a college instructor and freelance writer. I wondered if I’d completely wasted my 20s and a big chunk of my 30s.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:32 (six years ago) link
I like the later Pavement records just fine, still. I tap out on the Jicks records at the dull half of RET. the new single is stunningly dull.
― Simon H., Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:38 (six years ago) link
then again I never really understood the TT hate beyond godrich's fussy production
― Simon H., Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli)
Very interesting...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:04 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
co-sign this
― k3vin k., Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:50 (six years ago) link
yeah i have, i like it, but so much on there that doesn't connect with me, even songs i like like 'rattled by the rush.' i can't stand stand any of the SS songs. but 'grounded' is like i said one of my favorite songs ever. i just feel one day it'll all make sense because i've been trying to understand this band for longer than any other and i know i wouldn't ruminate on or be perpetually pissed off by a band that wasn't interesting or compelling or moving. i love pretty much all of Crooked Rain but 'grounded' is on another level
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:55 (six years ago) link
Big Pavement fan here who also just doesn't like S&E very much
― Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link
grounded is like the exact venn overlap of helium and polvo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link
flappy bird - you listened to the last two albums? common opinion is all 'the early, cool, sloppy Pavement was great; the later stuff where they could play their instruments and got fancy producers to make them sound like Radiohead is dud' and I pretty much disagree with that. Much as I love Crooked Rain, I think there's just as much to be enjoyed about Terror Twilight and Brighten the Corners as there is from S&E, probably more. They weren't the same band, but who wants the same band?
― Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link
but this is how literally every Pavement thread in the history of the Internet goes
― Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link
I wasted all my 20s and a good chunk of my 30s too, and I didn't even have to get married to Spiral Stairs.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link
life is a waste of time. been a pavement fan since crooked rain -- saw the tour as a very young chap. first two malkmus solo albums are his peak imho
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
Yeah not fighting against consensus at all but:
S/E - Fascinating debutCR/CR - Near perfect ideal of an indie-rock albumWZ - Their best albumBTC - Their most underrated albumTT - accurately rated mild disappointment
But I think Brighten The Corners is the one most overdue for a reappraisal. It's a fantastic late '90s rock album with a character all its own, even if it's not exactly what I come to a Pavement album looking for.
― Evan R, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link
Love love love Brighten the Corners
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
flappy IMO in order to "get" S&E you need to listen to Demolition Plot J-& and Perfect Sound Forever, both of which I prefer and both of which were a big factor in the massive hype for the debut album. then jam out to "No Life Singed Her" and see if it clicks.
― sleeve, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
co-sign that too- transport is arranged is one of my favorite pavement songs. the B-sides from around then are fun too
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
Gonna descent b/c I think if Flappy doesn't get S&E he's absolutely going to HATE 90% of that early stuff, which is really disjointed and not at all the "Grounded"-y songwriting fix he's looking for.
My suggestion is check out the live 1992 concert on the second disc of the S&E reissue, which dresses up a lot of those rough early songs with some alt-rock showmanship. This version of "Home" is so completely my shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgJ4SSbSJ6o
― Evan R, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
Stick your fingers in my mouth / Pull my lips back WATCH ME SMILE
― Evan R, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
hmph "Debris Slide" is far from disjointed (again, imo, but come on)
I found S&E and CRCR a total letdown after those glorious EPs, the only other record I like as much the early stuff is WZ.
― sleeve, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
will not dispute the glory of "Debris Slide"
― Evan R, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link
If you love “Grounded,” Brighten the Corners is certainly the closest thing to a whole album of Groundeds, and the expanded edition has more good stuff along the same lines. It’s my favorite Pavement album, though the almost invariably slow tempo takes some getting used to.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
I for one also adore Transport Is Arranged. Listened to it last week and I still can't get it out of my head.
With recent events, the lyrics have changed in my head to "Praise the GAMMON police..."
― kraudive, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link
What's weird is that I have internalized Standard Critical Discourse enough to think of S&E and Crooked as "the classic Pavement albums" but if I actually contemplate my listening habits, in the last 10 years I've played Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners 5x more than either of those. "Transport is Arranged," "Stereo," "We Are Underused" are three of their greatest songs.
But of course, yes, "Debris Slide," that is majesty.
(I don't care about "Box Elder" anymore though!)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
I was always a little sad they didn't ever try to go the Perfect Depth route / style ever again. Wonderful noise rock.
― kraudive, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link