Crazy talk. The musicianship here is amazing, the songs are great, his singing is great, the lyrics are great. But I guess the relative lack of interest here compared to the Kaputt thread suggets that maybe ILM was primarily into that record because of its sophisti-pop signifiers rather than because of anything else. Which is a shame, because I think they're a great band.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2015 08:03 (nine years ago) link
well, my problem with this record is that there's not one song that I really like (so far) while there was always at least a couple in their previous albums that I know.So it's an album I can play in the background for sure but there's no "meat" to me.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 3 September 2015 09:42 (nine years ago) link
you don't like "Times Square"?
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:49 (nine years ago) link
well it's alright.but not particularly memorable...like the rest of the album !
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm sorry... maybe watch the video? I liked it
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 September 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link
I like the spanish EP much more, for instance !
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 3 September 2015 11:21 (nine years ago) link
fair enough! the best moments of Poison Season remind me of Rubies, so if you can't get on board w/ 'tall ships made of snow' then maybe this just ain't the album for you
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 September 2015 11:31 (nine years ago) link
oh I like Rubies !anyway, yeah, I guess what they went for with this one is just not for me....
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 3 September 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link
Immediate highlights = Dream Lover (raucous, exciting, radioplay), Archer On The Beach (familiar, dreamy, unfamiliar, jazzy), Midnight Meet The Rain (rocking, dramatic), Times Square (three times! Different versions, lovely strings on the first), Forces From Above (changes, crazy percussion, brass).
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2015 12:24 (nine years ago) link
Hell reminds me of the Michael Nyman soundtrack to The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 3 September 2015 12:50 (nine years ago) link
sorry that was meant to go in my diary
This album doesn't hit me as hard as Kaputt did, the first Destroyer album I've liked. I'm not sure it was the 'sophisti-pop signifiers', though I've learned to love Tango in the Night since. It was more the incredible atmosphere, the woozy soundscape, the lazy vocals, the dreamy lyrics about walking in strange city-scapes. That album to me is a world. Poison Season is an album, a collection of songs. And I like them, many of them, but it is a very different kind of album for me.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link
Tango in the Night is Sophistipop?
― MarkoP, Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:40 (nine years ago) link
what is sophistipop, actually ?is it anything beyond roxy music's "avalon" and B.Ferry's "boys and girls" ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link
Destroyer covered Everywhere on their Kaputt-tour, and yeah, I thought that was sophisti-pop?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link
It's a retrospective genre name so it's in the ear of the beholder but I wouldn't include Tango in the Night. The Wikipedia entry lists most of my least favourite 80s bands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophisti-pop
Alfred co-wrote a great Bluffer's Guide about it.
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/bluffer/sophisti-pop.htm
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
this album is very pretty. it's no Kaputt part two but a pleasant listen. there are no stand out songs but i can see listening this a lot over the next few months.
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link
Baffled by people saying there are no stand-out songs on this; individual songs have leapt up at me far quicker than Kaputt.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 September 2015 13:06 (nine years ago) link
"You can fall in love with Times Square"
― pdf booklet in the cheesecaked factory (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 4 September 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
but the song you see
This album is far more song-based than Kaputt, and I'm baffled if at least Dream Lover doesn't immediately stand out for people.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 5 September 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
I'm starting to like this a lot.
Thanks, Re-Make!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link
Only had one run through this so far, but Dream Lover / Forces From Above hooked me in immediately. Love that cello on Forces ...
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 5 September 2015 09:32 (nine years ago) link
Destroyer covered Everywhere on their Kaputt-tour
― ufo, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 05:56 (nine years ago) link
pretty good album
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 11:09 (nine years ago) link
"Times Square" is such a jam
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
love the "Young Americans guitar
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:43 (eight years ago) link
the album as a whole hasn't hit nearly as hard as kaputt but i do really like 'times square'
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 16 October 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link
"Times Square" sounded good live a few weeks ago.
I feel like I mentioned it on another Destroyer thread.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link
This album is growing on me big time. It's got a lot going on musically--i like the slightly dialed back word count--and the arrangements/production are really good.
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link
Lots of nice trumpet moments
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link
I like this, but I always skip "Dream Lover" because I think it's too noisy.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link
do you like Psychedelic Furs?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link
I had to look up "Pretty In Pink." A little too Billy Idol for me.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link
I love the backing horns on Sun in the Sky. Where can I hear more like that? Or is that part of the early Springsteen street rock sound?
Also, is the guitar part on The River played with a slide? I really love that slightly sitar-y guitar sound
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 1 November 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
xpost the opening of "Dream Lover" is kind of abrasive, especially late at night on a long drive when you've got the volume up for the lovely delicate opening track.
― Tom Violence, Sunday, 1 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
This has really grown on me - probably my second favourite of his now. Especially love The River and Times Square. I miss the sequencers etc. but there's still the all horn/guitar soloing that was so great on Kaputt. It feels like the album some band would have made just before turning to sequencers etc. for Kaputt in the 80s.
― ufo, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link
agree, strong album, grower, tried to figure out what track to nominate for an eoy vote but couldn't choose betw "times square", "dream lover", "the river", "midnight meet the rain"
trumpet is v good
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link
I'll take my chances on the rain.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link
strong choice
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link
This is pretty great--Bejar even cracks a couple of jokes! (posted it by accident on Kaputt thread)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxOL77KMcd8
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
the other day I found myself wondering how it's possible to be "in a windowless room / ... / overlooking the river"
which I see now, as I write this, in fact makes perfect sense [via double-entendre]
― artisanally blended vape juice smoothie (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
What a great video! Incredible sound production on these American radio stations, weird it doesn't translate into tv performances where sound ime is almost always unlistenable. Had tickets for destroyer Friday but can't go, glad I get to see these live takes of new tracks - gives a better sense of what's going on. Also nice to hear them play EU Oils, such a good band.
Reckon there's sort of a dirty pun in the "I seen Bangkok" line?
― niels, Thursday, 19 November 2015 08:15 (eight years ago) link
Ha, I don't know about the pun, but yes--amazing band, amazing filming!
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 19 November 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
^agreed. makes me sad I skipped that tour ;_;
― artisanally blended vape juice smoothie (bernard snowy), Thursday, 19 November 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
this album v good after all
― Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link
yup it was a grower
― niels, Thursday, 17 December 2015 11:21 (eight years ago) link
i heard a song off this on the radio and it just occured to me that dude must have a major nikki sudden/kunsworth/jacobites jones
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
Been listening to this a lot lately. I was kind of underwhelmed by this when it was released, but right now this feels like my favorite album of 2015 and possibly favorite destroyer album.
― silverfish, Sunday, 10 January 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2G_sNJbfZA
― groovypanda, Thursday, 31 March 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link