bitch magnet: C or D

I thought the book was an interesting and entertaining read despite finding Fine not really remotely likable (to be fair I don't think Fine is pitching himself as likable either).

sooyoung's not a dick though, right?

Sooyoung was definitely pretty aloof, in my years-ago experience, but not a bad dude.

I liked the book, I felt it didn't come off nearly as misogynist as it comes off a half-dozen or so posts upthread, I feel like JF championed quite a few female/mixed-gender bands/artists. Well... unless maybe if you were a Simple Machines fan, that may have been pretty pointed.

What stuck with me was how low-/pre-tech life rather recently: payphones, cheap gas, no internet/email, etc. Looking back it seems incredulous anything got done but somehow it did.

JF definitely pulls no punches about himself and his flaws, and not in a cutesy self-depricating manner. Might be a metro NYC cultural thing tho, or possibly a cathartic therapeutical "let me get this off my chest" memoir.

Is he (or SYP) a dick? I think they're both nice guys, JF is still seems enthusiastic about music as ever whereas today SYP is more reclusive and/or purposefully obtuse*.

*Can't remember if it's mentioned in the end of the book but SYP & Orestes kind of anonymously/pseudonymously joined this band shortly after the BM reunions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7DCkI4iATY (SYP is off-camera stage right playing bass).

The hardcover of Fine's book is £3.69 on Amazon UK right now, which is weird considering the paperback is £12.

i must have missed this when it was posted but i saw it with this latest bump

I felt it didn't come off nearly as misogynist as it comes off a half-dozen or so posts upthread, I feel like JF championed quite a few female/mixed-gender bands/artists.

1) I didn't say he was a misogynist, I said I didn't like the way he wrote about women.

2) Championing bands with women in them is not some kind of misogyny-free pass