so…it's like…..the india……..of indie
― twunty fifteen (imago), Friday, 25 September 2015 01:07 (1 minute ago)
the andaman islands specifically yes. the only mode of resistance would be that of the sentinelese, who resist all co-option and occasionally attack stray fishermen or prurient observers.
matt dc quite right re the quietus and it does show how difficult it is for something like that to be anything other than dreadful. if the quietus does have a vital centre it's probably something like the sleaford mods, but as well as the inarticulate early onset alzheimers stuff there is also some connection to the actual routed through the nostalgia. there's a commendable amount of interesting writing there.
this thing by contrast seems to be for the living dead whose initial cathexis with irl music is long since forgotten but who compulsively plough the same furrows.
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link
took the words right out of my mouth
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link
Not really seeing what this mag has to do with The Quietus however
What a jaded, miserable lot you are. Doesn't anyone like magazines anymore? Yes, Louder Than War is pretty chaotic and varied in their tastes, but they also manage to cover some great stuff that no other print publication would, like Dead Skeletons. Seems like it could potentially be a big improvement over the likes of Vive Le Rock, more in tune with new, interesting music. I'd be interested in checking it out.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link
I'd be interested in checking it out.
How do you know they cover stuff like the Dead Skeletons if you haven't seen a copy yet? Serious question.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
They're on the playlist posted as an image upthread
― twunty fifteen (imago), Friday, 25 September 2015 14:22 (eight years ago) link
Iron Fist magazine is from the same stable as this and is p interesting/well written if you care about 70s/80s metal and modern metal that sounds like it's from the 70s/80s
― Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 September 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link
tbf its not like any American mags cover a lot of these bands so of course fnb would be interested.If we're gonna compare anything here I think its a less metal version of rockarolla magazine. http://rock-a-rolla.com/main/
Its also nice to see a non-metal mag covering Zombi at last. (ps Zombi arent remotely metal nor do they have guitar but only metal mags cover them)
xps
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link
xp that seems like it caters to a niche that actually exists though
― Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 September 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
Iron Fist is very good and is different from the other mags around.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
something about Rockarolla's criteria for coverage really grinds my gears but I can't quite explain what it is. just feels like this really myopic idea of what 'arty' music is idk. again tho I think there is a certain kind of listener who that speaks to, I probably know quite a lot of them tbh
― Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 September 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 12:25 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is this why this thread has more uk ilx action than anything about new music
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
oh sorry forgot about the nme one
this thread is as noted above part of the second order death cult that is ilm's fascination with the brit rock death cult
there's nothing intrinsically wrong with aesthetic death cults simply because they are irrational, some of them produce more content than others
the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link
What "indie" mags are left in the UK now?
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 10:24 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i feel like spotify & streaming in general has sort upended my concepts of "new" and "old" music, there's so much old music that is new to me and mixed up with new stuff that's new to me and old stuff that's familiar and new stuff that's familiar and spit out at me from recommendation engines and other ppl's playlists, it's just so easy to skip around from Bach to Jay Rock to Pink Floyd to Kurt Vile to Disclosure, which is basically what I did this morning
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
I've been reading their website for half a decade.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
well played
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
so the stone roses article is just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion. I quite like how varied (to a certain extent) the bands are in the mag compared to say the NME but its never going to be a mag for most ILXORS.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link
just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion of the stone roses as the lead feature on issue 1 of a magazine first published in 2015
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link
it can only be uphill from there. I love the roses but the article is pointless but clearly they need a big cover star to sell the mag.
At least it wasnt Oasis.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link
It might still cover some ilx friendly music though.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link
lol i guess
though they didnt even get the cover star for an interview right?
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link
that's nothing for the roses. nme back in the day did that. The roses didn't really do interviews a lot. They were awkward fuckers (part of their appeal)
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link
their comeback with the second coming interview was with The Big Issue instead of NME/MM.
NME didnt like that.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
god thank you!
― mattresslessness, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link
I do like Mansun but that was the biggest wtf for me with this mag, nilmar. If the cover star hadnt been the stone roses LJ would probably have dug it
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
I dont see any general mags selling in 2015. Niche mags are clearly the way to go
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link
This I suppose will give you an idea of what they will cover
http://i.imgur.com/ih45qGx.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link
o did Sealings move to Brighton
all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton
(perhaps it is a different Sealings)
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
similarly, John Robb used to like some good stuff, and plenty of bad stuff
his "this is the real deal punk! rock!" schtick was always kind of exhausting either way but fair play to him for still being out there enthusing I guess
the cover is really quite unenticing but that page from the inside is slightly more encouraging, was thinking I might pick this up if I see a copy, but then I squinted at the price tag and at a fiver no, I probably won't
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link
most of the mags cost that now I think and I suppose as its quarterly its not too bad.
Classic Pop I think is more expensive
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
I know what the clincher will be for you rebecca that will make you buy it
http://i.imgur.com/TbpwsR2.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
OK, you made that up!
― Mark G, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
argh
come back Plan B, they gave me a nice DAF CD and some coldwave comp or other for subscribing iirc
(yes, please be made up. top notch photoshop skillz if so)
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
I have no such skills
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link
CTCL , LLSS and Plan B were great mags
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM (12 minutes ago)
I think they might have been at uni at Oxford, actually, so quite possibly the same ones? (They are m8s, innit.)
This looks fucking shit. Though my interaction with LTW online has always been "oh, a link to that place, it's supposed to be alright iirc... oh no, wait, it's a pile of bollocks".
― emil.y, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8Yum5qK.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/u1Yv2op.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9Xds93D.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
Are we actually supposed to read those or.....
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
just letting people know the contents. Sorry if the pics arent great
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
Please don't say "if you don't like a thread, don't read it"
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link
Help me out here, are we supposed to point and laugh?
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
wait you bought this? what is happening, i thought we were making fun of britrock bands
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
i kinda like it for that alternative universe vibe. like looking at christian rock magazines. a world where people still listen to old mansun cds...it might as well be sci-fi to me. but it's just a culture thing. korean music magazines would be just as foreign to me. maximo park! i mean what on earth could they sound like? feels like i've seen that name forever.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link
xp
yeah I bought it as I wanted something to read while waiting for my opticians appointment
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
unbelievable how long stone roses can run on two albums. isn't it? are they rich from those records? talked about endlessly since 1994! that is truly impressive. how many words in the u.k. print world have been written about those dudes? millions maybe.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link
haha sex pistols did one
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
is it strictly a British thing?