oh sorry forgot about the nme one
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
this thread is as noted above part of the second order death cult that is ilm's fascination with the brit rock death cult
there's nothing intrinsically wrong with aesthetic death cults simply because they are irrational, some of them produce more content than others
the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link
What "indie" mags are left in the UK now?
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 10:24 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i feel like spotify & streaming in general has sort upended my concepts of "new" and "old" music, there's so much old music that is new to me and mixed up with new stuff that's new to me and old stuff that's familiar and new stuff that's familiar and spit out at me from recommendation engines and other ppl's playlists, it's just so easy to skip around from Bach to Jay Rock to Pink Floyd to Kurt Vile to Disclosure, which is basically what I did this morning
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
How do you know they cover stuff like the Dead Skeletons if you haven't seen a copy yet? Serious question.
I've been reading their website for half a decade.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
well played
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
so the stone roses article is just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion. I quite like how varied (to a certain extent) the bands are in the mag compared to say the NME but its never going to be a mag for most ILXORS.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link
just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion of the stone roses as the lead feature on issue 1 of a magazine first published in 2015
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link
it can only be uphill from there. I love the roses but the article is pointless but clearly they need a big cover star to sell the mag.
At least it wasnt Oasis.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link
It might still cover some ilx friendly music though.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link
lol i guess
though they didnt even get the cover star for an interview right?
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link
that's nothing for the roses. nme back in the day did that. The roses didn't really do interviews a lot. They were awkward fuckers (part of their appeal)
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link
their comeback with the second coming interview was with The Big Issue instead of NME/MM.
NME didnt like that.
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
god thank you!
― mattresslessness, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link
I do like Mansun but that was the biggest wtf for me with this mag, nilmar. If the cover star hadnt been the stone roses LJ would probably have dug it
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
I dont see any general mags selling in 2015. Niche mags are clearly the way to go
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link
This I suppose will give you an idea of what they will cover
http://i.imgur.com/ih45qGx.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link
o did Sealings move to Brighton
all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton
(perhaps it is a different Sealings)
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
similarly, John Robb used to like some good stuff, and plenty of bad stuff
his "this is the real deal punk! rock!" schtick was always kind of exhausting either way but fair play to him for still being out there enthusing I guess
the cover is really quite unenticing but that page from the inside is slightly more encouraging, was thinking I might pick this up if I see a copy, but then I squinted at the price tag and at a fiver no, I probably won't
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link
most of the mags cost that now I think and I suppose as its quarterly its not too bad.
Classic Pop I think is more expensive
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
I know what the clincher will be for you rebecca that will make you buy it
http://i.imgur.com/TbpwsR2.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
OK, you made that up!
― Mark G, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
argh
come back Plan B, they gave me a nice DAF CD and some coldwave comp or other for subscribing iirc
(yes, please be made up. top notch photoshop skillz if so)
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
I have no such skills
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link
CTCL , LLSS and Plan B were great mags
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM (12 minutes ago)
I think they might have been at uni at Oxford, actually, so quite possibly the same ones? (They are m8s, innit.)
This looks fucking shit. Though my interaction with LTW online has always been "oh, a link to that place, it's supposed to be alright iirc... oh no, wait, it's a pile of bollocks".
― emil.y, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8Yum5qK.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/u1Yv2op.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9Xds93D.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
Are we actually supposed to read those or.....
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
just letting people know the contents. Sorry if the pics arent great
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
Please don't say "if you don't like a thread, don't read it"
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link
Help me out here, are we supposed to point and laugh?
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
wait you bought this? what is happening, i thought we were making fun of britrock bands
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
i kinda like it for that alternative universe vibe. like looking at christian rock magazines. a world where people still listen to old mansun cds...it might as well be sci-fi to me. but it's just a culture thing. korean music magazines would be just as foreign to me. maximo park! i mean what on earth could they sound like? feels like i've seen that name forever.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link
xp
yeah I bought it as I wanted something to read while waiting for my opticians appointment
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
unbelievable how long stone roses can run on two albums. isn't it? are they rich from those records? talked about endlessly since 1994! that is truly impressive. how many words in the u.k. print world have been written about those dudes? millions maybe.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link
haha sex pistols did one
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
is it strictly a British thing?
do young british people listen to the stone roses or is just old geezers who look like the sleaford mods who still listen to them?
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link
i dunno, i would have to think really hard to come up with a band who released so little music who have gotten as much ink in the u.s. as the roses have. there aren't really any music mags here though. it's not like you read about big star everywhere here. bad example anyway. the stone roses are ALWAYS in british music mags.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link
i guess The La's beat even the roses though. i'm sure mojo still writes about them.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link
I have seen two girls about 12 who live near me wearing Stone Roses and Nirvana tshirts. That's the kind of level they are. Sure i bet they are seen as the "weird kids" in school but those into music always were.
Stone Roses were very important to a section of people my * age (not just guys I may say)
*inc me
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link
Scott are there a lot of niche magazines in the US or are they just general music types? Anything that covers 'indie'?
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
uhhhhhh, is Magnet still a magazine? or Alternative Press? they are the only indie ones i can think of and they might be out of business by now. there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though. i buy Ugly Things when it comes out. that's about the only U.S. music zine i buy.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
and i still get Decibel in the mail free every month. because they like me.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
Decibel is really the only kinda-big U.S. music magazine that is any good. in my opinion.
there is wax poetics. but i consider that more of a niche/zine thing like an ugly things. smaller in scale than decibel. and i rarely see it anywhere anymore.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link
I wonder why metal print mags survive and indie ones cant? (Metal was never mainstream here) Especially here in the UK where niche of a niche metal mags can survive
Kerrang (Ok not metal now but the only rock mag that has more than 50% female readership)TerrorizerZero ToleranceIron FistRockarollaBig Cheese
I have a digital sub to Decibel as I cant get the mag here and the print mag is too expensive to import
While they do overlap sometimes they also cover a lot of stuff the others dont.and probably others i forgot/dont know about.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:13 (eight years ago) link
metal fans are to the death. they will buy anything metal.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link
Alternative Press is definitely still around, and thriving. They just had a 30th anniversary exhibit at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, actually. I'm really impressed by what they do, even though I don't write for them anymore (I stopped last year). They know exactly who their audience is - basically teenagers through people in their early 20s - and they cater to them incredibly well. Whether or not you like what they cover is one thing, but you would almost never look at an issue of AP and think, "Why is that band in here?"
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link
U.K. mags in general just vastly superior to anything here. but there isn't much left here. but even the U.K. mags with Joe Bonnamassa on the cover are LEAGUES better in every way. design, layout, writing, art, photos, everything.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link