I didn't find the article that terrible; likely the editor demanded it. Did a double-take at "being laden"... don't know Rayner's work well enough to know how closely he writes.
If I had to put money on it: they'll stop touring on their own for a while but get support on the festival circuit.
― Adam J Duncan, Thursday, 19 November 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link
A simple thinkpiece on how awful and difficult it must be for the band, but as soon as you bring in "and of course they can never play again and shame on them if you do" takes it straight through "thanks, desk jockey, how do you know so much about performing?" territory into the land of solipsistic my fear = your morality bullshit..
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 19 November 2015 08:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i read the article on the guardian website a while after it was posted.
thread BTL was full of deleted comments and closed within a very short space of time !
the thread on the bands facebook page had comments from people who were amongst the chaos, and makes for heavy reading.
― mark e, Thursday, 19 November 2015 08:57 (eight years ago) link
http://www.vice.com/read/coming-soon-the-eagles-of-death-metal-speak-out-for-the-first-time-since-the-paris-attacks
― how's life, Sunday, 22 November 2015 10:23 (eight years ago) link
Jesus Christ. people getting found hiding in the dressing room and slaughtered.
we played Brussels night before last under a level 3 terror threat and as we were leaving town they upped it to 4. During our show, there were one or two soldiers with machine guns strolling through the building, but when we came back in the morning to get our gear, the whole place had been handed over to soldiers: they were the ones who let us in to get our stuff. the venue then cancelled the next week of shows. there were soldiers on every corner on the way out of town.
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:48 (eight years ago) link
Jesus.
― how's life, Sunday, 22 November 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link
Their Vice interview is now live in full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n74HBrrFnIc
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
no words
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
Not much to say, but it is well worth watching. And very, very hard to watch.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, definitely - very difficult. Made me realize it must be so hard for anyone there to speak publicly about it given the shock and trauma they might be experiencing.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
exactly. i started watching this at work today, and had to call it quits as i work in an open plan office and within a few minutes i was in bits.not sure i could face a camera crew/interviewer this soon had i experienced such a situation.jesse looks totally fucked up, and appears to be struggling with the emotional fallout.hope they get to fulfil their wish re being the first band to play at the bataclan if/when it reopens.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link
that was so hard to watch, and so moving
jesus
― wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 28 November 2015 04:15 (eight years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/12/07/458847408/eagles-of-death-metal-returns-to-paris-for-concert-appearance?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, a good statement. I'm apprehensive though about what Jesse will have to say if he ever really opens up about this in an interview.― how's life, Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:29 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― how's life, Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:29 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://exclaim.ca/music/article/bataclan_responds_to_jesse_hughes_accusations_that_security_was_in_on_paris_attacks
ugh.
― how's life, Saturday, 12 March 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link
The article has been updated to include his apologies by the way
― StanM, Saturday, 12 March 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
i don't blame him... makes sense given his experience & headspace rn...
― flappy bird, Sunday, 13 March 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link
this guy keeps making himself less and less sympathetic
― Hey (Extended Mix), Sunday, 13 March 2016 04:50 (eight years ago) link
nah c'mon now, I don't share the man's politics, but if some hundreds of people came out to see me play a show, and 80 odd of them were gunned down by maniacs AT THE SHOW? MID SET? i can't even imagine reacting to that. certainly would never pick up a guitar again, and this guy came back to town to finish the show weeks later. if anybody gets a pass to say wild shit on fox news it is this guy
― sheesh, Sunday, 13 March 2016 06:53 (eight years ago) link
okay, but don't bands usually have publicists or minders who could tell him to not say that kind of wild shit for a while?
― StanM, Sunday, 13 March 2016 07:46 (eight years ago) link
The guy contributed to conspiracy theory nonsense. I got into a brief discussion with someone who swears that six security guards called out because they knew it was coming.
I am sorry he went through what he did, but contributing to the delusional fiction of conspiracy theorists is not something I forgive very easily.
There are people who seriously believe things like he said and they use his words as "evidence" for that belief.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 13 March 2016 10:59 (eight years ago) link
I'm not trying to grit on a dude who's been through an utterly horrific experience. Just that, as a fan of the band, I was worried that something like this would be coming.
― how's life, Sunday, 13 March 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35797322
total apology and withdrawal of comment.
― Mark G, Monday, 14 March 2016 01:39 (eight years ago) link
What a piece of shit
http://takimag.com/article/surrendering_to_death_gavin_mcinnes#axzz48eHFAnVC
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 May 2016 00:17 (eight years ago) link
Reads to me like Jesse is not dealing well with this at all, no matter what he claims, and is in retreating even further into the far-right nutcase/paranoia bullshit he was already suffering from. The piece of shit, as always, is McInnes. I feel bad for the club's employees and owners, and for the other bandmembers who are, for a second time, going to have to clean up after Jesse. Awful situation when someone is losing their mind in public.
― jaywbabcock, Sunday, 15 May 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link
Why not take him at his word about what he saw? Nothing that outlandish said there.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 15 May 2016 03:09 (eight years ago) link
When the police or whoever is doing the investigating corroborate what he's saying about 'inside job' and so forth, I will take Jesse at whatever his current word is (since it changes, as we've seen). But until then, this account is, for me, something like trauma-induced motivated reasoning.
― jaywbabcock, Sunday, 15 May 2016 03:24 (eight years ago) link
Nothing that outlandish said there.
"I just chalked it up to Arab envy. You know what I mean? When a Muslim sees a cocky American dude with tattoos, he stares at him."
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 15 May 2016 05:27 (eight years ago) link
A day after, at the stadium, Muslims booed the moment of silence and we barely heard about it in the press. I saw Muslims celebrating in the street during the attack. I saw it with my own eyes. In real time! How did they know what was going on? There must have been coordination.
― nomar, Sunday, 15 May 2016 06:27 (eight years ago) link
He's not a Catholic minister. He was ordained through the Universal life Church. I'm ordained through the Universal Life Church for fucks sake.
― how's life, Sunday, 15 May 2016 12:33 (eight years ago) link
chances of me opening a takimag link = 0.000000
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 15 May 2016 12:39 (eight years ago) link
if you clicked on 'Eagles of Death Metal- Death By Sexxxy' then you are in no position to sniff at takimag
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:06 (eight years ago) link
ha, fair
takimag wasn't at the centre of a massive terrorist event
unfor
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link
je serai taki
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link
You never see bad guys in movies who are Arab terrorists. It’s always Germans or French…
Or conservative Christian rednecks. They’re apparently what’s wrong with everything in the world now, including global warming. What about the other ice age we went through? There were no Christian Republicans back then. What caused that meltdown?
The other problem with that is, when you get rid of these Christian rednecks, you create a vacuum and it gets filled with people way worse. It gets filled with Islam. You end up replacing evangelism with sharia law.
Politicians behave better when they know people are watching. We behave better when we believe Jesus is watching us.
These atheists tell us we don’t need religion, yet everyone seems to be creating flimsy substitutes to replace it. Rehab is just Lent. Meditation is just Latin Mass. Seeing a therapist is just talking to your priest.
And the thing about the Bible is it’s written down. A therapist can change his diagnosis just like that and there’s no way of calling him out on it.
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:42 (eight years ago) link
flappy bird – in all honesty, and though one wouldn't wish to cast aspersions, it probably ought to be noted that you have overlooked several outlandish claims in that extract alone
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link
seems like a great publication
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― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:02 (eight years ago) link
takimag has a links page! no guestbook tho, and they don't appear to belong to any webrings. sad!
― it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/c_limit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_680/kyb8iig6mhqms8l40guf.jpg
― Treeship, Sunday, 15 May 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
lol i read that whole interview thinking it was the tavi girl's website and was like this is a very strange choice for this venue
― adam, Sunday, 15 May 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link
I think flappy was referring specifically to hughes' experience the day of the attack, not his/taki's horrifying (outlandish even) opinions about the attack
― it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link
wow fuck this guy.
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link
World War III imminent?
― a mom shaped pom (wins), Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Jesse Hughes: I saw fear fall like a blanket on the whole crowd and they fell like wheat in the wind—the way you would before a god. I was totally alert from the very beginning. The first thing I needed to do was find my girl. Fear took a backseat and “where’s my girl?” took over.
so did he ever find his daughter? hope she's ok.
― Sufjan Grafton, Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
― it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:02 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes, sorry for not being clear! i was referring to the backdoor being propped open, the security acting suspicious, letting people in. i also have empathy for him, can't imagine what he's going through, and beyond the details of what happened and what he saw happen at the bataclan, it's pretty, well, outlandish...
― flappy bird, Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link
xp i think he's referring to his girlfriend, afaik she's ok
Make it stop.
― RIP Skeletons in the Closet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link
was jesse always this nuts or is this the PTSD talking?
http://www.factmag.com/2016/05/20/eagles-of-death-metal-dropped-french-festivals-terrorism/
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 20 May 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link
oh sorry, already discussed.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 20 May 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
A letter to Jesse Hughes from a fellow Bataclan survivor
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 12:17 (eight years ago) link
gavin mcinnes is one of the most vile human beings alive right now.
― maura, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 12:26 (eight years ago) link