one of the more striking memories I have from elementary school is hearing 'interstate love song' on the car radio when getting a ride with this kid's parent for a field trip. I don't remember what the field trip was - I know the kid's name was stevie and he was a real problem child and his dad was kinda an idiot, kinda wish I knew his last name so I could google him and see what happens later in life to that 3rd grade kid who showed everyone his penis.
anyway the song felt like such a perfect car-radio-highway song even at the time that it made a permanent impression on my brain. it's a really good song.
a few years later I won the album 'no 4' from a radio call in contest. 'I got you' is a great deep cut if anyone wants a good stp song they might not have heard.
― iatee, Saturday, 5 December 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link
My friends and I never liked them in high school. They were music for kids with clean flannels and haircuts. Spoiled for choice, narcissism of small differences, punk hipster bullshit. I wish they still made radio rock like this. R.I.P. Weiland.
― how's life, Saturday, 5 December 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
OTM.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link
Might as well repost this:---For some reason I thought I had already posted about how at CTY one summer I learned Big Empty off the OST and played/sang it acoustic at the talent show. Later that day the girl I had a crush on came over to me and said "all the girls on my floor think you have a sexy voice," -- to which the only response I could muster was a squeaky "cool!" She made a grossed-out face and walked away.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:23 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link
clean flannels
deadly
― j., Saturday, 5 December 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link
Giving Tiny Music a spin for the first time in a while, it's actually surprisingly good, some of it better than Purple. My memory of it at the time was it was just sort of an out of place, out of time record. The world had tired of STP and there wasn't an easy category for their stylistic change.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
Tiny Music is fantastic. The only STP album I ever really want to listen to.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 5 December 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link
I love "Tumble in the Rough"
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link
He was a power pop guy. He loved Brian Wilson and the Beatles. That's what I'm suddenly realizing.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link
i remember listening to the radio when they debuted "big bang baby" and afterwards the dj said something like "i guess we have to stop calling them clone temple pilots." of course it was derivative in a different way but it was pretty offbeat for the time and is still kind of a great song.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link
i hated it at first cos I was like "wtf is this high pitched kiddie voice Scott is doing" but I grew to love the song on repeat listens really fast.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link
that song I really dug even at the time, but didn't give the whole record that much of a chance
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link
some of it was weird, like Weiland's "redrum" backing vocals on "Art School Girl".
I liked "Lady Picture Show" a lot at the time.
"And So I KNow" was pretty much Girl from Ipanema....
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link
Art School Girl is kind of a low point. He wasn't the greatest lyricist.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:20 (eight years ago) link
"Adhesive" was another one I really enjoyed from that album. had quite a glam-cum-Beatles chorus
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
when the dogs do find her, got time, time to wait for tomorrow to find it, to find it, to find it
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
find what
― j., Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:51 (eight years ago) link
spent the day listening to deep cuts:http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2015/12/deep-album-cuts-vol-53-stone-temple.html
was disappointed by how little STP i heard on rock stations today when i was driving around, though, only "Sex Type Thing" and "Wicked Garden." they had a nice little run there, i can't think of many bands who i hated as much on their first album who improved so quickly on the next couple albums.
― just knocked me cold and left me on the sidewalk (some dude), Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:53 (eight years ago) link
HER NAME IS WHAT IT MEANS
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 5 December 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link
Chuck had a great o_O quote in the expanded Stairway from (iirc) Josh Clover/Jane Dark from around the time of Tiny Music, about how "[The band was] a great advertisement for drug addiction: No group benefited more from forgetting what they sounded like 5 minutes ago..."
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 December 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link
it's a bit of a pun
One line in the second verse goes "Her name is what it means." This line is a bit of a pun, referring to the similarities between the words "heroin" (the drug) and "heroine" (a female hero). Scott Weiland was known for frequent drug use throughout his musical career. He is saying that heroin is his heroine, that drugs are his hero. (thanks, Aki - Sunrise, FL)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 December 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link
sebadoh, to use the most flagrant example, spent an inordinate amount of time in my interview with them to mock STP. many, many other bands I interviewed in the 90s did the same. this tells me that STP made an impact.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:00 (eight years ago) link
STP are to the nineties what Kings of Leon were to the 00s. Pop up out of nowhere, get famous quickly, make zero friends in their peer group, then divebomb.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:05 (eight years ago) link
I don't hate this dude or this band but I'm pretty shocked at the outpouring of love for STP and their records on Twitter/ILM last night and today. I had no idea so many knowledgeable and passionate music lovers held them in such high regard.
― alpine static, Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:21 (eight years ago) link
Seems like the fact that "All In The Suit That You Wear" (the bait track on their hits set) was intended for the first Spiderman movie, but pulled when that Nickleback/Saliva thing was picked instead as the lead single really feels in retrospect like a turning point in popular tastes.
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:28 (eight years ago) link
Just guessing that STP are one of those bands that broke big when a particular group of "knowledgeable and passionate music lovers" were adolescents. You always love the stuff that turned you on at that age, even though your tastes have grown deeper and more "respectable" with age.
It's why I still listen to Cinderella or Def Leppard with zero irony.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:29 (eight years ago) link
I imagine they worked as a good gateway band into other stuff...dropping names like Bowie's and Bolan in early 90s interviews probably brought a lot of their fans in the US into vintage Glam for one thing.
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link
I was not an an adolescent when STP hit. I was 24. at that time, I was well into all manner of shit that smug, Johnny come lately in 2015 record collectors consider compulsory.
to me, STP was as much part of the landscape as the Chronic. cuts from either records swagger the same way. Gerard Cosloy and other individuals like, say, Michael Azerrad (reading Our band could be your life for the first time now; my, what poor writer he is) were so offended by popular culture/approximations of the 80s underground that they could not comprehend that music of substance could result outside of their peer group.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:50 (eight years ago) link
I don't really have any feeling for STP beyond the first four chords of "Plush," which are all-time.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 5 December 2015 05:51 (eight years ago) link
ah, 24
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 December 2015 06:02 (eight years ago) link
Gaz Coombes
― mattresslessness, Saturday, 5 December 2015 06:04 (eight years ago) link
interview shot two days before the news.
this is like staring death in the face and genuinely makes me feel gross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ComxFAagceo
― hackshaw, Saturday, 5 December 2015 06:26 (eight years ago) link
he seems alright there!
― Spottie, Saturday, 5 December 2015 07:00 (eight years ago) link
Michael Azerrad's an excellent writer when he just sticks to reportage, irritating when he offers up his fucking opinions. He's like a lot of rock biographers that way - ever read Jimmy McDonough's Shakey?
STP was kinda my gateway to rock music so it's hard to be objective about them - I was 11 when Purple came out and accessed the band via MTV and the video for "Vasoline," which clip deployed every far-out trick in the book during a brief moment when pop surrealism was in vogue. Spin hated them because they were obvious Rock Pros/Rock Bros/opportunists who had the good sense to seize on someone else's musical movement just as it went supernova, and they got there earlier and with a bigger commercial payoff than any of the other pretenders to Cobain & Vedder's throne. That they were vastly more skilled and more versatile than Candlebox/Collective Soul/Bush et. al. only became obvious to most when grunge was already history. I wore out my cassette tape of Purple 19 years ago - it hasn't improved with age - but I still happily spin albums 3, 4, and 5 on occasion today. Scott Weiland, poor guy, was barely functional even before he got 86ed from Velvet Revolver. Difficult person though he obviously was, he came off as a far more decent guy in his not-great autobio (which I read most of in about an hour of perusal at the local bookstore) than such famous junkies as former bandmate Slash and Anthony Kiedis in their respective tomes. Weiland seemed to think getting clean just meant kicking heroin - he was always consistent about the date he gave up junk, so I believed him; he could have been high on all kinds of other things after 2003, which people seem to forget whenever they watch one of the innumerable train-wreck live performances on YouTube etc. - and taking that kind of shortcut to rehabilitation probably killed him if anything. I wouldn't wish his last 10 years on anybody. R.I.P.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Saturday, 5 December 2015 07:00 (eight years ago) link
I feel like it's less an outpouring of love than they did something really specific and the landscape would've seemed kinda incomplete without them
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 December 2015 07:26 (eight years ago) link
anyway incidentally 12 bar blues is a crazy good fake bowie record
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 December 2015 07:36 (eight years ago) link
Kind of sad that his last interview was pretty much like answering a fucking shallow facebook quizz. I've seen better questions on the tests in fashion magazines. What was that about?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 5 December 2015 08:56 (eight years ago) link
Where you going where the mice are found?
I always imagined this to be a granary or corn crib, maybe? Alternately, the city of Anaheim?
― how's life, Saturday, 5 December 2015 11:54 (eight years ago) link
It's "where you going with the mask I've found"
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 5 December 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link
Where you going with the mascarpone?
― how's life, Saturday, 5 December 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link
feelin like a ham and mustard chain
― billstevejim, Saturday, 5 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link
damn
http://buffalo.com/2015/12/04/featured/an-open-letter-to-scott-weiland-so-this-is-where-it-ends/
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 6 December 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
oh boy, an open letter to someone who is dead
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link
The chords for "and so it goes" run through my head frequently. Better than the majority of 90s lounge revival scum. Really sucks that weiland never did a loungey/bossanova album (or did he?)
― brimstead, Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
I mean it's a really sweet piece and yet
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
xxpost it's a pretentious conceit and written with the skill of a 9th grade English student but the 'letter' itself isn't a hatchet job or anything.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link
right
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link
I just hate the framing*
*he said about everything published on the internet in 2015
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
going back u.t., I never really got the STP = Pearl Jam complaints, at least where Core is concerned. yes, the vocal style similarities are there (especially in how Weiland overly featured his low voice and fitted it with a Vedderesque twang, which he wisely distanced himself from later). granted Ten was more commercial and polished than what followed but the music was still more hippy-dippy and jammy in places.
I wouldn't say Core was original though either. it was more guilty of being faceless 'heavy' leaden grunge. they threw a lot of meathead riffs in there ("Piece of Pie", "Dead and Bloated"), just didn't have the hooks of their peers. I still like a lot of the songs on it tho. "Wicked Garden", and "Naked Sunday" has always been an interesting one to me. "Crackerman" is embarrassing though.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link
i still love the "wet my bed" segue into "crackerman."
the "stp = pearl jam" people have always been worth ignoring. they're probably among those who also hear a lineage from nevermind to puddle of mudd and nickelback.
― billstevejim, Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link