Why does Bill Magill hate II so much?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Guys the fourth record is not called "Zoso," come on.
2. IV/Houses of the Holy
It's not called "IV" either.
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
isn't it untitled?
― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
1. Physical Grafitti 2. Coda (complete box set vers)3. III4. II5. Four6. Houses of the Holy7. Presence8. In Through The Out Door9. I10. other records by other bands
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
True enough but "Zoso" is WAY OUTTA LINE...anyway it's not a word, it's a symbol representing Saturn... /end pre-pubescent pedantry
― Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link
"Why does Bill Magill hate II so much?"
???????????????????? It's certainly not my favorite, but I don't know if "hate" describes my feelings for it.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I hate II with a passion rivalling my feelings for post-rehab Aerosmith.― Bill Magill, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:27 (1 year ago)
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:27 (1 year ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice work. I forgot I said that. I don't like it, I especially dislike the Lemon Song. Plus I have no use for Heartbreaker/LLM or Whole Lotta Love. I like What Is.. and Ramble On. That's about it.
I'm really not the biggest Zeppelin fan at all.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
weird. i always saw II as more or less the blueprint for early-Sabbath. what could be more Bill than that?
― \m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I would have thought the same.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
It never clicked with me. I don't know about II having much influence on Sabbath, I know they were gigging pretty hard by then and already had what they were going to put on wax, at least initally, pretty worked out. They were heavily influenced by a lot of the stuff on I.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
II does kind of blow...Whole Lotta Love is pretty much summation of first album, and I do like What Is, Ramble On (dig that mellotron), I even like LLM & Heartbreaker: extending the quicksilver pop of Communication Breakdown, but just before it reached perfection on III with Immigrant Song and Out on the Tiles...still cmon...Lemon Song and Bring it on Home are as cumbersome and boring as anything on Daydream Nation, and Moby Dick is even worse...a terrible idea for an album track...II is definitely a classic example of the hastily patched-together follow-up album, but since Zep are pretty much Norse gods of teh rawk, it still rules at least 70% of the time...I'd prolley rank it just below Zoso/IV/untitled/stfu...
― jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah Thank You kind of sucks...Planet Caravan shits upon it from the golden heavens...
― jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Lemon Song and Bring it on Home are as cumbersome and boring as anything on Daydream Nation, and Moby Dick is even worse
don't really care what anyone says about DayDream Nation but COME ON!! The riffs in Mobdy Dick and Bring it are monstrous. the drums at the end of Moby DIck are tedious sure but I think the inclusion of that part was an attempt to recreate the Zeppelin live show on record (something that was not uncommon in 1969). "Bring It On Home" is like a lightning bolt explosion through an old jukejoint
― crab ringgoon (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i also love "Lemon Song" but I'm an ex-Page supernerd
― crab ringgoon (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
the Lemon Song smokes. It's got some of the nicest John Paul Jones bass playing on record. I've always thought J.P.J. was the undercover magic in this band. This cut also has some choice Bonham playing as well - listen to his in-the-pocket syncopation off of Jones' giant bass riffs about a third of the way into the song...damn.
― sknybrg, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link
zeppelin ii is awesome. "bring it on home" and "heartbreaker" have two of their swaggeriest riffs
― kamerad, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link
funny that this thread was started in april and is now revived in april, the same week i with no outside prompting whatsoever have been listening to houses of the holy and ii on the ipod. in springtime a man's fancy turns to zep?
anyway, i would've voted houses if i'd voted in this. what a set of songs, and the playing is so loose and good.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link
just coincidence, I didn't realise I started it a year ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Would've picked III, I think it's the only one of theirs where I enjoy every track. Picking a second place would be tricky though - HotH has six amazing songs and two throwaways, PG is a classic throw-it-all-in double-album, side one of IV suffers from radio/pub/rock club overkill but the second half is flawless.
― Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I still haven't heard In Through The Out Door though. Or Coda or The Song Remains The Same...
― Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link
ITTOD got completely gypped here...
Fool in the Rain! Carouselambra! Come on people.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link
disregard my last post...challopsy tripe...I'm sorry; I haven't listened to II in years...
― jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I know there's backlash against "Stairway" for being the most played song in the history of ever, but there's no denying that it's just an astonishing piece of music.
― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:22 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkyeah its coda is just completely fucking unbelievable & doesn't really get old
― Hans Rott
This.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Recently, I got admittedly worn copies of II and IV on the original plum Atlantic.
I sort of skimmed through II, wasn't struck.
IV does have the overplayed "Stairway", but I'd describe that album as 'pretty good after all"
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link
.. but BOY was there ever a band who spawned so many imitators that did not share their influences...
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I was talking with my dad last week and it got me thinking about how radio formats may radically influence perception/baggage around bands like Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc. Basically my dad knew See Emily Play and Another Brick in the Wall (as they were the singles and played on radio), but was only dimly aware of the stuff in the middle - they may as well have broken up in 68 and reformed in 78. I'd never really grasped how big a deal bands like Floyd and Zeppelin not releasing singles in Britain was (although Zeppelin did release Immigrant Song/Hey Hey What Can I Do).
Not releasing singles meant opting out of an entire chunk of the industry - not being played on mainstream radio, not lip-synching on Top Of The Pops. In contrast, AOR stations meant that the average American listener was carpet-bombed with this stuff. When I started listening to Zeppelin, Floyd, Dazed and Confused soundtrack type stuff aged 18 (a decade ago), it was all genuinely fresh and exciting - there's no such thing as classic rock radio so I'd never heard any of it, and neither had most of my friends.
― Veðrafjǫrðr heimamaður (ecuador_with_a_c), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
there's no such thing as classic rock radio so I'd never heard any of it, and neither had most of my friends
slowly, i began to understand wtf the britpress sees in Kings of Leon
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
what does "kings of leon" mean, anyway? it's a dumb name. dumb. then i read this on wiki:
Each member of the family group is known by his middle name (second given name) as opposed to his first given name
this band has a problem with dumb names and dumb name tricks.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry; i guess that's better said on a "kings of l(ol)eon" thread. this is a l(ol)ed zepplin thread.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41V0QZTGD3L.jpg
― Canadian Club & Dr. Pepper (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
III or Grafitti. I hate II with a passion rivalling my feelings for post-rehab Aerosmith.― Bill Magill, Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
WAIT A MINUTE WHUT
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
The aesthetics of the poll results please me
― Vinnie, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link
Presence was robbed.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
there are lots of folks that genuinely hate Presence. I love it. "Achille's Last Stand" is definitely proto-metal
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
Don't get hating Presence at all. I can see not liking it as much as other LZ records, but if you like Zeppelin why would you deny yourself the majesty of Presence?
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
I think lots of folk tend to gravitate towards either early Zep or later Zep more, guessing most of the Presence haters are more early-Zep fans. Obviously that's oversimplifying a bit but I definitely started out as more of a late-Zep fiend before I developed more appreciation for blues-based rock. would still put Houses of the Holy up top.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link
"bring it on home" = best album closer
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
I am a very latecomer to Led Zeppelin albums and Presence is easily my favorite, has such a consistent sound/groove, doesn't have songs you've heard a million times on the radio, only one boring blues jam. Last week I thought "maybe I should listen to a non-Presence LZ album for a change" so I tried "In Through the Out Door" and after a few songs I just put Presence back on.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
"Achilles Last Stand" is so amazing.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
The top five results are basically correct in any order (any of the five could be my favorite depending on the day), with the first two and Presence trailing just a bit behind.
― Surprise, It's My Butt (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link
Man make sure you give "Carouselambra" some time, that song is great. In Through The Out Door definitely has its moments, but it isn't a great straight listen compared to Presence etc.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, that is in regards to In Through The Out Door generally.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
man got to give it up to the wisdom of crowds, that's precisely the order i'd have them in
― balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Fuck man, gonna listen to "Carouselambra" right now.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, reading/talking/thinking about Led Zeppelin pretty much always makes me want to listen to Led Zeppelin. See also: eating, walking, sleeping.
― Surprise, It's My Butt (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
i admire presence but i don't often enjoy it. a lot of it seems gruelling. a lot of it seems joyless. if i never hear dinner for two (or whatever that really long cousin-of-since-i'v-been-loving-you that closes the album is called) again i'd be fine with that.
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link
The intro to that song is great though, wish they had built a song around that.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah, definitely. quite a bait and switch, "oh shit, loving the sassy groove of this, oh wait oh no it's going slow did someone buy jimmy some junk?"
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link
Hah yeah, pretty much.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link