in college i would deliberately get into genres i had no previous interest in, mostly because i was encountering perspectives on them from people whose taste and ideas i really respected and trusted. so i got into metal, techno, dancehall... like, everything i could get my hands on, bc there was something other people saw in them, so i wanted to find that thing they saw, or find my own thing that i saw.
this has contracted considerably over the years bc eventually i kind of just focused on the music i got the most out of, which was like: boogie/electro funk, emo, death metal, house, jazz, jazz fusion that anticipates smooth jazz, '70s prog bands who tried to have hits in the '80s, etc. a lot of these genres have interrelated qualities that i respond to in each; for instance the way i respond to the lopsided rhythms in afropop is v v similar to my response to the same thing in death metal. idk if it's useful to refer to it as dilettantism, bc i really try to know as much as possible about everything i listen to bc context is paramount for me. but it's also probably dilettantism lol
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
i think a good test for eclecticism is half of your favorite records at any given time could not be connected to each other kevin bacon-style with less than 3 or 4 hops.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link
god I'm going to be that person, aren't I? The person who says that eclectic is relative, and thus, eclectic compared to whom? IRL friends and acquaintances? Our parents? What we imagine the "average person" to be?
That said, I'm pretty much in agreement with flopson re ilx and eclecticism.
― sarahell, Tuesday, January 5, 2016 3:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i was almost this person too, i even typed this up in just as many words and then didn't post it
― flopson, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link
yeah i'm sort of reluctant to refer to my taste as "eclectic" bc i'm always going to think i listen to a relatively narrow range of music
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
fwiw brad i think of your tastes as highly eclective even relative to the ilx median. maybe not quite skot level but up there
― flopson, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link
I only like good music
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link
omg me too
― flopson, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
idk i had a blast listening to the Worst Of 2015 playlist last night
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link
i guess i didn't like the music tho
it'll be an interesting experiment to compare the two once the Best of 2015 is decided.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
I was willfully eclectic during my late teens (not coincidentally, around the same time I discovered ILM);subsequently embarrassed by the extent & the vague neocolonial trappings of my willful eclecticism;and am currently afraid of music.
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
sounds like there's only one album for you thenhttps://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmichaelsprott.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F02%2Ftalkingheadsfearofmusic.jpg&f=1
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
yes. i have eclectic taste in music.
― i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
yes i have electric taste in music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
i agree with most itt that there is something *shudders* about the word eclectic. i think our revulsion stems from an association of eclectic with specific pieces of music, maybe 2000's-era mash-ups?
no, the revulsion stems people thinking it means "i am not like most people, i am interesting and cultured and like many things"
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link
unlike most people, who only like one thing
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link
like how ppl get mad at "foodie" because they think it means "i am better at eating food than you/more cultured"
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link
i mean, it's totally silly who cares
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
i'm saying the people repulsed by "eclectic" or whatever just have bad attitudes about others
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
yeah I get it - joeks bruv
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
ha, namaste
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link
you guys have eclectic taste in peacemaking epithets
― big Mahats (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:16 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:17 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ding ding ding
― flopson, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link
A lot of fans of things can come across that way.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link
I say that as a fan of fandom really.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
foodie seems more populist though. would you rather be pegged as a foodie or a gourmand?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link
i would have to ask compared to who? to be able to answer this question.
Or let other people who know me tell me.
I like to think I do but i maybe dont actually do. Esp compared to music nerds.
― Ted Nü-Djent (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link
so wait you all are saying that characterizing oneself in a general way is related to the perceptions of others? need a list thread hardcore rn.
― big Mahats (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link
i'm eclectic btw
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link
I guess all I meant by my comment is that "I have eclectic taste" is not a very interesting thing to say/discuss in 2016 among music fans. It's certainly not a bad thing, it's just not remarkable.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:53 (eight years ago) link
maybe another way to gauge it is to see how many hours of programming the "eclectic music hour" for your local college radio station would you feel comfortable doing before feeling like a fraud
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link
my local college radio station has a requirement that they have to play at least 3 genres per hour ...
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link
i used to hate music as a kid.
it's alright now i guess. just a lil bit
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link
Absolutely fuck not. The hell with "eclectic" taste in music, it just leads to dilettantism and wishy-washy-ness. I have extremely specific and particular tastes in what I like in music. And all I want to listen to is that thing which is at that moment scratching my itch.The problem is, that That Particular Thing that I get really obsessed with doesn't seem to bear any resemblance whatsoever to whatever it is that people seem to talk about when they talk about "Genre". "Genre" seems to be random attributes thrown together with no regard to whatever it is in that particular artist or piece of music that I like.So, y'know, the with hell eclecticism for the sake of it. But the hell with this notion of "Genre" even harder.― Liebe ist kälter als der Todmorden (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:42 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The problem is, that That Particular Thing that I get really obsessed with doesn't seem to bear any resemblance whatsoever to whatever it is that people seem to talk about when they talk about "Genre". "Genre" seems to be random attributes thrown together with no regard to whatever it is in that particular artist or piece of music that I like.
So, y'know, the with hell eclecticism for the sake of it. But the hell with this notion of "Genre" even harder.
― Liebe ist kälter als der Todmorden (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:42 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
YEAH THISWhen Pandora first came out I was dead excited because I thought it might actually analyse the stuff I liked and find more stuff where the melody does this or the production evokes this exact feeling but no it was more like Spotify's oh hey have you heard of david bowie?
― kinder, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link
A colleague and I drove up to a sub-branch of the company we work for, I was driving my car, ok?
Anyway, he says "Oh, I have quite a wide taste in music" he peruses a bunch of cds that are in the arm between the front seats. He finds Aphex, Sun Ra, Mungo Jerry, Big Audio, and Jane Weaver.
He put them back without comment.
Basically, I'm not saying yes or no.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
mandated diversity in programming always baffled me at KZSC, but then again I was just an entitled stoodent that wanted to be able to play whatever I wanted
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link
is the 3-genre rule station KALX? the metal/noise guy played this once but I could never find the single in shops:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVAt_3WM8Jw
most of the other DJs somehow made the 3 genres sound pretty close to each other though...
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link
embarrassed by the extent & the vague neocolonial trappings of my willful eclecticism
did you see your record/mp3 collection as an assortment of cultural loot ala the british museum? at what point did the records turn from glorious idols to shameful relics? i'm looking for a specific record if possible
― ogmor, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link
this thread is a trap
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link
http://cdn.discogs.com/6G42tOgnKlZ_8pej2uFxhyXwbRc=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/R-1600530-1281755572.jpeg.jpg
― Mordy, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link
xp Philip Nunez - yes, it's KALX. I think KDVS had some similar rules, according to a friend that was a dj there
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dj-nic-harcourt-why-spotify-672688
― hunangarage, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link
Ha, I had assumed the "3 genres/hour" post was a joke.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link
http://openglam.org/files/2014/12/SnowflakesWilsonAlwynBentley.gif
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link
idg the snowflake line. am i supposed to believe that snowflakes are more complex and interesting than ppl or am i supposed to refuse to recognise snowflakes as a significant category and insist that snow is snow only to be understood as an undistinguished tedious mass
― ogmor, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link
what is snow? we don't know. but snow is lots of fun, we know.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link
vonnegut had a similar line that i prefer: "genius is as common as daisies"
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link
― Green Dolphin Street Hassle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 03:35 (eight years ago) link
I think eclecticism entering the mainstream is a positive development, and it connects well with postmodern & poptimist "relativism". Like so many other aesthetic preferences eclecticism could be used for social positioning, but I don't think that's too interesting. I do find it interesting that it seems like most people are able to enjoy most music. Maybe it points toward some shared qualities in all music.
I don't think eclecticism necessarily reinforces conservative genre constructs - eclecticism could just as easily be seen as a critique of genre rigidity, since it makes the case that genre doesn't matter much.
― niels, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 11:36 (eight years ago) link
Instinct is to say 'no' because I know people - mainly online - with much broader taste than me, and I feel like my own taste is ossifying as I get older, in that I know the kinds of things I'd like better and better. But then I also feel like I know nothing of any depth about any particular area when compared to genre specialists, and that I flit about ridiculously from one taxonomical category to another as far as some people are concerned. So I'd probably refer to myself, pejoratively, as a dilettante.
But then I read BraNwell's posts, and basically, aside from the fact that I don't really understand my own exact triggers for enjoyment (not playing an instrument / knowing music qua music as a language), that pretty much sums up where I am.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link