David Bowie R.I.P

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I like 'Absolute Beginners' too, it's just that I find it so easy to forget about it... It's one of those tracks where I'll hear it and wonder why I keep neglecting it.

Turrican, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

his coke-addled praise seems to be primarily for the efficacy of fascism's tactics, the goals towards which they were historically employed are not addressed.

Coke-addled is the word, not that it really matters that much if he was right wing or left wing or no wing. Certainly I can see those statements being more than enough to rile the Marxist-Leninist wing of the North London Branch of the Musicians' Union, ca. 1976.

Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:52 (eight years ago) link

^^Going for $99 & up on Amazon Marketplace ATM (CD version).

XPS The Ryko Singles comp

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:52 (eight years ago) link

absolute beginners feels like a part 2 of heroes, maybe just the way it builds, i always think of them together

love it so much

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:53 (eight years ago) link

I like all his 80s film songs a lot (prefer the soundtrack version of putting out fire to the lets dance version by a mile btw)

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:53 (eight years ago) link

greatest offense of the "rock" mix of "jump they say" is how it splices the "got to believe somebody" hook into the first chorus. the delay is part of why it's so striking, the song seems to be sketching out this claustrophobic territory, then the lester bowie solo throws everything into brief anomie, then the song resumes and subtly expands

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:53 (eight years ago) link

I want a comp of all his film songs rn

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:54 (eight years ago) link

when he leaps out of that grumbled half-spoken verse voice to "They say, 'HEY, that's really something!'" -- goose pimples

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:55 (eight years ago) link

absolute beginners feels like a part 2 of heroes, maybe just the way it builds, i always think of them together

love it so much

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7

Part of his live repertoire from 2000 onward so I guess he agreed.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:56 (eight years ago) link

when he leaps out of that grumbled half-spoken verse voice to "They say, 'HEY, that's really something!'" -- goose pimples

god i'm gonna listen to it again

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 00:57 (eight years ago) link

I always saw 'Teenage Wildlife' as part 2 of '"Heroes"', but strictly in a musical sense.

Turrican, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 01:05 (eight years ago) link

also think the "jump they say" video is one of mark romanek's best pastiches

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 01:17 (eight years ago) link

After listening to a bunch of random albums - Let's Dance, Station to Station, the first side of Low, Young Americans, Aladdin Sane - I put on Changesbowie at dinnertime. You know, something easy for the family to hear. The kids are getting ready for bed and "Heroes" popped on, and I could barely make it through the whole thing.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link

:(

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link

from a friend on FB:

I feel sad for a lot of my friends right now. They were sweet, sad, lonely, weird children who thought they'd die alone and misunderstood. David Bowie made their inner lives public and beautiful and made it possible for them to live as themselves. I know that need and the blessed relief that comes when an artist mirrors your reality. I got it from other artists but I would have died if I hadn't found it somewhere. This has been an occasion to remember that art makes life worth living.

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:01 (eight years ago) link

RE: his coke use in the '80s…there was a Spin article in the mid '80s which more or less indicated, if memory serves, that he made next to no decisions about anything at all at the time and was principally interested in gack. It was Corrine "Coco" Shwab who called every single shot. I have read no references to her in the last 36 hours…like, does Alfred know what happened to her? there can be little doubt that he was very collected and alert during the Berlin period, and indeed, what I think was the trynka book (is it from the early 00s? can't find it) contends that the idea was to go to berlin to get away from LA…he traded the global coke capital for the european heroin capital, but he mainly drank with Iggy there, and then was pretty focused and straight for the late 70s. evidently he got back into it in the mid '80s, and the clear implication of that Spin article was the Schwab liked it that way because she could control him.

RE: whether velvet goldmine was accurate as to DB being a fuckin' asshole in 71-73 —that same book from the 00s claimed that he was hugely arrogant and indeed fucked people over all the time. To be sure, this could said of many many very successful people in their 20s looking to become more successful, much less a guy who wielded enormous power at that time. Many people would do whatever he asked…drugs, sex, you name it…again, he got over this fairly quickly and became universally pleasant. He certainly was to me.

the Spin article, I think, reflected some displeasure towards his mid 80s, Pepsi commercial with Tina Turner, NLMD, Peter Frampton mullet period, like "how could he do this? why does he want to be like Michael Jackson?" … I certainly thought that he was sucking after thinking he was fucking great, and it took getting the berlin records in the late 80s as well as Tin Machine (I liked them and saw them at the Academy on 43rd st., 1991) but this article might have been inspired by him having offended the Gooch in some manner…heaven knows Bob Jr. pursued grudges just as avidly as Jann W.

DB and I discussed smoking: he said that he was smoking 70 cigs a day before he quit. I don't recall if we talked about drinking. Again, I was nervous as a motherfucker because I had to ask him mortifyingly stupid questions, as Blender employees had to, but he set me at ease immediately and we had a delightful time.

veronica moser, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link

Coco seems to disappear in the '90s. He used to say that he spent the mid '80s in Montreux painting. Is "painting" code for "booching"?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:19 (eight years ago) link

Coco was still his manager (PA?) in 2005

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link

i just listened to Hunky Dory. wow. some of the songs get a little too daft but it's still fun. "Queen Bitch" is amazing. he is trying for Velvet Underground but inventing the New York Dolls. i love the attention to detail in the lyrics:

And I'm phoning a cab cause my stomach feels small
There's a taste in my mouth and it's no taste at all

this perfectly captures the feeling of being bombed out and dislocated.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 03:14 (eight years ago) link

Recent reference to Coco shows up in Adrian Belew anecdote.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 03:46 (eight years ago) link

whoever skipped Scary Monsters is crazy, it is The Lodger 2

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 03:55 (eight years ago) link

I feel sad for a lot of my friends right now. They were sweet, sad, lonely, weird children who thought they'd die alone and misunderstood. David Bowie made their inner lives public and beautiful and made it possible for them to live as themselves. I know that need and the blessed relief that comes when an artist mirrors your reality. I got it from other artists but I would have died if I hadn't found it somewhere. This has been an occasion to remember that art makes life worth living.

― sleeve, Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:01 PM (1 hour ago)

yes

it's like my whole world believes it this week

j., Wednesday, 13 January 2016 04:01 (eight years ago) link

This has been an occasion to remember that art makes life worth living.

yeah

Mr. Snroombes (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 04:03 (eight years ago) link

I know right? Every time I read that I tear up. It was written by Jon Nelson on FB.

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 04:11 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnOhBykB-z4

Sons of the silent age
Make love only once
but dream and dream
They don't walk,
they just glide in and out of life
They never die,
they just go to sleep one day

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 04:11 (eight years ago) link

Gah how is it even possible that every DB song is actually about DB himself

Davey D, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 05:00 (eight years ago) link

i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i've never done anything out of the blue

akm, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 05:18 (eight years ago) link

Has this been posted? Just seen on my twitter feed. Bowie + Cher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOmKLGNEYBw

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 07:35 (eight years ago) link

Oh, is that where he kicks off "Young Americans" and breaks off into "Agadoo" or some such?

I saw that for the first time about 2 weeks ago..

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 07:47 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezmLz19zsNU

this then..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 08:20 (eight years ago) link

Have you seen the one with Captain Kangaroo?

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:00 (eight years ago) link

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHnKsixhGrg&sns=fb

chicken danczuk (suzy), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:04 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHnKsixhGrg&sns=fb

chicken danczuk (suzy), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link

that's beautiful <3

Roz, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link

That second Cher video above is bonkers on so many levels. She looks like she's got that Aleister Crowley hat on.

Hearing him dip into early rock and roll makes me wish he did another Pin-Ups type record geared more toward that music (Lennon, Lou, Neil Young, Robert Plant). That plaintive, longing quality in his voice would have been so right on an album of Doc Pomus and Roy Orbison tunes.

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 13:13 (eight years ago) link

xxpost re Absolute Beginners, the version on Bowie at the Beeb from a while back (the second, live disk) is baroque, completely OTT melodrama with every conceivable flourish and somehow absolutely destroys. I have cried to it on several occasions since whenever it came out and am sort of afraid (!) to listen to it now...

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link

above I meant that so many of DB's peers ventured into that territory

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link

God, The Idiot is just about the ugliest great pop album ever. That Dinah Shore clip above is amazing. Did her booker have time to clean out his office or was he just escorted directly off the premises?

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 13:42 (eight years ago) link

Hulu had a great Dick Cavett show appearance by Bowie on the front page last night....doing 1984 and Young Americans with the Young Americans soul band - you can see Luther Vandross on backing vox....holy shit the interview part was uncomfortable Bowie is soooooo coked up and fidgety and odd, he's sniffing constantly and won't make eye contact with Cavett and keeps fiddling with the cane he has an affectation....looks like he's weighing all of 90 lbs

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

Hulu had a great Dick Cavett show appearance by Bowie on the front page last night....doing 1984 and Young Americans with the Young Americans soul band - you can see Luther Vandross on backing vox....holy shit the interview part was uncomfortable Bowie is soooooo coked up and fidgety and odd, he's sniffing constantly and won't make eye contact with Cavett and keeps fiddling with the cane he has an affectation....looks like he's weighing all of 90 lbs

this was on the DVD that was included with the YA reissue a few years back.

mark e, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

He's drawing something awful on the carpet with his cane.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link

Absolute Beginners, the version on Bowie at the Beeb from a while back (the second, live disk) is baroque, completely OTT melodrama with every conceivable flourish and somehow absolutely destroys.

Even the original - it feels over-the-top but sincere, not retro. Love the piano, love the chord changes, love the lyrics. It also feels like the culmination of his backup-singer-men+sax years, and its pinnacle.

longform Gordon thinkpiece (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

cavett thing is also on youtube

marcos, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

holy shit the interview part was uncomfortable Bowie is soooooo coked up and fidgety and odd

He's like that on Soul Train, too, which was probably within days or weeks of the Cavett appearance. iirc, multiple takes were needed, and at one point Don Cornelius had to take him aside and say, "What the hell is wrong with you? Get your shit together."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link

i just watched the cavett thing today! cocaine. love the room sound of that show for the band.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

there is a much higher quality version out there (from the Bowie DVD) that has details you miss in the youtube video. it is marvelous, it looks like it was filmed inside of cotton candy. so much glitter, so much lens glare. he was a shining god.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

Busta Rhymes

David...

I think back to this time when you moby and I basically were roommates for 3 months...

You made it so impossible for anyone not to laugh or smile that you were basically the sunshine of the tour!

U were the rockstar, the gentleman, the teacher n student and the mark u left on all us is
Enormous. U will 4ever be my friend, big brother and Inspiration. Until we meet again Travel in Harmony.

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nomar, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

what a life

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

10 lives in a life.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

not making eye contact w/ Cavett is a good move imho

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link


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