I like Marc Masters' ballot the best so far
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 15 January 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link
I forgot about that Obnox album he listed. They/he were good live last year. I like the punkier and poppier (Chills) stuff he listed, more than the noisier/experimental ones.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 January 2016 14:38 (eight years ago) link
Ha. I'm the opposite.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 15 January 2016 14:47 (eight years ago) link
instead of making it feel like a very boring day job
man can't you just let these sad pros have their fun
― j., Friday, 15 January 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link
I'm finding that searching the furia stats is much easier/better (can search by artist for example).Glenn is there a way to search for 'breadth'? I think that's a stat of interest to me.
― campreverb, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
Glenn, not sure if this is anything you're actually interested in or care about, but have you ever inquired about getting older data?
I know the voice site swallowed and distorted many of the aughts polls, but I bet the original ballots are somewhere to be found...
I know I can def access, like, my 2003 ballot via wayback machine
― ♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 January 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
I just clicked on the 5 most similar ballots to MMast3rs and there were a couple Wilco votes here and there, but lots of other stuff I didn't know (granted, Dinsdale, you and I are different humans).
D*ve S3gal of The Stranger in Seattle - who is one of Mast3rs' similar ballots, and may be on ILM? - is a fave of mine as far as finding interesting/weird/good stuff.
― alpine static, Friday, 15 January 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
why are you googleproofing their names
― Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Friday, 15 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link
Yeah that's a very useful feature, I've found some stuff I plan to investigate.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 15 January 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
I've asked about older data before, yes. So far it hasn't been a priority for them, but with the upcoming sale and potential data-system changes I'll ask again.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 15 January 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link
I mean, I'm sure a site like furia that they don't own or make a penny of ad money from is zero priority to them, but I was just thinking maybe an intern could dig it up for shits and giggles
― ♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 January 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link
Marc is my closest P&J neighbor. We share two albums.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 15 January 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link
I don't think Dave S. is an ilxor, or at least I feel like I'd know if he was. Maybe a lurker? Idk
― gaz "puffy" coombes (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 January 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link
Just in case someone here is in charge of the pazz+jop thing, the Shopping album listed is their 2013 release, the new one is called Why Choose
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Saturday, 16 January 2016 13:18 (eight years ago) link
Let me rectify: the 2015 album is there but one critic voted for the 2013, I assume he got the title wrong
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Saturday, 16 January 2016 13:27 (eight years ago) link
Well I'm dumb, he voted for both and the 2013 was also reissued last year so... Let's pretend the last three posts never existed.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Saturday, 16 January 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link
Hey glenn, if you're still soliciting corrections: "Kime Ne - Insanlar" has the artist and track title reversed.
― seandalai, Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:40 (eight years ago) link
Thanks!
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 17 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link
so, uh, is this still happening
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
it's a reasonable question. Glenn are you on it this goround?
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link
wasn't last year's ballot mailing not done until December too?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
Yes, it's still on. I don't have anything to do with it until after voting closes, but I know ballots haven't gone out yet, so nobody has missed anything.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
cool, thanks!
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/authors/robert-christgau-6354191
CHristgau is writing for the Voice again. I wonder if he'll be involved
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
thanks! (for some reason I keep thinking the initial email comes out in november)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
Whoa! The Voice hired Xgau back?! Why wasn't this bigger news?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 2 December 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link
Last year's ballot showed up Dec. 4, so they're not running late.
― dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
I swear, every other year when I try to vote I encounter some sort of technical crap that makes it impossible, then I wind up having to re-enter everything.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
(Sorry, that sounded bratty, given everything happening right now)
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
Ballot arrived today. I'll probably submit the same top 10 I sent The Wire.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
did not expect to get a ballot from someone I know from ifmud
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link
"Welcome to the Village Voice's annual Music Critics Poll (formerly known as Pazz + Jop)"
RIP Pazz + Jop
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 3 December 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link
Why would you fuck with the name? Especially for generic ass one?
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
"NFL Annual Championship Game Between the American and National Football Conferences"
Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
what that means
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
Good for them. "Pazz and Jop" is a fucking terrible name.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whereas the hip marketing person is strutting around like 'Pazz! Jop! Zappatypow! Hoobalooba! Ramalama shakkow! Zump! Haha'
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
i agree that pazz & jop was always an awful name
― dyl, Sunday, 4 December 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
it had a shred or two of character though
who gives a fuck about the annual Music Critics Poll
― qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, if anything, now it sounds LESS interesting.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
anyway i have no idea how i'm still getting invited to participate, i haven't done any music writing in years and i could've sworn there was a point where they were like "please resubmit your credentials" or w/e, maybe not
― qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
I voted for either 2 years or maybe 3 years in the mid-00s, and then one year nobody sent me a ballot and I never bothered to find out why because I'm lazy. And now it's been a really long time since I've written anything anywhere.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link
Is there a VV contact more responsive and/or less inundated than the generic address through which the ballots are sent? Trying to get a colleague added to the mix.
― Andy K, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
Neil deMause, the Special features editor is listed on the email that was sent out but not his email
His about page just gives a form link to send messages to a general box I think
http://www.villagevoice.com/about/contact?to=6731940
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
deadline in 4 hours
― alpine static, Saturday, 24 December 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link
submitted an hour late because I suck, hope it's counted
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 24 December 2016 06:23 (seven years ago) link
I submitted late too. Nous verons.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link
perhaps it will be for the best if it isn't counted, I forgot to put swan song series on it
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 25 December 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
Heck, I forgot to *listen* to Swan Song Series. It's not every year Tanya Donelly and Kristin Hersh both release insanely long albums, and I barely got to either :(
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link