just trying to bring the lols.
― larry appleton, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:59 (eight years ago) link
keep trying
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Ha, I'd never noticed this before... I wonder if this was intentional or just a crazy coincidence? They match up pretty much exactly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQTEwE_8Kng
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link
Ehh, interesting, but I think it's just called "having a style."
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link
Very cool!
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 02:50 (eight years ago) link
That sounds good! If it were Nickelback, we would all be like "I TOLD you all their songs sound the same."
― how's life, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link
Definitely sounds like a cool self-referential thing. Way too similar in tempo, harmony, and melody to be an accident. The song "Aja" was written in 74/75 and demoed for Katy Lied, so it's not a stretch.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
are there any katy lied demos out there with aja?
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link
I have some, from who knows where.
― pplains, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
yousendit?
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
I'll lookintoit when I get home.
― pplains, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link
I'm at work right now: Are these active?
hxxp://www.guitars101.com/forums/f145/steely-dan-katy-lied-outtakes-amp-demos-1973-a-211183.html
― pplains, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link
me too. I'll check later. thanks
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link
They are very much active.
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
Thanks for the heads up.
i like don't know this band much outside of the hits but i started listening to the album "pretzel logic about 15 minutes ago, and am now 15 minutes in, and i like it a lot.
i think it might be really good.
― Treeship, Monday, 18 September 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
welcome
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 18 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
it's kind of weird though
― Treeship, Monday, 18 September 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
Sign In Stranger
― Moodles, Monday, 18 September 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
self xp, but not in a bad way. i will post more when i have something to say that is halfway informed.
― Treeship, Monday, 18 September 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
Hey TreeshipThat's Donald FagenHe don't remember the King of Snark
― nomar, Monday, 18 September 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
I feel like the only album of the initial run that isnt a good intro to the band is maybe Royal Scam. (Mine was Katy Lied)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 18 September 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
treeship if you're looking for next dan step, consider aja
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 18 September 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
Try Can't Buy a Thrill next, save Gaucho for last.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link
(because it's the weakest of their original run)
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link
Seeing as Gaucho was the first SD album I heard and it made fall in love with the band immediately, I don't think you need to worry about listening to it too much
― niels, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
treeship will love gaucho or I will eat my spats
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
Treeship, I wish I could hear these records for the first time again. Hope you dig them!!!
Pretzel Logic is a really good one to start with, right in the middle of their career & a nice dividing line between the earlier rock-oriented records and later studio muso records.
imo Aja would be the one to check out next. and then Gaucho if you dig the smooth sound... Gaucho is antiseptic, in the best way!
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
I started w/Pretzel Logic, bc according to what i was reading around the time (conventional wisdom + the RS 1992 album guide) it was their best album.
moved onto Countdown to Ecstasy from there and i think the Royal Scam was next.
the albums i came to a bit later were Can't Buy a Thrill and Katy Lied, for whatever reason. CBAT still seems like the least Dan of the Dan LPs, i mean it's a genuinely classic one, a ridiculously played and confident '70s rock album, but it's not fully instilled with the Fagen/Becker essence. Katy Lied, for some reason that one took a bit to grow on me.
i would go Countdown to Ecstasy next. Brilliant jams, some incredible singles, kind of the perfect combo of all the SD elements in one package.
― nomar, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
Countdown to Ecstasy and Gaucho are my favorites and they represent the opposite SD streams fully realized.
― gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
Pretzel Logic is an amazing entry point into The Dan because of the strangeness and stylistic diversity. In terms of next steps, here's a handy guide
If you liked the title track, Parker's Band or Barrytown the most, listen to Countdown to EcstasyIf you liked Rikki the most, listen to AjaIf you liked the creepy character studies (Monkey, Buzz, Charlie Freak) best, move onto Katy LiedIf you loved "Night By Night," check out The Royal Scamif you preferred "Any Major Dude" or "With a Gun," check out Can't Buy a Thrill
And if you liked East St. Louis Toodle-Oo the most...congrats, you're a weirdo. Check out Gaucho
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
I started with Katy Lied because duh minutemen
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
Xp Eastside Toodle-oo maybe secretly my favourite Steely Dan track but don't tell
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
so favorite you can't even remember what it's called?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
I mean no offense to East St. Louis Toodle-lovers, but picking the band's only ever instrumental and only ever cover as your favorite track is an unorthodox choice
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link
Gaucho is probably my favorite these days.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link
― gospodin simmel, Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:33 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
SO correct
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 01:10 (six years ago) link
listen to any album in any order it's all good
― Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
otm
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link
people OTM - Pretzel is really the best entry point
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 08:09 (six years ago) link
― gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:33 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link
Can't Buy a Thrill is easily as good an entry point as Pretzel Logic is, IMO.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
CBAT is a great album, but a total outlier. It's a good introduction but it's not really a roadmap
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
yeah like "Brooklyn Holds the Charmer" is a wonderful song but kind of a fake-out for other 'sentimental' SD songs
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Y'see, aside from the presence of David Palmer I don't really get that way of thinking at all. It sounds as much a Steely Dan record as any other Steely Dan record - I don't think it could be mistaken for anything else!
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
tom
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
er, otm
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
I mean yeah it's basically Palmer. thinking of other overtly musically sentimental SD songs that are similar... Any World, Dirty Work, Deacon Blues obv...
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
Palmer only sings lead on two songs, and you can hear why - as Christgau noted, he "fit in like a cheerleader at a crap game." Even on those tracks - and the one Jim Hodder sings - you can hear the way Donald would have sung them. And I wouldn't call Dirty Work or Brooklyn "sentimental."
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
Oh I guess you qualified that as "musically sentimental," though I'm not really sure what that means.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link