obvious answer, but bowie in a blink.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link
V-2 Schneider.
― Liebe ist kälter als der Todmorden (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link
I really like some of Iggy's stuff (Stooges and Bowie collaborations mostly) but for me it's clearly between Lou/Velvet and Bowie/all the people he worked with...Very hard to decide atm.
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Don't want to do it.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:09 (eight years ago) link
Don't forget it includes their bands/collaborators so Velvet Underground !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link
Probably Iggy, he causes the least indigestion (though I steer clear of a lot of his solo stuff, so maybe thats why)
― the drummer for Gaz Dad (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link
Bowie never did a car insurance advert. (Or did he?)
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link
I've tried and tried with the velvets but I don't think at this stage they'll ever click as an important band for me. I appreciate them rather than enjoy them.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link
Lou (3)Iggy (4)Bowie (5)
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/idol_pics/JMcelebs/79805957200780010PM.jpg
― marcos, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link
Bowie, no contest.
― she pnuched me in my weinre when I was asleep (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link
pretty sure he took over as the voice of chrchill the dog after vic reeves gave up the gig
― Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
One of the things they have in common for me is that I don't really care about their careers since the end of the 70s/early 80s (more than 30 years for all of them and Iggy's still going strong !).
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
oh ok, in that case, easy indeed !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
who had the best post-80s career? (i'd go with bowie based on his stuff from 2000 to now alone, but i'm sure many lou reed fans would disagree)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link
Easy one for me. Lou by a country mile.
The other two are great but Lou is the greatest.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link
Lou for me too. I would probably have rather had a conversation with either of the other two, but as far as the work it's him.
― Hang Onto Your Selfie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link
I think although I like many more of Bowie songs, some of Lou's songs touch me more, in a deeper way (mostly with VU but not only).
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that exactly.
― Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link
The head says Bowie, the heart says Lou.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link
and the one who rocks harder ? between Lou and Iggy but I'd go with Iggy for "Search & Destroy" alone (although Lou rocked hard too) !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link
Rob Thomas by miles.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link
(xp) the easiest choice of all for that question, Iggy.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:13 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He did a Pepsi ad in the 80s, and a couple of others since then.
But Lou did this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDLAM48TmJQ
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
All I really need of Bowie: Low, "Heroes", Stage, The Next Day, Blackstar.All I really need of Reed: Metal Machine Music, Rock 'n' Roll Animal, The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts.All I really need of Iggy: The Stooges, Fun House, 1970: The Complete Fun House Sessions, Raw Power, Lust for Life, The Idiot, TV Eye: 1977 Live, New Values, Soldier, Party, Blah-Blah-Blah, Instinct.
So...Bowie's the only one who's done anything I love in the last 30 years, but I still gotta vote for Iggy because Fun House might be the single greatest rock album ever, and seeing the Stooges (plus Mike Watt, but with Steve Mackay) in 2003 was genuinely life-changing.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link
There are no losers here
― Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link
hang on to yourselves!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdjF-1zcK4s
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link
well, if we're going to look for the most ridiculous/awful thing any of these guys has been involved in...
https://500daysasunder.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/screen-shot-2013-01-24-at-4-03-50-pm.png
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link
B-b-but what about some of those latter day Lou harmony duets?
― Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah, there was this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBd4SuDNsGQ
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link
god that is incredible
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
love all these guys, there's no wrong answers, but off the cuff I'm inclined to say Lou>>Bowie>>Iggy, just cuz Lou was first and is arguably the more archetypal and emotionally engaging (and ultimately kind of tragic, I think) figure
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
like Bowie and Iggy both seem to have found some measure of peace, Lou seemed tortured and bitter and cranky to the end
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link
Shakey otm
― Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
Despite all the Tai Chi master silkscreen.
yeah, lou was like the least chill zen-minded individual ever
― Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link
god the iggy i have no use for i have no for to an extent that nothing in the lou or bowie catalogs can dream of approaching. that said when bowie passed i found myself listening to the idiot over and over more than any actual bowie albums. brain says lou, heart says iggy. voting lou, maybe if iggy had played guitar for the stooges...
― balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media
xp
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
Lou seemed tortured and bitter and cranky to the end
Really?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link
otoh i was gonna say 'this is like modern lovers vs new romantics vs...' but i couldn't find an inheritor to the stooges that i felt comfortable actually comparing to the stooges
― balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link
Lou for me, but I can understand arguments for all three.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link
really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the mediaxp
― Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link
Once in a while you get shown the lightin the strangest of places if you look at right
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
best album from them : I might go with VU&Nico or VU for Lou, Stooges or Raw Power for Iggy and Ziggy or Station2Station for Bowie, I guess.Lou wins.
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
true, we should all just pay attention to dennis perrin's twitter instead
― Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
I don't really care about Lou or Iggy
― The Once-ler, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link
this thread makes me want to know more about Lou's output in the 80s.
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link
I'll give a try at "Blue Mask" and "New York"...
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link
The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link
I think what most impresses me about Fun House is that it covers all this ground -- obviously I can't know how "Down on the street" or "T.V. Eye" sounded in 1970, but they rock in a way that I feel okay describing as 'straightforward' -- whereas by the end of side B, The Stooges have brought us to the edge of sheer formless sonic chaos & left us squinting into the darkness after them -- spellbound by Iggy's charisma, the aforementioned swingin' basslines, the fiercely rudimentary drumming, we don't notice the change is upon us until it's too late.
I had originally described this pseudo-narrative progression as the album "making sense" when taken as a whole, but as I tried to elaborate on that notion, I realized that I mean something closer to the opposite: The album doesn't make any sense, at least none that I can express in words. But it produces effects, powerful effects, effects that I seek in vain from other rock music, finding only faint traces, reflections and echoes that point me right back to Fun House. Faced with this reality, I have to posit some higher, invisible metaphysical realm of "art", a plane of existence on which, thanks to some hidden numerological craziness, Fun House would, in fact, make sense; because my brain simply can't admit that, in a record whose ecstasy stirs me in the deepest regions of my soul, there might be nothing speaking through the music except brutal nihilism & meaningless contingency.
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
(btw the failed mysticism of my last post is in no way a repudiation of meticulousness, or an assertion that "beginner's luck" had anything to do with it -- rather, I'm denying that craftmanship in the recording process, or any other intentional factor, can sufficiently account for the powerful aura which eventually settled over the finished product)
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
The true answer is Jagger but yeah, he's a notch above. It's obviously Lou otherwise. Let's not get carried away with Bowie love. Nothing he did is in the same realm as the VU. Iggy is an afterthought, I'd go Rotten before Iggy.
And we have a new Wrongest Opinion champion for this thread. Congratulations.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Thanks! Who did I steal the title from?
― simmel, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Tuomas
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
But yeah, I stand behind it. What part is wrong? Fun House is great but I'm not sure if it's because of Iggy. Nevermind the Bollocks is godly because of Rotten no doubt. Bowie is impressive/interesting but not often truly great. Surely not on the level of songwriting that is Reed's VU run. It goes Sister Ray > Station to Station >>> Dirt
― simmel, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah disagree w/ everything in that post except iggy vs. rotten (i'll take metal box/second edition over anything iggy did after funhouse).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
Sister Ray > Station to Station >>> Dirt― simmel, Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:56 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link
Sister Ray is super overrated. I imagine many garage bands in the 60s were capable bashing out 30-minute drone jams. They just didn't get put to tape.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
Thurston Moore has said in an interview or essay somewhere that he's more a Raw Power guy than a Funhouse guy. It was apparently the first Iggy he heard, being sold by the Mick Rock cover photo.
Hey, it's my old mate Thurston! RP was the first Stooges album I heard, in fact it was years before I heard Funhouse, by which time I'd already heard the first album and several Iggy solo albums, LOL the olden days.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link
We have a possible new contender for wrongest statement of 2016. Like just anyone could pull off the sounds Reed and Cale are producing on this track!
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
Or Tucker. Or Morrison.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
The VU would be my #1 contender for that "things you admire but don't like" thread, if I could say I admired them. The best I can offer is that I recognize and concede the breadth of their influence, while believing that literally everything that's come in their wake, down to the most half-assed Jesus & Mary Chain B-side, is better than their own work.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
^^^newer contender for wrongest statement of 2016
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
http://static.rogerebert.com/redactor_assets/pictures/far-flung-correspondents/he-coulda-been-a-contender/on-the-waterfront-charley-head-rest.jpg
― Poxy's Dilemma (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
otm
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
Kind of my introduction to all three way back when...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvWoEiaEqU
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
loved that doc, taped all 10 episodes and watched them over and over again. That one and the funk one were totally revelatory to me.
― intheblanks, Friday, 29 January 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
Voting for Bowie - I return to his music every 8-10 years and always discover something new. My VU/Lou Reed phase was kind of a one shot in college. I still haven't heard a lot of Iggy's solo albums.
― Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:43 (eight years ago) link
Also, I've been thinking a best Bowie guitarist poll would be fun. Trying to think of them all: Ronson, Slick, Fripp, Alomar, Frampton, Gabrels, SRV, Belew, Nile Rogers, Bowie himself... who else?
― Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link
Sorry - I meant to put this on the Bowie thread.
Wow, that "Soul Man" video with Lou/Sam Moore was something else. I turned it off when the old granny was singing with the black mic.
― van smack, Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link
Bowie - Iggy --- Lou
― van smack, Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:26 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 7 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
The capper is surely Reed’s audible contempt as he consigns the consensus world’s best rock and roll band to idiot fodder: “I never liked the Beatles. ... I thought they were garbage. If you say, ‘Who did you like?’ I liked nobody.”
Lou wins.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 February 2016 12:44 (eight years ago) link
You should have quoted the paragraph above as well.
― The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 February 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link
Saw this in the window of a store yesterday, almost bought it:http://www.nostalgicimages.com/store/images/products/large_1097_406.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Balls.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link
Lol wat
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link
If only Iggy was dead.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link
Bite yr tongue
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link
ha ha well we can put this one to bed
― Darin, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link
Nonsense
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link
i didn't vote because i couldn't decide
― the late great, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link
I'm is correct once again
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link
Lol stupid phone lol
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link
ILM is correct
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link
You fools! Iggy is the main man.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 05:51 (eight years ago) link
Anyhoo poll reminded me of this recently released recording of Bowie doing impersonations of several musicians: Bolan, Lou and Iggy among them. His Lou and Iggy are spot on:
http://youtu.be/NrtXFTw2ico
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 06:04 (eight years ago) link
69...
― Pentenema Karten, Monday, 8 February 2016 06:46 (eight years ago) link
xxxposts
I didn't vote either !I guess I should have voted Lou.Maybe the poll was a bit biased because of the timing regarding Bowie but I suppose he has a broader appeal, anyway.
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 09:32 (eight years ago) link
It does say http://www.bowiegoldenyears.com/graphics/mainman125.gif
Now, if it was "The Man"...
― Mark G, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link
Yeah this poll should have been done after Lou died.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 February 2016 11:51 (eight years ago) link
Any artist who disrespects another artist by calling their music crap is a complete asshole, I picked up Lou Reed when I was a driving a cab in 1973, told him I was a big fan and he was an incredible nasty prick. Then gave a 10 cent tip, which I threw at him and hit him in the back of his head. he just kept walking awayLike · Reply · 13 · Yesterday at 08:37
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LOL, Lou wins again.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 12:48 (eight years ago) link
ahah. classic !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link
Wait, where is that from?
― The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link
Facebook.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
Thought you told me you didn't do
― The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link