Who's the Main Man : Bowie, Iggy or Lou ?

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& tbh i love the overall sound of New York, just nicely recorded, crisp sounds, doesn't sound terribly dated. that eighth grader had skillz.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Still wish he had gone back to get his GED

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

The Blue Mask and LH bombed. Wonder if they would have performed better at the height of boomer revivalism several years later.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link

he was never exactly a steady hitmaker! 'dirty blvd' benefited alot from the emergence of modern rock radio

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Always thought it was deeply weird that that's Dion singing backup on Dirty Blvd, but in the video that part is lip-synced by an old black guy (iirc)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link

we should all just pay attention to dennis perrin's twitter instead

his 'dressing up as Bowie in high school' blog post was pretty good.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

is there an album that has all three together? feels like as much as they all collaborated there should be....

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Re-run the thread when Iggy pops his cloggs as 4th option.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

they're all only a couple degrees removed from one another (thx to Cale and Eno), but no

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

"The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:45 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

"Legendary Hearts" is hell of underrated, ha I ignored it for a long time cuz of the dumb album cover

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

and well duh Bowie worked w both obviously

xxp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

is there an album that has all three together? feels like as much as they all collaborated there should be....

I don't think there's an album but maybe a song ?

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

or at least a session/demo/outtake whatever.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

12" version of 'hands across america' maybe

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

i could be wrong, but i don't think Lou really liked Iggy -- did they become buddies in the latter days?

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

"The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:45 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

"Legendary Hearts" is hell of underrated, ha I ignored it for a long time cuz of the dumb album cover


Yes, LH my favorite from that period. Neither too gut-wrenching nor too regular guy Lou.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

I've never read about Lou and Iggy interacting tbh. I can imagine Lou feeling threatened

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

might just be thinking of Lou dissing Iggy in that Lester Bangs article -- "sweet, but stupid" or something like that.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

xxp I think yr right, I think Iggy liked Lou, but Lou...I mean who knows

Also, I thought it was interesting in that Iggy interivew when Bowie died he was very complimentary but also made it sound like they hadn't spoken in yrs & yrs

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Malkmus's vote, btw: http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/74044

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Anyway, this poll...head says Lou, heart says Ig, for me at least

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link

"sweet, but stupid" or something like that.

of course if you took this as an insult Lou would probably come back with "what's wrong with stupid? I love stupid"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link

My cursory Bowie bio reading this past week led me to believe that Iggy was perhaps Bowie's best rock star friend, but he still considered people like George Underwood his only true friends. Also seem to recall reading about some, um, cat fight between David and Lou.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

iirc Lou wasn't all that grateful about Bowie saving his career in 1972

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link

Lou had the best music video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiyX70ZqsVQ

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Lou guitarist Chuck Hammer:

As a guitarist in the Lou Reed band at that time, I was actually sitting next to both David and Lou at dinner when this exchange took pace, I can tell you exactly what transpired verbally.

‘Lou had been discussing details regarding his upcoming new album- as yet un-recorded. Lou asked David if he would be interested in producing the record and David replied yes – but only upon the condition that Lou would stop drinking and clean up his act. And upon that reply, the aforementioned chaos ensued.

‘It should be noted that this verbal bantering also continued into the night back at the hotel -With Bowie in the hallway demanding that Reed “come out and fight like a man” Eventually it all quieted down as Lou never reappeared to continue the fight, and was most likely already fast asleep.’

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah bowie and reed seemed to patch things up later in life -- think i read they socialized pretty regularly in the 2000s since both were NYC residents?
hard to imagine bowie telling Lou to "fight like a man" but who knows

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

Bowie would know.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Lou had the best music video:

I assume this is a mistake, since that is not the Original Wrapper video

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

woah puppet Lou is freaking me out

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link

Starman says it was perhaps his first fight "since being clocked in the eye by George Underwood."
(Xp)

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link

I haven't that video in yrs and just the memory of puppet Lou is going make me not be able to sleep tonight

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

think i read that Lou's mother really hated that video, which is understandable.
xp a bowie-produced Lou Reed record in 1980 would've been ... interesting.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

"Legendary Hearts" is hell of underrated, ha I ignored it for a long time cuz of the dumb album cover

Meanwhile The Blue Mask could easily be mistaken for a cheapo comp, as it's just the Transformer cover photo tinted blue...

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Lol, right

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link

did Bowie get the idea of uglifying The Next Day sleeve from Lou?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Ha, I just had that thought myself...

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

Still think the idea that David borrowed Aladdin Sane's lighting bolt from Elvis's TCB jewelry is undercirculated.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

I mean it was three years before the King bought the Lisa Marie and painted it on the tail fin.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

surely Captain Marvel is the real source there

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link

Right! Elvis was way into Captain Marvel.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

"his last album was a grim, rage-filled contrarian "fuck you" move (ie, standard operating Lou procedure) so yeah"

But.... Junior Dad?

Mule, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

I can never choose between these guys. They're just the best thing in Music.

Mule, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

The head says Bowie, the heart says Lou.
the crotch definitely says Iggy though.
still, went with the heart.

campreverb, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Music: Bowie >>> Lou > Iggy
Interesting-ness of 70s lifestyle: Lou > Iggy > Bowie
Practical approach to music: Iggy > Bowie > Lou
Intellectual approach to music: Lou > Bowie > Iggy
Who would be the best company in a bar: Iggy > Bowie >>> Lou

bored at work (snoball), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Collaborators: Bowie >>> Iggy > Lou (not counting Bowie as a Lou or Iggy collaborator)

bored at work (snoball), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ioRWlG9PBQ

always feel like this is the soundtrack to the OP photo

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

write-in for Entwistle.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

According to The Complete David Bowie (quoting Bowie himself I think) the inspiration was more prosaic

http://www.covington.coop/images/voltagesignsmall.jpg

Number None, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link

write-in for Entwistle.

― by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:46 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pretty sure that's Tony DeFries behind them.

Though Entwistle did play on Susanna Hoffs' cover of "Boys Keep Swinging," so it's all a rich tapestry.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link


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