You also misspelled "Fun House" in that last sentence.
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
誤訳侮辱 otm on all points. Just want to add that I always felt the "logical" follow-up to Fun House would've been something that built on/extended what they were doing on "L.A. Blues" (but that's just wild fantasy speculation on my part).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
y'all gonna hate me for this but I'm convinced the logical follow-up to Fun House is Joy Division (live, not in-studio)
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
ha, right. playing much better on Fun House. I don't think anybody could reasonably argue the opposite unless they were on some Lester Bangs "the best playing is the sloppiest" thing or something.
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
I always felt the "logical" follow-up to Fun House would've been something that built on/extended what they were doing on "L.A. Blues" (but that's just wild fantasy speculation on my part).
Just a side note to mention that if this is what you're looking for, check out Spain Is The Place, an album featuring Ricardo Tejero on alto sax, Colin Webster on tenor and baritone saxes, and Marco Serrato and Borja Diaz of Orthodox on bass and drums. It's coming out soon on Raw Tonk Records, but there's a track on Soundcloud already:
https://soundcloud.com/rawtonkrecords/tejerowebsterserratodiaz-el-gordillo
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link
The Fun House box is fascinating for a number of reasons, chief among them how meticulous they were in their approach. On one false start (I think it's a take of "Loose"), Iggy stops everyone and says, "I forgot to say 'hey!' at the beginning!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link
xp A few Takayanagi records have already scratched that itch for me, but that sounds good.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link
The true answer is Jagger but yeah, he's a notch above. It's obviously Lou otherwise. Let's not get carried away with Bowie love. Nothing he did is in the same realm as the VU. Iggy is an afterthought, I'd go Rotten before Iggy.
― simmel, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link
I think what most impresses me about Fun House is that it covers all this ground -- obviously I can't know how "Down on the street" or "T.V. Eye" sounded in 1970, but they rock in a way that I feel okay describing as 'straightforward' -- whereas by the end of side B, The Stooges have brought us to the edge of sheer formless sonic chaos & left us squinting into the darkness after them -- spellbound by Iggy's charisma, the aforementioned swingin' basslines, the fiercely rudimentary drumming, we don't notice the change is upon us until it's too late.
I had originally described this pseudo-narrative progression as the album "making sense" when taken as a whole, but as I tried to elaborate on that notion, I realized that I mean something closer to the opposite: The album doesn't make any sense, at least none that I can express in words. But it produces effects, powerful effects, effects that I seek in vain from other rock music, finding only faint traces, reflections and echoes that point me right back to Fun House. Faced with this reality, I have to posit some higher, invisible metaphysical realm of "art", a plane of existence on which, thanks to some hidden numerological craziness, Fun House would, in fact, make sense; because my brain simply can't admit that, in a record whose ecstasy stirs me in the deepest regions of my soul, there might be nothing speaking through the music except brutal nihilism & meaningless contingency.
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
(btw the failed mysticism of my last post is in no way a repudiation of meticulousness, or an assertion that "beginner's luck" had anything to do with it -- rather, I'm denying that craftmanship in the recording process, or any other intentional factor, can sufficiently account for the powerful aura which eventually settled over the finished product)
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
And we have a new Wrongest Opinion champion for this thread. Congratulations.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Thanks! Who did I steal the title from?
― simmel, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Tuomas
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
But yeah, I stand behind it. What part is wrong? Fun House is great but I'm not sure if it's because of Iggy. Nevermind the Bollocks is godly because of Rotten no doubt. Bowie is impressive/interesting but not often truly great. Surely not on the level of songwriting that is Reed's VU run. It goes Sister Ray > Station to Station >>> Dirt
― simmel, Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah disagree w/ everything in that post except iggy vs. rotten (i'll take metal box/second edition over anything iggy did after funhouse).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
Sister Ray > Station to Station >>> Dirt― simmel, Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:56 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post
― regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link
Sister Ray is super overrated. I imagine many garage bands in the 60s were capable bashing out 30-minute drone jams. They just didn't get put to tape.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
Thurston Moore has said in an interview or essay somewhere that he's more a Raw Power guy than a Funhouse guy. It was apparently the first Iggy he heard, being sold by the Mick Rock cover photo.
Hey, it's my old mate Thurston! RP was the first Stooges album I heard, in fact it was years before I heard Funhouse, by which time I'd already heard the first album and several Iggy solo albums, LOL the olden days.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link
We have a possible new contender for wrongest statement of 2016. Like just anyone could pull off the sounds Reed and Cale are producing on this track!
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
Or Tucker. Or Morrison.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
The VU would be my #1 contender for that "things you admire but don't like" thread, if I could say I admired them. The best I can offer is that I recognize and concede the breadth of their influence, while believing that literally everything that's come in their wake, down to the most half-assed Jesus & Mary Chain B-side, is better than their own work.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
^^^newer contender for wrongest statement of 2016
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
http://static.rogerebert.com/redactor_assets/pictures/far-flung-correspondents/he-coulda-been-a-contender/on-the-waterfront-charley-head-rest.jpg
― Poxy's Dilemma (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
otm
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
Kind of my introduction to all three way back when...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvWoEiaEqU
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
loved that doc, taped all 10 episodes and watched them over and over again. That one and the funk one were totally revelatory to me.
― intheblanks, Friday, 29 January 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
Voting for Bowie - I return to his music every 8-10 years and always discover something new. My VU/Lou Reed phase was kind of a one shot in college. I still haven't heard a lot of Iggy's solo albums.
― Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:43 (eight years ago) link
Also, I've been thinking a best Bowie guitarist poll would be fun. Trying to think of them all: Ronson, Slick, Fripp, Alomar, Frampton, Gabrels, SRV, Belew, Nile Rogers, Bowie himself... who else?
― Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link
Sorry - I meant to put this on the Bowie thread.
Wow, that "Soul Man" video with Lou/Sam Moore was something else. I turned it off when the old granny was singing with the black mic.
― van smack, Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link
Bowie - Iggy --- Lou
― van smack, Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:26 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 7 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
The capper is surely Reed’s audible contempt as he consigns the consensus world’s best rock and roll band to idiot fodder: “I never liked the Beatles. ... I thought they were garbage. If you say, ‘Who did you like?’ I liked nobody.”
Lou wins.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 February 2016 12:44 (eight years ago) link
You should have quoted the paragraph above as well.
― The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 February 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link
Saw this in the window of a store yesterday, almost bought it:http://www.nostalgicimages.com/store/images/products/large_1097_406.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Balls.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link
Lol wat
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link
If only Iggy was dead.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link
Bite yr tongue
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link
ha ha well we can put this one to bed
― Darin, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link
Nonsense
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link
i didn't vote because i couldn't decide
― the late great, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link
I'm is correct once again
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link
Lol stupid phone lol
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link
ILM is correct
― Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link
You fools! Iggy is the main man.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 05:51 (eight years ago) link
Anyhoo poll reminded me of this recently released recording of Bowie doing impersonations of several musicians: Bolan, Lou and Iggy among them. His Lou and Iggy are spot on:
http://youtu.be/NrtXFTw2ico
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 06:04 (eight years ago) link
69...
― Pentenema Karten, Monday, 8 February 2016 06:46 (eight years ago) link