Teenage Fanclub expressed this perfectly in an NME singles of the year panel in about 1996, re: Ocean Colour Scene. "They're too talented; they try to mimic something and they're so good they sound exactly like it, but it's when you try and fail that you make something new and interesting." Or summat to that effect.― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:49 PM (32 minutes ago)
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:49 PM (32 minutes ago)
― Glissendorfin' Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
Teenage Fanclub have never successfully replicated the sound of Big Star, The Byrds, Dinosaur Jr etc, they've always ended up sounding like themselves, even when they stole bits from others' songs
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:39 (eight years ago) link
One might be tempted to say the same about Ocean Colour Scene... if one could remember what they sounded like.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link
haha ouch!
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link
the local indie theater showed the ziggy stardust film the other night as a tribute and i went. just an amazing experience, great sound, with a totally packed theater cheering and clapping after every song. found myself tearing up a couple times. really did feel like everyone was somehow willing it to be the bowie concert experience we can't ever have again.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 February 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link
that sounds so great
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2016 03:15 (eight years ago) link
Yup.
Had no idea backing vocalist Robin Clark and Carlos Alomar were a couple. She has some charming photos from Young American sessions posted on her Twitter feed. Got me a wee bit choked up again for some reason.
― Glissendorfin' Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 February 2016 05:36 (eight years ago) link
oh no way, that's so sweet
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2016 05:37 (eight years ago) link
so
hi :/
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 February 2016 05:38 (eight years ago) link
keep coming back to the laughing gnome, this cover from the buxton thing is great
https://soundcloud.com/sweeping-the-nation/scott-walker-the-laughing
― niels, Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
So funny that the Laughing Gnome has become sort of this running Bowie joke.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
Bowie in on it too!
https://youtu.be/-0nn-35Tt-Y
― niels, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link
ILM's collective blood boils http://pitchfork.com/news/63321-listen-to-amanda-palmer-and-jherek-bischoffs-david-bowie-covers-ep-featuring-neil-gaiman-john-cameron-mitchell-anna-calvi/
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
we could have pre-covered that one if they had warned us...
hey btw isn't it kind of interesting how Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate sounds real bowie-esque?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFYOHrwi-W8
― niels, Friday, 5 February 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link
His singing on A Reality Tour is pretty great throughout isn't it? Listening to the line album for the first time rn
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 5 February 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link
Live album
On a similar note, I was surprised Tony Visconti married May Pang (Lennon's lost weekend GF) AND she's one of the dancers in Bowie's Fashion video.
― Darin, Friday, 5 February 2016 16:27 (eight years ago) link
Hmm, from Mary Hopkin to May Pang!
― Mark G, Friday, 5 February 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
― Darin, Friday, February 5, 2016 11:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah that blows my mind, they had a couple kids, too.
― flappy bird, Friday, 5 February 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 5 February 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
With that bgd singer he kissed by the Berlin Wall in between.
He trots that story out in literally every interview about the making of "Heroes." But I suppose I would, too...
― Davey D, Friday, 5 February 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link
i know i'm late to the game, but yes, the five years doc is really good.
but man, robert fripp is annoying as hell. he does that thing where he asks a leading question to himself, stares at you inquisitively for 5 seconds or so, his eyebrows slowly rising to acknowledge what he imagines is the viewer's dawning realization of his point, mercifully ending with the spoken point which was already self-evident to anyone paying attention. everything he says is a version of that game, so it's nice that he's only featured in the doc maybe 3-4 times.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 February 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link
And when he refers to his own work as "very out"... he's like a strange smug 'do you see' gnome stuck in a 70s timewarp.
― ledge, Friday, 5 February 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link
Aw c'mon, Fripp is hilarious.
― Davey D, Friday, 5 February 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link
in bed, not in this film
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 February 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link
Fripp is an odd duck and I noted the tone of that comment as well. But you shouldn't let it obscure his underlying point: Bowie allowed his players to play things that no other star of his magnitude would – and was comfortable bringing avant garde performers to light that might otherwise have toiled in obscurity.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
Fripp's sister has had a horrifying influence on his manner of speaking publicly, but he's still an interesting guy. And still the the country lounge jazz guitarist he started as, occasionally amazed at what he's gotten away with over the years.
― Three Word Username, Saturday, 6 February 2016 08:58 (eight years ago) link
fripp was hilarious in that doc xD
― niels, Saturday, 6 February 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link
Fripp also often refers to himself as Fripp, which is very funny, too. But yes, he does have a point. Remember, by the late '70s King Crimson had been disbanded for several years, and he was mostly working as this peripatetic session man dipping his toes in punk and new wave: Talking Heads, Peter Gabriel, Blondie, Roches, that Daryl Hall record. But Bowie was a huge superstar, filling arenas, so the idea of letting him cut loose on stuff like "Fashion" is pretty cool, though yeah, also a tad disingenuous on Fripp's part to claim it as particularly outre, given he was all over "Heroes" (the album and song) already.
Speaking of which, I just learned this existed:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABEqQKlWLC0Featuring Fripp playing off-stage.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 February 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link
Fripp also often refers to himself as Fripp, which is very funny, too.
I don't think he's done the "this Fripp" thing in 30 years. Still uses the 3rd person, but usually referring to himself as the Old Goat or RHVL (ruthless heartless venal leader or something like that). It's interesting that he pretty much stopped updating his online diary about the time the current KC revival got going -- I hope he's channeling that writing time into something that sees print someday.
― if thou gaz long into the coombs, the coombs will also gaz into thee (WilliamC), Saturday, 6 February 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link
I think his point tho is that "Fashion" represents a particularly outre performance on a single. Most of his particularly angular work on "Heroes" is on album cuts like "Beauty and the Beast" and "Blackout" which weren't going to be on anybody's idea of Top 40 radio.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 6 February 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link
xpost oof, Harry unsure about if/how to dial down her dryness. Not a good choice.
― Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 6 February 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
Beauty and the Beast was a single. Sense of Doubt on the B-side, I think. Played it to death on my brother's stereo.
― Michael Jones, Saturday, 6 February 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
sounds like a pretty killer 7" too
― niels, Saturday, 6 February 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link
apologies if this has been posted before but this is so good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF1Y7BzWbUs
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 February 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link
Coldplay is totally going to cover Bowie at halftime, aren't they?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link
with Kanye as surprise guest prob
― Number None, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link
Shit I wish Beyonce wld
― albvivertine, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:56 (eight years ago) link
http://www.hitfix.com/news/heres-a-list-of-everything-david-bowie-turned-down-from-american-idol-to-james-bond?ModPagespeed=noscript
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link
So we managed to have Bowie as the theme for last night's record club and still only listen to one Bowie album. And that one's only been out a month.
We did get to listen to Iggy's The Idiot, though, which I've wanted to hear for a while, and which is basically a Bowie in Berlin album, obviously. But Tom chose Here Come The Warm Jets which has nothing to do with Bowie other than it being by Brian Eno (but from before they even met, I think?).
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:47 (eight years ago) link
Perhaps you drifted into the parallel universe of the film Velvet Goldmine, where there is no Bowie music, but there is Roxy and Eno, the first song heard being "Needle In The Camel's Eye," iirc.
― The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:33 (eight years ago) link
Perhaps there are more important things to worry about.
― yugi ex, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:54 (eight years ago) link
No doubt. Please to enlighten as to what they are
― The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
"The Idiot" is wonderful, been listening to that a lot over the past few weeks.
"Last night I was down in the lab, hanging with Dracula and his crew!"
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link
^pure gold
― Davey D, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
Beauty Pill did an excellent cover of "Jump They Say" a few years ago, and put it online for a few hours today: https://octave.is/beautypill/jump-they-say
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link
i was just coming to post that, omg
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link
From his son.
https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/status/697489975261016064
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link
awww
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
;_; but also <3
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link