Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

'a smart, principled and numerously deprivileged individual'

are you sure you're not describing an articulate rapper here?

to quote an inarticulate rapper, what you lookin at you lit-tul rich boy?

flopson vm otm itt

xp

this is war

forks is good people as far as I'm concerned, as is flopson, so i would hate for my thinking out loud - and quite possibly being wrong - about different ways of contextualizing experiences of music to be seen as being disrespectful, never mind offensive.

i have a minor niggle about taking from a conversation in one place and repurposing some of it in another. it's probably more of an intellowank niggle than a genuine sense of wrong-doing, but i felt more honest sharing it than saying nothing

spotify is awesome btw everyone should use spotify this is my official endorsement of spotify

(my apologies for not knowing about the name change. also, what everyone else said about glenn's and forks's contributions to the board and the music business.)

NV- I'm sure there was nothing wrong with ur post itt + in general love the intellowank, just felt oddly roused by this CF out of a sense that forks is at times unduly bullied on the board for being nothing but an earnest lover of music and the rank stench of Matt's argument and felt I had to draw a line in the sand

mattresslessness IS the shit poster he and many of his friends accuse me of being -- y'all are just less suspicious of his politics. In your heart you know I'm right

that would suggest 'are you cool with forks' poll with the options 'forks is a top lad' 'loves his tunes does forks' and 'yes'
would vote yes :)

all the "Spotify is evil!" stuff is fucking infantile imo

I work in the music business and the hundredth of a penny I get from a Spotify spin is used to feed two children so anybody who thinks their take is somehow more artists-needs than mine can go cut bait, the "well it's a bad deal so I'm not supporting it" is exactly the "I hate the major labels so I download for free but if a better system came along I'd pay the artist" garbage

flopson massively OTM in short, thank you for your righteous posts

Thanks to this thread, I've discovered a bunch of cool playlists that forks has curated. Appreciate the tip, mattress!

Poll Closing Date: Sunday, February 28, 2016 7:00 PM (in 3 weeks)

is it possible to get an extension on this?!!?!

omg just saw this thread. anyone that would have a problem with forks nerding out and making these playlist is totally insane . I have to admit that i'm really surprised by this shit and that this thread wasn't just locked.

I'm still trying to figure out how he does it. Seems nearly impossible to keep up but I'll enjoy it while it lasts

this is some silly shit

i know, february 28th is less than a month away, the deadline is on a sunday night (traditionally my time for hanging out), and i'm really worried there could be some confusion with the leap year factor. March 28th is surely safer?!?!

I voted "not" by accident because I didn't understand the question

lol you all are ridiculous

one thing to keep in mind is that it's very easy to ask for permission on ILX

i mean if you want to "take the temperature" you just need to start a quick little poll thread and pop the question. (helps to have a reasonable deadline though...)

I've been sleeping on Spotify but I think this thread has finally convinced me to give it a whirl, if only to check out some of forks' playlists.

(Hope it was okay to post that without permission.)

well! her comes ol' forks!

good ol' forks ... yes, sir!

good ol' forks ...

How we hate him.

Oh, good forks
How we hate him!
How we hate him!
Our dear old good forks

burn this guy forks

Pitchforks --- offa this website!

You can't burn a fork.

You can't burn a fish, but you can tuna fork.

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i think it's always worth considering what matt p says as he is a smart, principled and numerously deprivileged individual - so while i am on forks' side here, and am grateful for his enormous effort in helping to expand our engagement with music, i wouldn't simply silence the threadstarter - forks himself has engaged with him, so i don't see why the rest of us shouldn't

― ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago)

He's also one of the biggest bullies on ilx, and this thread does nothing to dispel that reputation. I did try to engage with the question on an honest basis at the beginning of this thread, trying to work out if there was something that I'd missed, until it transpired that the objection was actually "I don't like the way you do it you should do more work until you do it the way I like it".

such mean posts on this thread

Well, it's an important subject that stirs up deep emotions. It can hardly be helped.

I hope that was sarcasm.

It started out silly then got a lil sillier then it started to go too far back the other way and then waaaay too much the other way somewhere about 2pm Dublin time forks was canonised and we shall not look for his like on the mortal plane again as of 3.40ish matt was to be tarred and feathered we expect that by 6pm someone will have realised that ilm is the pits and that this non issue didn't really matter and it will all have died down by dinner (carrot and celeriac soup)

Good thread tho.

Will live long in the memory.

somewhere about 2pm Dublin time forks was canonised and we shall not look for his like on the mortal plane again

lol, otm.

forks, how much money are you getting from Goldman Sachs?

I'm cool with forks' work, and I'd be cool with anybody else doing similar work in any other listening format. I can understand the idea of objecting to people posting links to non-artist-authorized, non-royalty-paying versions of the music people are discussing. Spotify links are, by nature, artist-authorized and royalty-paying. YouTube and Soundcloud links are sometimes authorized and paying, and sometimes not. So if you're posting YouTube links and objecting to Spotify links, I think you might be misunderstanding how one or both of these systems operate.

I don't think streaming is bad for music. My opinion on this topic is not a result of my working (now) at Spotify, but the fact that I continue to work at Spotify is a result of my opinion that doing so is pro-music not anti-music. And while my opinion on this topic has no more or less moral weight than anybody else's, it is at least based on more knowledge about how streaming works than the average person who doesn't work for a streaming service or a distributor or label.

As others have pointed out, I have been on ILM for a long time. I'm not here as a Spotify sales rep, and nobody at Spotify tells me what to say or not say here. I participate in the Spotify-specific thread because a) it's interesting to me, and b) I sometimes can add actual information to discussions that would otherwise be purely speculative or actively misinformed, and c) Spotify is not an anonymous borg, it's a relatively small set of actual humans doing actual things, and it seems like in general we're all better off if people who work at companies continue acting like people.

For me, personally, ILM ranges cheerfully from incredibly useful to bafflingly toxic. Personally, I wish everybody used real names and there were no polls and nobody ever tried to talk somebody else out of loving something they love. But this set includes not using real names, and polls, and somehow even trying to talk people out of loving things they love.

here here

or hear hear even

<3 flopson putting everything on blast

peace to forks a great dude

never ban glenn

Nobody's really suggesting Glenn is banned

Someone did! Also someone made the joke 'glenn banzig', which I feel should have got more applause. Also someone said "we wouldn't stand for it if other companies had representatives here" (or something along those lines)... but we do. We have people who work for G4wker, V1ce, P1tchfork (not sure why I'm googleproofing but let's go with it). We have people who talk about their work and the different perspectives it gives them all the time.

I don't even use my real name at work.

But my playlists are impeccable.

Of course it's fine for forks to do that. This is ridiculous.